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Post by guitarman1 on Oct 31, 2005 12:03:17 GMT -7
I have a Maz 1x12 combo. In order to run a 1x12 cab while simultaneously using the combo's internal 12, do I have to use a "Y" cable?
I tried just plugging in an 8 ohm cab into the 8 ohm output while running the internal 16 ohm speaker from the 16 ohm out, but found that it reduced my overall volume level dramatically.
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Post by rcrecelius on Oct 31, 2005 13:22:09 GMT -7
Ive never done it but Im pretty sure you have to run a Y cable
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Post by m1911 on Nov 1, 2005 3:26:02 GMT -7
Yes....simply use a Y Cable and then plug into the 4 ohm hole.
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Post by jharris on Feb 8, 2006 16:26:09 GMT -7
Can anyone point me to a URL to buy the proper Y Cable?
It a little confusing with all the choices, and I know you want a speaker cable not an instrument cable.
thanks in advance Jesse
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 8, 2006 17:38:48 GMT -7
Reverend Guitars sells a nice one cheap. You don't need one if your extension cab has a parallel jack on the back. But the speakers both need to be the same impedance.
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 10, 2006 6:35:10 GMT -7
Reverend
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Post by jharris on Feb 10, 2006 12:02:28 GMT -7
Ha nice Blazing Saddles reference,
I looked on the Reverend site and didnt see one for sale, anyone have another source?
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 10, 2006 12:21:09 GMT -7
I just checked Reverend and they were gone. I swear they were on there last week. I don't know who to recommend now.
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Post by jharris on Feb 10, 2006 14:35:26 GMT -7
billyguitar johnson is right!!!
I say we stay and fight it out.
anyone have any idea of what I would buy if I went to a radio shack?
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Post by jwr on Feb 10, 2006 14:50:46 GMT -7
Make your own. Check out this web site: greatcables.us They are friends of friends of mine. I've used there speaker cable, it's THE butchest cable I've seen. I believe it's double stranded as well as there star quad guitar cables which are really nice as well. You could build your own cheap.
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 10, 2006 15:11:50 GMT -7
too bad Reverand was a great one
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Post by guitarman1 on Feb 12, 2006 10:43:06 GMT -7
billyguitar johnson is right!!! I say we stay and fight it out. anyone have any idea of what I would buy if I went to a radio shack? I've been using a Radio Shack $5.00 solid adapter with good results. It has 2 female 1/4" plugs going to 1 male 1/4" plug.
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Feb 12, 2006 13:42:21 GMT -7
Question, since we are on this topic... I have a speaker cable from another amp (tweed) that is a neg/ pos speaker clip on one end and a 1/4' on the other.... why couldn't you simply replug the internal combo's speakers from the 8 ohm jack to the 4 ohm jack on the amp..... then run one end of the cable ( w/ speaker clips) from the extra clips on the internal speakers ( that are an 8 ohm load), with the other end of the cable ( w/ 1/4") run to the ext speaker cab ( which is 8 ohms) seems like this would work... you'd just be running them in parallel and I've already got this Cable..... seems like it would work if you had a 1x12 combo and a 1x12 ext cab both @ 8 ohms..... almost run as if it were a 2X12 cab?? I've got a 2x10 ( 8ohm's) and a 1X12 ( also 8 ohm's)...was thinkin I could do that with them, even with the 3 speakers instead of just 2 ( 12" speakers)?? maybe I would have a problem doing this because of the uneven # of speakers???
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Post by jharris on Feb 21, 2006 17:15:28 GMT -7
Went to 3 radio shacks, no luck.
This is crazy.
I buy a nearly 2 thousand dollar amp and not only does it not have an ext speaker out, not one person on this entire board can give me a URL where I can buy the part?
Is a speaker Y cable that exotic? and if so, and if the good Doctor doesnt want to put an ext speaker out, then perhaps he could sell the proper cable, or at least a resource for someone to aquire the part.
again, any help much appreciated.
Jesse
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Post by Bill on Feb 21, 2006 17:32:41 GMT -7
Went to 3 radio shacks, no luck. This is crazy. I buy a nearly 2 thousand dollar amp and not only does it not have an ext speaker out, not one person on this entire board can give me a URL where I can buy the part? Is a speaker Y cable that exotic? and if so, and if the good Doctor doesnt want to put an ext speaker out, then perhaps he could sell the proper cable, or at least a resource for someone to aquire the part. again, any help much appreciated. Jesse I've got one, works fine. The first Radio Shack I went in had one on the wall. This is the part: Radio Shack
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Post by jharris on Feb 21, 2006 19:39:56 GMT -7
and then you use a 1/4 inch to RCA adaptor?
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Post by jzguitar on Feb 21, 2006 20:13:11 GMT -7
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Post by Curt on Feb 21, 2006 20:20:58 GMT -7
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Post by jharris on Feb 21, 2006 20:37:25 GMT -7
ok, I'll take that lump, not sure you needed to yell though.....
I be chillin.
A headphone splitter, ok, well I guess. I didnt have any idea to search for that.
ya I tried MF (searched online), and called GC, asked for a Y Speaker cable, no luck.
honestly I tried searching, I searched for combinations of, "ycable, y cable, speaker, guitar" among others.
I guess I was highly concerned with the entire shielded/non shielded issue, I went to the radio shacks, and I bet they all had the adaptor you guys pointed out above, that wasnt what I was loooking for. I also tried the "mom and pop" where I bought the amp, and although they didnt have the cable, they made a big deal about getting the right cable.
Then I watched this thread and no one seemed to be able to point me to the right piece. So it just seemed odd to me that it was that difficult to find the part, but apparently it wasnt.
appreciate the help
thanks Jesse
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Post by Curt on Feb 21, 2006 21:31:01 GMT -7
ok, I'll take that lump, not sure you needed to yell though..... I be chillin. A headphone splitter, ok, well I guess. I didnt have any idea to search for that. ya I tried MF (searched online), and called GC, asked for a Y Speaker cable, no luck. honestly I tried searching, I searched for combinations of, "ycable, y cable, speaker, guitar" among others. I guess I was highly concerned with the entire shielded/non shielded issue, I went to the radio shacks, and I bet they all had the adaptor you guys pointed out above, that wasnt what I was loooking for. I also tried the "mom and pop" where I bought the amp, and although they didnt have the cable, they made a big deal about getting the right cable. Then I watched this thread and no one seemed to be able to point me to the right piece. So it just seemed odd to me that it was that difficult to find the part, but apparently it wasnt. appreciate the help thanks Jesse Cool, no problemo, and I wasn't yellin'..I stink @ typing and did not realize I hit cap lock !! Good luck, Curt
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 22, 2006 5:43:06 GMT -7
I've seen Y cords from PA speaker companies in the past. I wouldn't be too crazy about using the Radio Shack part to carry speaker loads. It wouldn't be hard at all to make your own Y cable. Or you could use a small aluminum project box with three speaker jacks all wired together.
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 22, 2006 7:05:54 GMT -7
from what I can tell Reverend used Nutrik right angle with 2 ply ...14 or 16 gauge with 2 female 1/4 inch all wraped up with shrink wrap . sure could make a good un
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Feb 22, 2006 10:33:34 GMT -7
Seems like you could make one..... correct me if i'm wrong but... get 2 heavy duty lengths of speakerwire (14 guage?), solder both wires (each) hot/ground to one good 1/4" jack at one end ( preferably one of those w/ the big barrels on the back) and then solder a 1/4" (male /female?) jack to each of the other ends as you normally would a regular cable.... seems like that would work... is that how the reverends look?? If noboby see's a problem with that I'm gonna make one and try it.... ( dave you said reverend used 2 FEMALE's on the ends..... I guess to then run your own speakers cables the rest of the way, but seems like you could also use longer cords and just go ahead and run 2 males on the other end also?? instead of a short Y just go ahead and make the whole cord= you think one way would be better or worse, no difference??? might try both ways.....) jharris....if it works well I'll make you one too if you want me to, if you can't find one to buy somewhere or find someone around/ near you to make one... Jason
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Post by jharris on Feb 22, 2006 12:08:04 GMT -7
Jason, ya man, if you want to make some that would be awesome, Ill buy the materials for yours and mine, and Ill play the shipping to get one to me.
lemme know and Ill paypal you some dough for the project.
jesse
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Post by bluzsteel on Feb 22, 2006 12:21:27 GMT -7
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Feb 22, 2006 17:40:57 GMT -7
" another thing I like about 2 females is one speaker from the combo and one to the extension cab" ahhhh... didn't think about the COMBO (I was thinking Head /cab/cab...duh) w/ the dual females on the combc back the internal cord is right there..... OK.... Female's the way to go... I've always liked females, now I know why.... ;D jharris... no need to pay or anything yet... let me get the stuff (just happen to have 8' of Pro CO speaker cable from antique electronics)... see how much it's gonna cost... but SHOULDN'T be much... and let ME build one and try it, but it shouldn't be a problem... I should be able to ge to it in the next day or so.... It may cost so little that you could just pay for the shipping, we'll see.... just have to get some good connectors ( I'll use Neutrik ... but for mine/ prototype I'll just use radio shack plugs... when I get the good ones I'll make me a keeper along w/ you one) be great for me for practice w/ my ghia and my 1x12 Z ext cab... Jason
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Post by jharris on Feb 23, 2006 14:48:35 GMT -7
cool jason thanks man
ya mine is for use with the combo so the female ends make sense for me too.
some karma headed your way
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Post by LeftyLang on Feb 23, 2006 21:39:02 GMT -7
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Feb 23, 2006 23:32:31 GMT -7
cool jason thanks man ya mine is for use with the combo so the female ends make sense for me too. some karma headed your way HEY JESSE, checked out a bunch of different plugs and wanted to use neutrik connectors but they didn't have the jumbo's... I like the Jumbo's and most of mine I use are switchcraft anyway.... so I found and am going to use the switchcraft= 1 jumbo male/ 2 jumbo female (soldered NOT screw in) ends... silver solder with the 16 gauge Pro Co speaker cable I have.... should be a pretty nice cable?? if I don't screw it up...should be easy and now that we've talked about it I really need one for my Ghia internal 10's and to my ext 1x12 cab... so I'm jones'in fo one now for my bands practice... gonna go to radio shack tomorrow and see what cheapy jacks they have while I order the other's... If you need one quick I could make you one like I'm gonna work on tomorrow as long as the "shack" has the stuff in stock... their plugs should be cheap but the 3 switchcraft plugs are gonna cost about $10.00 total. so it's gonna cost about 15.00 to make the nicer cable... I'll be the guinnea pig ;D somebody will probably point out a really good cord somebody's already making right after this but I can't help it now I'm on a mission... I love doing crap like this anyway, hey I could start a company making just these plugs for Dr Z amps and I'll name the cord the STINGRAY... I dare 'em to sue me... just kidding... just kidding... but I may make my own speaker cables from now on as thick as I can make em and as short as I need it... Jason
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Post by Curt on Feb 24, 2006 7:28:44 GMT -7
Looks just like the Radio Shack thingy to me. Jayson, I'm sure you'd sell all you care to make to Fellow Forumites.... Ya'll have a Great Friday and weekend...... Happy Giggin' Boyz.. Let's all give 'em an 'ol Z shot from the Dr. tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;^)
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