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Post by surfhard on Feb 11, 2013 11:31:55 GMT -7
I got an email from Don that the Post Phase Inverter Master Volume mod will be available for the Remedy in a few weeks. They have ordered new faceplates and as soon as they are in they can get it done.
He said the newer Remedy will have the PPIMV and tone by-pass standard. You know if this is going to be on the future Remedy, it must sound great.
While the PPIMV is not a necessity for me, it is tempting.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Lefty on Feb 11, 2013 11:35:32 GMT -7
Can't honestly say without hearing the mod in real time. That being said, I tend to lean towards "if it ain't broke..."
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 11, 2013 11:42:07 GMT -7
I've had MV mod done on both my Monza and my MAZ GT - would do both again in a minute. Way more flexibility with it.
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Feb 11, 2013 12:55:58 GMT -7
I am very interested in this. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by John on Feb 11, 2013 14:13:00 GMT -7
There's just something about having those power tubes cooking. I have an airbrake, and I'll be getting the 97db creamback. And if it's still too much, I'll use the 1x10 Ghia.
Over the years, I've not liked master volume tube amps.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 11, 2013 15:23:23 GMT -7
I'm in! Got it done to my Z28 and taming the volume this way sounds way better than using a Brake LIte, and it's more flexible. YMMV I will be chasing English John on both of these mods
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Post by Lefty on Feb 11, 2013 15:28:58 GMT -7
There's just something about having those power tubes cooking. I have an airbrake, and I'll be getting the 97db creamback. And if it's still too much, I'll use the 1x10 Ghia. Over the years, I've not liked master volume tube amps. I have to agree, I had an airbrake and just couldn't get with it. Always sounded like there was something choking my sound. Sent from my Desire HD using proboards
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Post by bryan0418 on Feb 11, 2013 16:11:42 GMT -7
Did they say how much it will cost?
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 11, 2013 16:36:52 GMT -7
Did they say how much it will cost? MV mods have been running around $150 plus shipping (that's what I paid for both Monza and MAZ GT).
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Post by iluvpunz on Feb 11, 2013 16:43:42 GMT -7
I'm sending mine in next week. Gotta try it, I love my Remedy but it's hard to travel with because I often don't know the size of the room before we arrive. I'm hoping that the master volume and eq bypass will make it the perfect gigging amp. Don't have many gigs in March so the timing is good.
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Post by mytone100 on Feb 11, 2013 17:00:10 GMT -7
Mines in there now getting an EQ bypass mod. This might have to go with it if its a good design. Sometimes they just don't sound as good once there done. So I'm proceeding with caution.
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Post by John on Feb 11, 2013 17:57:06 GMT -7
There's just something about having those power tubes cooking. I have an airbrake, and I'll be getting the 97db creamback. And if it's still too much, I'll use the 1x10 Ghia. Over the years, I've not liked master volume tube amps. I have to agree, I had an airbrake and just couldn't get with it. Always sounded like there was something choking my sound. Sent from my Desire HD using proboards I'll take an airbrake over a master volume anytime!
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Post by Andy 67 on Feb 12, 2013 4:26:05 GMT -7
I think that a great part of the Remedy's magic comes from being a 'non-master volume' amp. Anyway, if the mod suits your needs, go get it. I'd love to try the 'tone bypass mod', but I'm afraid it won't be available in Spain... Tons of tone!!
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Post by Lefty on Feb 12, 2013 6:35:17 GMT -7
I think that a great part of the Remedy's magic comes from being a 'non-master volume' amp. Anyway, if the mod suits your needs, go get it. I'd love to try the 'tone bypass mod', but I'm afraid it won't be available in Spain... Tons of tone!! I have to agree...pre amp gain/distortion has always left me "meh". Even though I've played some amps that they say with the pre all the way up down left or right it's like not having one...I never felt so. Anywho.
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Post by roknfnrol on Feb 12, 2013 7:12:54 GMT -7
I will not be getting the master volume mod at the moment although I'm sure it will be great. I'd rather slap a pedal in front of the Remedy if I need to control the volume and add dirt. I can also turn the cab and face the wall or away from the crowd and soundman. I've had great master volume amps in the past (Reinhardt) and there is nothing wrong with that, they were amazing amps. One thing I dig about using the Brake Lite SA is that it's a stand-alone device, not a modification.
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Post by surfhard on Feb 12, 2013 9:17:38 GMT -7
Did they say how much it will cost? $185.00 for the PPIMV and Tone by-pass mod, faceplates, w/footswitch. Plus shipping. Thanks for the comments! Very good points for both sides.
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Post by nigel (Rick) on Feb 12, 2013 21:02:53 GMT -7
Hmmm... Mike, you getting your's done PPIMV? Lemme know sos I can invite myself over to play! We're not gigging in April. :-)
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Post by surfhard on Feb 13, 2013 9:33:04 GMT -7
Hmmm... Mike, you getting your's done PPIMV? Lemme know sos I can invite myself over to play! We're not gigging in April. :-) Definately considering it. Price is very reasonable. Come sit in with us next time! I know there are couple different versions of the PPIMV and one of them takes it out of the curcuit when it is turned fully clockwise. That would be a nice feature.
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Post by mytone100 on Feb 13, 2013 13:26:24 GMT -7
Hmmm... Mike, you getting your's done PPIMV? Lemme know sos I can invite myself over to play! We're not gigging in April. :-) I know there are couple different versions of the PPIMV and one of them takes it out of the curcuit when it is turned fully clockwise. That would be a nice feature. That's the type it is according to DR Z. Fully clockwise outa the circuit. Pretty cool.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 13, 2013 14:13:46 GMT -7
^^^ That's why it's getting fitted to mine as soon as it's available over here - best of both worlds
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 21:03:53 GMT -7
I have to agree, I had an airbrake and just couldn't get with it. Always sounded like there was something choking my sound. Sent from my Desire HD using proboards I'll take an airbrake over a master volume anytime! Now the brake lite I had I felt choked up my sound some but the Airbrake for me is different. I was able to A/B between the airbrake and the brake lite and the airbrake was less compressed and fatter sounding. If I didn't have the airbrake I would maybe consider the MV mod just for home use. I can see it being a good thing down the road. I like my Remedy just the way it is for right now. I agree If somethin aint broke don't try to fix it. The easiest solution for a loud amp is get a less efficient speaker. That helped me quite a bit going from the gold to the creamback really changed my world with the remedy.
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Post by jammergreg on Feb 13, 2013 22:44:41 GMT -7
For a minute I thought it was a Master Voltage. I have a Remedy (stock) and an amp with a master voltage. I got excited for a minute. That M Voltage is real usable. The OD pedal works great with Remedy. Not to sure about Master volume ?
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 14, 2013 0:53:18 GMT -7
If I understood my tech guy right, a PPIMV works in a very similar way to 65amps' Master Voltage, in that it doesn't just rate down a single element of the signal path, but keeps elements of the amp in balance with each other (you can tell I am no engineer, so forgive the language used!). I have one fitted to my Z28 and it is WAY better than a Brake Lite fo sure!
It's the same thing as fitted to the Monza IIRC, so maybe those folks could shed light on its effectiveness? Take look on that section - they seem to love it.
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Post by vanceen on Feb 14, 2013 17:02:06 GMT -7
To my limited understanding, it is different from ordinary master volume controls in that it is post the phase inverter tube. Most master volumes are past the preamp tubes but before the phase inverter. Reportedly the phase inverter contributes a lot to a good overdriven sound, in fact I've read that most of what people talk about as "power tube distortion" is actually PI distortion. So instead of hearing only the preamps distort (which can sound artificial), you get the complexity of the PI distortion thrown in.
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Post by edgie on Feb 15, 2013 1:39:26 GMT -7
Hi! I'm new to this board but I've visited before to read about the Doc's tone machines. I'm now very interested in the Remedy, specially now on this PPIMV feature, and Monza.
When Don said that PPIMV and tone stack bypass will be available as a standard, does it automatically mean there will be a price increase? I haven't finished reading yet all the threads on both sections of these amps so I'm not sure if Monza had a price increase when the MV became standard with it last year.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 15, 2013 1:59:29 GMT -7
Hey edgie, welcome to the forum! You certainly plan on starting at the top, with a Remedy! That's a good question regarding price changes for these mods. I imagine there would be a small uplift due the extra components and work involved, but I have to say I don't know for sure. If no-one answers here, email the DrZ shop directly - they are very approachable and incredibly helpful. Here's hoping you get a Rem and stay around to share your thoughts. Cheers Pete
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Post by edgie on Feb 15, 2013 2:56:22 GMT -7
Thanks for the welcome, Pete! I will email Dr Z directly later about it. I'm still reading about the various amps that the Doc makes and honestly, and I'm sure you all here have experienced it, it's very tough to make a choice among them. The Maz 18 Jr. was considered too but I'm a Marshall-dirt rock tone type of guy so I've narrowed it down to the Remedy and Monza.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 15, 2013 4:18:03 GMT -7
^^^ Yep, makes sense!! I started with the Maz18, have gone through the Monza, Carmen Ghia, Z28 and Remedy (I still have the last two, and would have kept them ALL, if I could have afforded it!) For me, I realised I was not a huge fan of EL84 OD tones - this is purely personal taste - but love the Doc's take on 6V6 tones, so the Z28 and Remedy have won my heart! Just to add MORE confusion to your search, the Antidote is due for imminent release which runs on KT66 tubes I believe. But if it's Marshall tone you want, but more-than-Marshall, then the Remedy is the baby for you without a doubt. Man, that amp ROCKS!! I don't know how/where you play, but please note one thing: Z amps use Z Watts, and they are LOUD!! I'll be getting the PPIMV done to my Remedy as soon as it's available over here (UK), and have fitted one already to my Z28. Made a HUGE difference IMHO - much better than using a Brake Lite. I know others prefer the Air Brake with the Remedy, but with the PPIMV, it's one less box to carry Let us know how you get on. Cheers Pete
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Post by edgie on Feb 15, 2013 8:11:42 GMT -7
Yeah, I'm also waiting for the news on Antidote. After watching reviews, considering my needs for volume(and its restrictions), I think it'll be Remedy or the Antidote for me over the Monza as there will be time where I'll need to use pedals. I think the Remedy, even with its lower headroom compared to other medium-wattage Z's, will still make a decent pedal platform.
I have used the Hot Plate from THD before when I had my THD Flexi-50 and I didn't like what it did to my tone past 2 clicks which is still loud. That led me to scaling down to smaller and quieter amps and I don't think I would want another attenuator again. Reading that the PPIMV is better(and it really seems so, based on the Monza clips) for some members here gives me hope in owning a medium-wattage amp again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 8:41:34 GMT -7
I wonder what the new faceplate is going to look like on the new remedy's? Wonder where the master volume is going to go?
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