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Post by frankie on Aug 29, 2024 10:36:16 GMT -7
I'll be processing shorter sound clips for nearly every amp in the lineup, inspired by perryr Jetta clips that we featured on that product page. These remind me of the Seymour Duncan pickup clips they have featured for years and I think are a useful addition. drzamps.com/product/octal-six/I think some of you might recognize the clips from a specific product's test signal... more on that to come later in the year...
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Post by visualguy on Aug 29, 2024 19:14:41 GMT -7
I don't recognize the clips but man, it sounds really good. The clean and overdrive tones sound so useful and vintage. Nicely done, Frank.
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Post by adam on Aug 30, 2024 6:03:14 GMT -7
I think some of you might recognize the clips from a specific product's test signal... more on that to come later in the year... Looks great and really well written too. I do recognize those clips. I don’t know how they did those, but that person has to be the most ham fisted player ever. Maybe they compressed the snot out of the di signal. Probably neither here nor there, but I generally play at about 1/4-1/2 the level of that person. Meandering mind further, maybe that’s where I had a problem getting that to work well for me, like I setup a tone to how I play into the amp, and then it doesn’t seem to come out right. Food for thought I guess.
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Post by frankie on Aug 30, 2024 11:17:22 GMT -7
I think some of you might recognize the clips from a specific product's test signal... more on that to come later in the year... Looks great and really well written too. I do recognize those clips. I don’t know how they did those, but that person has to be the most ham fisted player ever. Maybe they compressed the snot out of the di signal. Probably neither here nor there, but I generally play at about 1/4-1/2 the level of that person. Meandering mind further, maybe that’s where I had a problem getting that to work well for me, like I setup a tone to how I play into the amp, and then it doesn’t seem to come out right. Food for thought I guess. It's not that the DI is compressed, its that the levels are all totally all over the place. The difficulty of dealing with the product in question is the gain staging of both the signal in and the signal out. On top of the fact that the clips are of a player with ZERO dynamics. I found that there is no hope in even getting a level of an actual guitar to equally match for what the clips that they want to reamp with, so you need to just dial the amp to suit the reamp signal and literally ride the gain staging per clip on the pres and on the reamp box sending out. There's no wonder people have difficulty with it, it's not intuitive at all. I had to divorce myself from what it sounds and feels like actually play into the amp, and go into pure engineer mode, not guitar player mode; that is, make it sound good via mic placement, gain staging, and knob twiddling. When it all came out, if I could get a clean signal through the amp roughly around 9-9:30 on the amp, that is the same level that most guitars are going to be totally clean. 11-12 for overdrive, then 3-5 for fully cranked. That was always my benchmark in gain staging for this particular product. It definitely wasn't easy.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Aug 30, 2024 11:32:19 GMT -7
Looks great and really well written too. I do recognize those clips. I don’t know how they did those, but that person has to be the most ham fisted player ever. Maybe they compressed the snot out of the di signal. Probably neither here nor there, but I generally play at about 1/4-1/2 the level of that person. Meandering mind further, maybe that’s where I had a problem getting that to work well for me, like I setup a tone to how I play into the amp, and then it doesn’t seem to come out right. Food for thought I guess. It's not that the DI is compressed, its that the levels are all totally all over the place. The difficulty of dealing with the product in question is the gain staging of both the signal in and the signal out. On top of the fact that the clips are of a player with ZERO dynamics. I found that there is no hope in even getting a level of an actual guitar to equally match for what the clips that they want to reamp with, so you need to just dial the amp to suit the reamp signal and literally ride the gain staging per clip on the pres and on the reamp box sending out. There's no wonder people have difficulty with it, it's not intuitive at all. I had to divorce myself from what it sounds and feels like actually play into the amp, and go into pure engineer mode, not guitar player mode; that is, make it sound good via mic placement, gain staging, and knob twiddling. When it all came out, if I could get a clean signal through the amp roughly around 9-9:30 on the amp, that is the same level that most guitars are going to be totally clean. 11-12 for overdrive, then 3-5 for fully cranked. That was always my benchmark in gain staging for this particular product. It definitely wasn't easy. I wish i understood even a fraction of thus discussion…. 😀. What is “the product”, or can you say?
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Post by frankie on Aug 30, 2024 12:53:54 GMT -7
It's not that the DI is compressed, its that the levels are all totally all over the place. The difficulty of dealing with the product in question is the gain staging of both the signal in and the signal out. On top of the fact that the clips are of a player with ZERO dynamics. I found that there is no hope in even getting a level of an actual guitar to equally match for what the clips that they want to reamp with, so you need to just dial the amp to suit the reamp signal and literally ride the gain staging per clip on the pres and on the reamp box sending out. There's no wonder people have difficulty with it, it's not intuitive at all. I had to divorce myself from what it sounds and feels like actually play into the amp, and go into pure engineer mode, not guitar player mode; that is, make it sound good via mic placement, gain staging, and knob twiddling. When it all came out, if I could get a clean signal through the amp roughly around 9-9:30 on the amp, that is the same level that most guitars are going to be totally clean. 11-12 for overdrive, then 3-5 for fully cranked. That was always my benchmark in gain staging for this particular product. It definitely wasn't easy. I wish i understood even a fraction of thus discussion…. 😀. What is “the product”, or can you say? You'll see soon...
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