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Post by Curt on Jan 3, 2007 12:48:14 GMT -7
Funny, some pedals will feedback like crazy with my Maz Jr. even with buckers, others don't. Could be certain freqs that accentuated by the amp/pedal combo that just don't work. I like feedback, but only if I can control it. Exactly, I LOVE controled feed back and it is part of MY thing, but twice with the BB I could not use it due to uncontrollable feedback Once was with 'Buckers and it was TERRBLE.
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Post by Lefty on Jan 3, 2007 13:12:30 GMT -7
It does it REALLY bad with my bridge bucker on my Lester but not on the neck. And only with certain pedals. I was thinking maybe the pup is micro phonic, but doubtful.
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Post by skydog958 on Jan 3, 2007 14:02:44 GMT -7
With the BB I've also had feedback issues with 'buckers, particularly if the amp is set a bit hot. I've never been able to set the gain higher than 11 o'clock with any guitar. Great sounding pedal though when controllable.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 3, 2007 14:20:09 GMT -7
What kind of feedback are you guys talking about? Is the pedal itself microphonic? Or are you saying it's bad ground high squeally thing?
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Post by Curt on Jan 4, 2007 14:19:58 GMT -7
Billy mine will go into feedback reminisent of a microphonic pre amp tube. I do stack the BB with the RC or even the BD-2 when a tune calls for more sustain and I used to get some good controllable feedback ala '70's rock. I like to keep that going over a drum fill or short solo we do but the dern thing does not have that musical feedback on a consistant basis. I played two shows using the MAZ Jr and did not get the feedback but with the 66 and 'Rati I have gotten it???
I need to take the time to really figure this out, move the boxes around in order etc.
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Post by dock66 on Jan 4, 2007 14:33:17 GMT -7
Can't recall having feedback with BB pre.I have to try my Lester with the bridge PU.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 6, 2007 14:02:09 GMT -7
I just bought a used BB today. Tried it out a minute ago with my Stang Ray. Very good pedal! I tried one when they first came out and that's what I thought then too. Not as rich somehow as my Analogman King of Tone but the BB is one of the best I've ever tried. Slightly fizzy and it kind of has those Soldano multiple harmonics but it's still very good. It can also preserve the sound of your guitar quite well. For guys playing Duane Allman kind of slide this would be great pedal. As an all around overdive this is about as good as it gets.
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Post by skydog958 on Jan 6, 2007 14:05:39 GMT -7
Yeah I noticed the "fizz," but I kinda dig it in a way. The 45 into G12H30s is gritty to begin with. I do roll the treble back a touch. Rolling the volume back also gets rid of it and gives you a smoother tone.
Billy, is yours a newer or older one?
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Post by Bill on Jan 6, 2007 14:28:34 GMT -7
It can also preserve the sound of your guitar quite well. As an all around overdive this is about as good as it gets. I'm lovin' the BB/ RC/ Stingray 1x12 setup. Smooth OD with a touch of grit, but doesn't color the tone like a TS9 for instance. Leaves the clarity of individual notes intact as well. Very well done Xotic!
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 6, 2007 19:02:48 GMT -7
Mine has a serial number of 805. I don't know if that is "older" or not.
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Post by Hohn on Jan 6, 2007 19:56:37 GMT -7
Methinks that goop is a dumble-like attempt to hide what's underneath to prevent piracy.
I also suspect that the goop insulates the components, making them run hotter and more prone to failure.
jmo
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Post by skydog958 on Jan 6, 2007 20:15:46 GMT -7
Yeah, I thought the goo was to hide the circuit. Klons have that too I believe.
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Post by Curt on Jan 9, 2007 20:49:44 GMT -7
I digress on my BB flaking out on me as I can not duplicate it. Must of been a faulty connection. The search did cause me to adjust the BB and the RC and was pulling some great tones with the Rati Sunday....
ItZ awl guwd
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 10, 2007 9:47:04 GMT -7
Good to hear!
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Post by jakeddy on Jan 12, 2007 5:39:01 GMT -7
The "newer" ones have the light at the top of the pedal and not in the middle.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 12, 2007 6:03:31 GMT -7
Then mine's a 'newer' one.
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Post by skydog958 on Jan 12, 2007 7:47:24 GMT -7
Yeah, mine's newer, and the SN is #711.
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Post by (8^D) on Jan 12, 2007 9:34:08 GMT -7
The "newer" ones have the light at the top of the pedal and not in the middle. Good to know - guess mine is a newer build as well. Still lovin' it!
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Post by hollywood5150 on Jan 18, 2007 21:33:48 GMT -7
They must have started the serial numbers over with the newer units. I've had a BB for about a 1 1/2 years, and my number is 1295 (I think). It is the older style. It's sound great with any amp I tried it with. I keep the gain between 10:00 and 2:00. I've thought about getting another. I'm getting to old to bend over a change it all the time.
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Post by guitarstan on Jan 19, 2007 5:57:52 GMT -7
I'm getting to old to bend over a change it all the time. How old a fella are ye? ;D
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Post by Lefty on Jan 20, 2007 12:04:37 GMT -7
Methinks that goop is a dumble-like attempt to hide what's underneath to prevent piracy. I also suspect that the goop insulates the components, making them run hotter and more prone to failure. jmo No substantial heat is generated by these types of circuits. The only way they could create any real heat to cause component failure is if there is a short. You would most likely have a lead break under the goop due to access movement or a poor solder joint. It's strictly for circuit security.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 21, 2007 6:53:07 GMT -7
You guys aren't going to like this much but I played friday night with my Lentz and '67 Vibrolux Reverb and used the BB a couple of times. It's good but the Analogman King of Tone is much smoother. A lot of 'hash' in the BB. Still, it's better than most.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 21, 2007 9:42:45 GMT -7
You guys aren't going to like this much but I played friday night with my Lentz and '67 Vibrolux Reverb and used the BB a couple of times. It's good but the Analogman King of Tone is much smoother. A lot of 'hash' in the BB. Still, it's better than most. Don't bother me none... I like that hash...
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 21, 2007 10:33:31 GMT -7
I agree it can be right sometimes. Notice I didn't say I was selling it yet!
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Post by Curt on Jan 21, 2007 10:36:25 GMT -7
"Hash" ?? :Harsh: ? I broke out the '68 Pro Reverb last week, The BB is eh with it, but the $39 Bad Monkey cooks with old Fenders !!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 21, 2007 10:55:12 GMT -7
"Hash" ?? :Harsh: ? I broke out the '68 Pro Reverb last week, The BB is eh with it, but the $39 Bad Monkey cooks with old Fenders !! You know, I have to get me one of those - everyone says they sound great, and they sure are cheap!
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Post by (8^D) on Jan 21, 2007 13:27:25 GMT -7
Yeah, the Bad Monkey is a fun pedal. You just can't beat it for under $40. And, they're metal/bullet proof. It isn't as "open" sounding as the $$ boutiques, but it's pretty dog-gone good. Definately prefer it over a stock TS or the like.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 21, 2007 16:29:47 GMT -7
I tried them when they first came out and it isn't all that transparent but it is better than a stock TS. So I agree, it's a very good pedal. I'd take it over a Full-whatever. By 'hash' I meant a lot of overtone stuff but seems more random. The BB is a good gain pedal for sure but it likes to do more gain better than low gain.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 21, 2007 17:03:14 GMT -7
I tried them when they first came out and it isn't all that transparent but it is better than a stock TS. So I agree, it's a very good pedal. I'd take it over a Full-whatever. By 'hash' I meant a lot of overtone stuff but seems more random. The BB is a good gain pedal for sure but it likes to do more gain better than low gain. Granted. That's how I'm using it here, I think, so that might explain a bit of different perspective. I'm using the BB for my highest gain solos, which aren't really very high gain by modern standards, but which are pretty high gain for me.
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Post by Strato on Jan 28, 2007 1:16:23 GMT -7
sooo...
I got my BB pre in about a week ago. At the usual place i play at, I cant crank my amp that much. I was using a strat, and I found the tone to be "close", but not exactly what i wanted. However, rolling off the tone know on my strat helped alot.
Today, I was playing at another gig, where stage volume doesnt matter. I dont like alot of speaker breakup so with the low input, i had volume and master around noon. Once again i pulled out the strat. There was definitely some improvement with the amp cranked. Then during a verse of a song, I decided to switch over to my 335.
I kicked the BB on and almost lost it. I had to put my guitar down, and I considered going to the bathroom as I was almost in tears(i'm almost not exagerating). Absolute HEAVANLY Tone. Exactly what I was looking for, times 10. At the end of rehersal, my mouth hurt because i was grinning the whole time.
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