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COT 50
May 9, 2006 16:32:36 GMT -7
Post by James on May 9, 2006 16:32:36 GMT -7
Just got one..........with my les paul, this gem sounds amazing......and all with the volume at 9 to 10 oclock...........I just wanted to continue on a previous thread discussing this pedal with the RT 66. I just put the Treble and Bass at 3 pm........and all that nice growl you get from a humbucker...without any effects...........just got a little bigger, fatter, hairyer...and more "chewey".........with the COT turned on.........( gain at 8 on the COT). Its a big deal for me because I have been thru about 5 OD's that did not do it for me with this amp...........none of them was very transparent........this pedal is not transparent exactly, but.......it just makes thr RT 66 sound even more like the Rt 66 can sound when cranked.........kinda like the airbrake, but with no loss of anything I like about the amp. Great pedal!
I'll be using it live this weekend in a small sports bar...and report back.......but just at home.........the big RT just got bigger! better!
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COT 50
May 9, 2006 17:03:39 GMT -7
Post by taswegian on May 9, 2006 17:03:39 GMT -7
How are things James? Hope your doing fine.
That Cot pedal looks very interesting. Sounds like a great pedal for lower volume ampy overdrive, much the same way I use the Compression cut on the FD2. I would love to check it out, the sound clips are real nice. Couldn't see a price anywhere but I'm guessing about $200?
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COT 50
May 9, 2006 17:57:53 GMT -7
Post by James on May 9, 2006 17:57:53 GMT -7
My dad has started a regimen of treatments and he seems to be improving. Slowly , but surely. We are all in a holding pattern and just waiting with hope for now. Thanks so much for asking.....that made my night.....and I appreciated your kind words a few weeks back when I needed it. Good stuff my friend......
yup, $200.................it is like using a clean boost like the comp/cut......., but, you also get the feature of working your volume for added gain.......and the gain ONLY sounds like the RT 66, but even more alive.....not mushy or muffled at all......I am looking forward to using it and finally getting a great rock tone at a reasonable volume.......maybe 1 click on the airbrake if I needed....
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COT 50
May 9, 2006 20:02:39 GMT -7
Post by goodwillsteve on May 9, 2006 20:02:39 GMT -7
you think the COT would sound good with a maz jr. im using an OCD and its just kinda ehhhh. i used to have a fd2 and used the comp cut mode for a boost. i liked that but using my vol knob really didnt work with it. the way you describe it makes it sound like its something im looking for. just wondering. thanks.
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COT 50
May 9, 2006 20:20:34 GMT -7
Post by taswegian on May 9, 2006 20:20:34 GMT -7
Working the volume know with the FD2 in CC works well for me with the 66 so it might be a headroom issue. But if you check it out let me know what you think, sounds like a great pedal.
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COT 50
May 9, 2006 20:36:18 GMT -7
Post by James on May 9, 2006 20:36:18 GMT -7
I think it would sound better than the OCD..........It actually sounds, to me, the way I wanted my OCD to sound when I owned one......I also tried it with my maz sr and a strat and it sounded great..........so I bet you'd like it with the JR. You could easily leave it on all the time and work from your volume knob. I was going back and forth between Sweet Home Alabama and Voodo Chile type tones.....without adjusting my amp or clicking any other pedal......... Does not sound like a pedal....at all.....sounds like an amp..........very touch responsive.........I guess this could be said about a lot of pedals.........but especially the COT.
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COT 50
May 9, 2006 20:51:12 GMT -7
Post by goodwillsteve on May 9, 2006 20:51:12 GMT -7
just might have to check it out. thanks guys.
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COT 50
May 10, 2006 1:01:49 GMT -7
Post by taswegian on May 10, 2006 1:01:49 GMT -7
Good stuff. Man, more gas, more gear. I should just get everything I want and then open a "hire" shop for musicians. Probably make more money than doing gigs! Sure would make it fun for the folks doing the same ol' thing night to night too. They could walk in and say, " I think I'll try the COT 50, with the Echoczar tonight" and be able to try different things week to week. "I have an outdoor gig tonight, can I hire the Delta 88 and the 4-10 cab!" Mmmm, I might be on to something here....If I was still in Melbourne I think I'd give this a shot. Don't think Hobart could support it though. Perhaps I could get a small business loan to get it started and then just go crazy. Mmmm. You could even include "try before you buy" option. Sorry, I'm not myself at the moment, now I'm writing as I think! James, I'll be interested to hear your post gig report. Cheers
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COT 50
May 10, 2006 5:57:00 GMT -7
Post by James on May 10, 2006 5:57:00 GMT -7
You'd be a boutique "Pimp".......................
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COT 50
May 10, 2006 7:23:56 GMT -7
Post by taswegian on May 10, 2006 7:23:56 GMT -7
yeah Pimp my rig! Sorry, I'm severely sleep deprived at the moment and I think I was getting delirious with that last post.
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COT 50
May 11, 2006 9:21:59 GMT -7
Post by Beckanon on May 11, 2006 9:21:59 GMT -7
Yeah, I've still got RickRob's COT50 on loan (Rick -- say when, buddy!) . I haven't turned on my eternity in weeks now. At recent gigs I have gotten great mileage from the Red Snapper and COT50. Sometimes stacking them together. The COT is aggressive sounding, but controllable -- by that, I mean it responds to dynamics, volume knob and tone knob control as well as any other pedal I've tried. It's voiced a wee bright, but it's that Marshall top end and it's never harsh.
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COT 50
May 25, 2006 16:58:49 GMT -7
Post by Telemanic on May 25, 2006 16:58:49 GMT -7
I still can not say enough about the COT, Wow! what a great pedal. I'm sure like all things, its not for everybody. But it so far for me has been the one pedal that sounds more like its an integral part of the amp circuit, than any other. I can go an entire set without stepping on anything, just guit volume! I'm stacking it with a lovepedal (mosfet boost) that is just as amazing, if not a bit more one dimensional. It does only one thing, bone clean boost,... but with this righteous harmonic phatness. I got it for a solo volume boost, but damn if i didnt find i like it on all the time as well, and just back off the guitar for rythym. The best tone ive ever had from my Tele, and 66 !! Mine is the Blue (lower gain ) version, and i'm interested in the how anyone finds the red one vs. the blue ?
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COT 50
Jun 18, 2006 9:13:22 GMT -7
Post by DaSkip on Jun 18, 2006 9:13:22 GMT -7
I own and rely on a FAB-50. Sean offered these up as "Tone for 50 Bones" on Harmony Central a few years back. I of course bought one and love it. Sean did a hot-rod job on it about a year later. I think it is my "desert-isle pedal". It sounds great with any guitar or amp I use it with. It shines with my MAZ 18 JR and I'm sure it will kill with the 66 that is enroute to to me as we speak. Sean's Balance is a little hotter than my FAB-50 but really fun as well.
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COT 50
Jul 13, 2006 4:35:41 GMT -7
Post by lucille on Jul 13, 2006 4:35:41 GMT -7
Quick question: Since the COT does not have a volume pot: will it increase the volume when activated or is it meant to be to dial in the gain and then work whith the guitars volume pot?
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COT 50
Jul 13, 2006 6:34:35 GMT -7
Post by James on Jul 13, 2006 6:34:35 GMT -7
Lucille, I had the same question. The volume is pretty much the same as your amps volume when you kick the COT on.
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yup
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COT 50
Jul 14, 2006 9:30:02 GMT -7
Post by yup on Jul 14, 2006 9:30:02 GMT -7
Lucille, I had the same question. The volume is pretty much the same as your amps volume when you kick the COT on. damn it, now you've got me interested with this statement. ;D Can you explain a little more about how the COT differs from the OCD? I've got an OCD at the moment and my only real gripe is that it has to much output (even in LP mode) - the COT not changing the volume sounds very interesting. Thanks for any info, Yup.
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COT 50
Jul 14, 2006 13:20:24 GMT -7
Post by James on Jul 14, 2006 13:20:24 GMT -7
The COT to me is what the OCD wishes it could be. I think the OCD has higher gain potential, but, not better than actually turning up your amp! The COT is not a volume boost and what I have found is that you really can leave it on ALL the time and clean things up with your volume knob on your axe. ( I can go from a "lenny" SRV sound to a hot "Pride and Joy" tone by twisting my volume.......) In order to really be able to work with my guitar volume, however, I have had to "mod" all of my guitars so that no treble is lost when turning down the Volume. I Dont like the COT with the Bias knob past noon.........I don't find it useful past that point. Its a really great pedal.......especially with the rt 66 as it ads some high end sparkle
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yup
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COT 50
Jul 14, 2006 13:51:40 GMT -7
Post by yup on Jul 14, 2006 13:51:40 GMT -7
The COT to me is what the OCD wishes it could be. I think the OCD has higher gain potential, but, not better than actually turning up your amp! The COT is not a volume boost and what I have found is that you really can leave it on ALL the time and clean things up with your volume knob on your axe. ( I can go from a "lenny" SRV sound to a hot "Pride and Joy" tone by twisting my volume.......) In order to really be able to work with my guitar volume, however, I have had to "mod" all of my guitars so that no treble is lost when turning down the Volume. I Dont like the COT with the Bias knob past noon.........I don't find it useful past that point. Its a really great pedal.......especially with the rt 66 as it ads some high end sparkle Sounds very interesting, I'll have to check the emporium. Is there only one version of the pedal or have update/grades taken place? How does it sound with the 28? Thanks, Yup.
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COT 50
Jul 14, 2006 15:24:36 GMT -7
Post by James on Jul 14, 2006 15:24:36 GMT -7
Seems to be only one version. E-mail Sean at lovepedal.......he is a great guy who will answer all your questions quickly. He actually lives pretty close to me.
As far as the 28, it sounds great with the "church of tone", but, I like the sound of the z 28 crANKED a whole lot better with a les paul straight in..........and then Air Brake as needed.........just work yer V knobs.
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COT 50
Jul 15, 2006 18:55:11 GMT -7
Post by DaSkip on Jul 15, 2006 18:55:11 GMT -7
Just like what 19jmm68 has said. With a COT-50 or FAB-50 just dial in the amount of boost/hair you want and leave it turned on. It cleans up great with your guitars volume knob. Everyone that plays my FAB-50 wants it. I have an Eternity built by Sean as well that is next in line downsteam from the FAB-50. Sweetness for sure.
All this being said, I still play play dry/straight into the amp most of the time.
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COT 50
Jul 16, 2006 19:58:49 GMT -7
Post by rcrecelius on Jul 16, 2006 19:58:49 GMT -7
Dangit...just when I thought I had all the pedals I need!
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jbro
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COT 50
Jul 17, 2006 7:54:12 GMT -7
Post by jbro on Jul 17, 2006 7:54:12 GMT -7
Personally I find there's a pretty big volume boost when I turn on the COT50 (mine is the blue LED version), and the higher you turn the knob, the higher the volume gets. Obviously if your amp is near its saturation point already you won't really notice this, the tone will just get fatter. But at home and at low volume levels I definately notice a big jump when I kick in the COT. Fortunately, on the gigs I use this pedal for, I never have to turn it off and I just use the guitar volume to control it. It's a great pedal!
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COT 50
Aug 4, 2006 8:33:09 GMT -7
Post by prowler on Aug 4, 2006 8:33:09 GMT -7
So what exactly does the COT do? Is it a treble booster or is it more like having another gain stage between your guitar & amp?
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COT 50
Aug 4, 2006 10:57:56 GMT -7
Post by fuzzkarl on Aug 4, 2006 10:57:56 GMT -7
The COT does have a boost & as siad above if your at giging vol. you won't notice as much as bedroom players will. There are 2 versions of the COT ,Red & Blue.Red being the hotter of the 2. The Fab50 is a different pedal.The hottest I believe & slightly different curcuit.But basicly the same. The COT sounds great w/ HB & realy shines with singles. It is not a treble booster but more of a "old plexi in a box" type. Killer hendrix tone.Piared up with a Magicboy vibe.is just stunning. The Eternity is a hole nother animal.Think tweed amp with a treble booster insteed of a tone knob. My #1 goto OD & an amazing pedal all around.
Hope that helps.
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COT 50
Aug 21, 2006 12:41:34 GMT -7
Post by prowler on Aug 21, 2006 12:41:34 GMT -7
All this talk about the COT has me really curious as to what it will sound like with my 66. Anyone have any clips of the COT 50 through a 66 with Humbuckers? Or better yet.... anyone want to let me borrow one for a few days?
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COT 50
Aug 22, 2006 9:17:57 GMT -7
Post by Telemanic on Aug 22, 2006 9:17:57 GMT -7
Hey prowler, send me a Pm and i'll send ya my COT (blue) to try out and see if you like it.
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COT 50
Aug 22, 2006 9:51:08 GMT -7
Post by prowler on Aug 22, 2006 9:51:08 GMT -7
PM & Email sent.
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dewman
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COT 50
Aug 22, 2006 12:34:31 GMT -7
Post by dewman on Aug 22, 2006 12:34:31 GMT -7
COT 50 sounds gooooood through the Rt 66 with a strat. A little mid thin, but cops that hendrix feel so well from the later recordings.
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COT 50
Aug 29, 2006 3:45:38 GMT -7
Post by prowler on Aug 29, 2006 3:45:38 GMT -7
I've been lucky enough to get both versions of the COT (red & blue) on loan from two forum members (this is a great place). I've given them a run through my 66 using WCR buckers.
COT 50 red - The Red version of this pedal is very plexi like in it's attack & feel. Lots of really nice grind in this pedal. When playing at bedroom levels with the COT 50 Red's bias knob turned all the way up to full it sounds like my 66 does with all knobs at 3 O"clock plus a bit. This is a very good thing for me since I love the tone of my 66 with all knobs at 3 pm but the volume for home use makes me not so popular. The Red is a bright pedal & I do have to tweak the highs & lows to help round out the tone. A killer pedal for sure.
COT 50 Blue- Another great sounding pedal. The COT Blue has noticeably less gain than the Red. The Blue also seems to be more balanced tonally across the entire range. Same feel & attack as the Red but a bit smoother, warmer & "rounder". Another killer pedal.
I can see how the Red might be a tad too much for brighter voiced amps & the Blue might be a bit much for darker amps. The bottom line is both versions of the COT are very useable through the 66 & yield amazing tones across the board. It's not out of line to have & use both on your board as each of them sound different enough to warrant owning each.
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COT 50
Sept 28, 2006 0:48:39 GMT -7
Post by taswegian on Sept 28, 2006 0:48:39 GMT -7
Anyone out of the honeymoon stage with this pedal? Or is it still the shazizzle!
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