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Post by hoffmanjz on Nov 4, 2022 18:45:38 GMT -7
Hi, all. I loved my Mk II combo when I got it. I was playing it either flat on the floor or with a couple of small wedges to elevate the front. Then I got an amp stand where it’s completely off the ground a good 6” and aimed about 15 degrees up. Frankly, it sounds horrible with the amp stand - like there’s much less definition to everything.
It’s on a hardwood floor. I guess considering the fact that it’s an open back cabinet and the overall resonance of this cabinet, it’s just too much air bouncing around?
I’m going to go back to running it right on the floor again, and I assume that will fix everything, but I’m curious if anyone else has the combo up off the ground and is liking it.
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Post by helmi on Nov 4, 2022 19:41:34 GMT -7
I don’t know about the Z-28, but I have found I like my amps on the floor or on the floor on a Auralex pad.when I try to elevate my little combo’s, they all sound thin.
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Post by purpletele on Nov 4, 2022 19:50:59 GMT -7
Here is what Z will say,
'Amp on Stand is Bad, Amp on floor is good'
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Post by Faze on Nov 4, 2022 20:09:11 GMT -7
Got mine on the floor.
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Post by smolder on Nov 4, 2022 20:16:35 GMT -7
If the cab is tuned to be on the floor, so be it. Most cabs couple to the floor and get too bassy for me. Almost everything but a 4x12 gets some sort of riser in my world.
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Post by lowbudget on Nov 4, 2022 20:20:24 GMT -7
As a very well respected former member here often said, “put it on the floor and let it roar.”
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Post by Don A on Nov 5, 2022 8:09:00 GMT -7
I like some amps raised off the floor and other amps on the floor. It depends on the playing situation as well (alone, with a band...)
The Z-28 has a vent on the top like the Z Wreck Jr does, and I find that, with the Z Wreck Jr anyway, a lot of bass is produced through that vent. Because of that, I like the amp set low so I can enjoy the added bass from the vent. If I was to record this amp, I'd set at least one mic high enough to capture the sound from the vent.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Nov 5, 2022 12:05:14 GMT -7
Definitely on the floor. One trick I use with my home built Champ to make it sound huge is to put it in front of or partially inside the fireplace (which is level with the floor). Neat reverb effect as well.
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Post by j4gitr (John) on Nov 5, 2022 13:25:58 GMT -7
If it’s a matter of tilting back to fire up at you I use the stand back. www.standback.net/#homeIt couples with the floor nicely, folds up for easy transport, and I can’t tell a difference in the sound, other than it’s coming to me as opposed to my kneecaps.Is it different than your wedges? I can’t say. I have never been fond of the type of stand that lifts the amp off the floor through my experiences.
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Post by hoffmanjz on Nov 5, 2022 13:42:36 GMT -7
Back on the floor today and back to sounding amazing! Thanks for all the comments.
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Post by Faze on Nov 5, 2022 15:41:04 GMT -7
Back on the floor today and back to sounding amazing! Thanks for all the comments. Try cranking the volume all the way up and setting your treble at 1 and bass at 11 and put the master volume at about 9. I got some really nice results at home with my pedals in this setting. I use fuzz pedals and boosts and control everything from my guitar. I got some great results with these setting's with both single coil and humbuckers.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Nov 5, 2022 18:27:23 GMT -7
It depends. I played a gig at a church last week and the sanctuary we played in was brick, floor to ceiling. The floor was ceramic tile. It was the most reflective room I've ever played, like playing in a reverb chamber. I used an amps stand to tilt my Z28 MKII back and it helped. I also used one at an outdoor gig under a gazebo that was on a concrete pad. I bounced off the roof and out into the park, and it worked out great. But in any venue with 'normal' conditions I always put it on the floor.
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Post by djcakadave on Nov 5, 2022 19:06:07 GMT -7
Well dummy me? I've had my Z-master sitting on top of my Nova for months after reading this post I moved it to the floor and I'm really enjoying the difference! I guess I better move some other things around now that I think about it?
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Post by adam on Nov 6, 2022 4:24:19 GMT -7
I sometimes add or remove the wheels to a couple of 4x12's depending on how the low end is working with a given amp. Those 2" off the floor can make a big difference, good or bad either way. Probably have done that 10 times in the last couple years and every time I do it, I think I must be insane.
Personally, the amp on a tilt back stand always sounds horrible to me.
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Post by bubs42 on Nov 6, 2022 5:49:23 GMT -7
I never had a problem, when I ran my combos into an extension cab and had the combo on top. So when I didn’t need the extra cab, I just build a box out of pine braced it and stuffed it full of padding to deaden the sound. Put a handle on top of it and your good to go.
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