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Post by all411987 on Feb 11, 2024 5:03:37 GMT -7
Hi All
Recently picked up a new Dr. Z Cure. Have been a fractal user for many years but got sick of tweaking when I realized every sound I like is some version of a cleanish amp with some solid pedals haha. What really drew my attention to the cure was the Level control since I live in a condo in Boston with my wife and baby and it has not dissappointed. Definitely feels so much better at lower volumes than other "attenuators" I've used in the past.
One item I want to add to my set up is a reactive load/DI like a two notes captor or the Suhr Reactive Load. This would allow me to use my amp "silently" with an IR when I need to. It seems like I should just be able to unplug the "Speaker Internal" from my Z (when its off of course) into the amp in on these devices, and then send an XLR from them into my interface (Audient EVO) and run an IR through a cab sim in my DAW.
Does anyone have any experience with Z amps and this technology? Just want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for disaster hah. I'm leaning towards the Suhr because I've heard it has the best feel and I don't need many bells and whistles.
Thanks all!
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Post by John on Feb 11, 2024 7:09:08 GMT -7
I'm not familiar with the two notes captor or the Suhr reactive load.
All I would say is make sure the Cure has an actual load on it. I would be concerned (because I'm not familiar with various load boxes) that while I may be able to get a line out signal from the box, the Cure doesn't have an actual load on it.
As I understand things, running a solid state amp without a load/speaker is ok....but it can be devastating to a tube amp. Component failure, burned up transformers....$$$.
And welcome to the forum.
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Post by adam on Feb 11, 2024 7:09:30 GMT -7
You have it right on the silent part, but the Suhr and captor x have the IR thing on the unit, so no need to do it in the daw. The captor has 2 outputs and you can run one side with the ir and one side without, so you could apply any ir to the "clean" channel in the daw if you wish.
I had the ox box and returned it, and maybe mainly put off by the size and cost of it. Got the Suhr and I thought it sounded "sterile" in some way (returned it). Got the captor x and think it works and sounds very good. I've done quite a few videos using it (YouTube channel adamgotheridge). There's another guy on YouTube who has some demos using the captor (for load) "clean" out into the ox stomp who likes that sound a lot better than the captor cab/mic simulation (YouTube channel FastRedPonyCar). His last 3 videos, one with the ua lion pedal, then 2 more videos with amps.
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Post by Russell B on Feb 11, 2024 7:36:34 GMT -7
I’ve used both the Two Notes Captor X and the UA OX box with my Cure and Z-Lux in live and practice situations. I’ve had good experiences with both. I started with the OX box, but after I saw that Steve Stevens had moved to The Captor X, I got one.
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Post by GuitarZ on Feb 11, 2024 8:47:40 GMT -7
All good info above. I'm an Ox guy and a fan of IRs in general. As you probably found with the fractal, the key on the IR side is being able to dial in some 'room' whether it's in the IR you're using or a function of the box or software. For me, that's the secret sauce that makes it feel good when playing.
Sounds like you want to use the IRs in your computer/DAW. So, the Suhr will give you the interface to get there while the Captor can give you the IRs in the box (unless you go with the Suhr Reactive Load IR).
Enjoy the Cure. Have Fun!
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Post by all411987 on Feb 11, 2024 18:31:04 GMT -7
Thanks all for the insight. The amp really is great. Everything I could ask for. Given that, the last thing I would want do is break it.
Am I right that i would just unplug the cable that is in the "INTERNAL" jack and plug it right into the amp input of the Suhr Reactive Load?
I tried this with a Captor 8 (not the X version) and the only sound I got in my daw going through either the line out or XLR was a horrible buzz. I am suspicious that the Captor was a lemon, so that is why I want to try and the Suhr.
Thanks!
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Post by adam on Feb 12, 2024 5:48:48 GMT -7
all411987 With the regular captor you have to use an ir or two-notes wall of sound plugin. The software (wall of sound) is built into the captor x.
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Post by all411987 on Feb 14, 2024 12:34:25 GMT -7
Thanks, Adam. I should've mentioned that I tried that was still getting the bad buzz. I am suspicious that the captor had an issue so I returned it.
The Suhr RL arrives tomorrow and I am going to give it a try. It is helpful that it takes a unbalanced guitar cable so it'll be easy to test.
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Post by all411987 on Feb 15, 2024 13:03:54 GMT -7
Hi All
So the Suhr Reactive Load just arrived and I'm getting the same issue. I have my amp speaker going into the input of the Reactive Load, then a balanced out into my interface and Im getting horrible distoriton/minimal amp sound.
Anyone experience this before?
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Post by doctorice on Feb 15, 2024 13:22:17 GMT -7
Hi All So the Suhr Reactive Load just arrived and I'm getting the same issue. I have my amp speaker going into the input of the Reactive Load, then a balanced out into my interface and Im getting horrible distoriton/minimal amp sound. Anyone experience this before? You say you "have my amp speaker going into the input". I assume you don't mean that literally. I assume you're running a cable from the amp's speaker out into the Suhr and the Cure's speaker is no longer connected to the amp. Is that right?
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Post by frankie on Feb 15, 2024 13:32:15 GMT -7
Hi All So the Suhr Reactive Load just arrived and I'm getting the same issue. I have my amp speaker going into the input of the Reactive Load, then a balanced out into my interface and Im getting horrible distoriton/minimal amp sound. Anyone experience this before? Are you using a speaker cable from the internal speaker output? You must use a speaker cable, not a instrument cable. With a reactive load it's not necessary to use a speaker. The speaker cable from the CURE internal output needs to go to the INPUT FROM AMP of the reactive load. It also sounds like you may have a ground loop in your signal chain if there is a buzz when hooking up the reactive load, but no buzz when the Cure is using it's speaker. Using the unbalanced output of the line out might alleviate the buzz.
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Post by adam on Feb 15, 2024 19:33:44 GMT -7
Mic input on the interface, and the input on the interface isn't clipping? It should really be plug and play.
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