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Post by LT on Sept 4, 2022 15:11:00 GMT -7
I just got one. First impression of the presets were they were over the top with way more delay level than I would use. Also, the dual delay settings rendered many of them not usable to me. I decided to send it back to Sweetwater.
A few hours later, I went back and started digging into the knobbies. My goal was to find 2 settings to use live.....one similar to the delay I've been using (Dunlop Echoplex) and one a little more complex for lead tones. I'm quickly finding those sounds.....the first being a straight delay with the tone brighter, a little less feedback and a little less delay mix. The second is their version of the Rockman 300/500 ms dual delay....again, less mix and less feedback.
I haven't gigged it yet, and I'm not going to sell the Echoplex yet, but so far, I'm liking it. Glad I took the time to dig in and see what this box can do.
If any of you are looking for a relatively simple, but versatile delay, check it out.
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Post by LT on Sept 16, 2022 18:08:37 GMT -7
UPDATE......gigging it tomorrow night. I settled on the Echoplex type delay and the "Halo" delay, but with the mix dialed way back. Sounds almost like I have a verb and delay on. I'll report back how it translates to the stage.
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Post by doctorice on Sept 17, 2022 8:36:25 GMT -7
Lou,
I hope to gig mine tonight at a jam session. Like you, I dial the mix down. I think it's a great sounding delay and it's got pretty much everything I'd normally use.
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Post by LT on Sept 18, 2022 6:34:23 GMT -7
Gigged it last night. Big stage in a medium size, fairly lively room. I found me dialing the mix back up somewhat from where I thought I'd like it. The "Halo" setting is really complex, but sits very nicely in the background for lead work. Highly recommended!
Mike.....let us know your thoughts.
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Post by doctorice on Sept 18, 2022 8:59:11 GMT -7
I did go the slapback route last night. It was a backline set up. I missed my Zs, but got many compliments on playing and tone. None of the songs really had a place for "big delay", though.
The Halo setting is, for me, a revelation on what can be done with a good delay set up. It is a very cool box. I get why folks end up with two (or more) delay pedals on a board even when at least one delay has presets.
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Post by detuned on Sept 19, 2022 7:54:10 GMT -7
i have one in the Sweetwater "Andy Apple Red" (I'm a sucker for red pedals). I bought it to replace a pile of stereo delay pedals I tried and flipped for various reasons.
The thing to bear in mind about the delay levels is that Andy controls his with an external pedal, so it's no wonder they're over the top right out of the box. You can dial yours back no problem and and save it that way too, or get an expression pedal. I'm thinking about doing that too. The trick is balancing how simple the pedal is versus the desire to have better control over how much echo there is. The delay level (for any pedal, not just the Halo) can seem to vary greatly depending on the venue. What works on the rehearsal room might not when you're out at a gig. That's happened to me more than once.
I've also heard the early run of these were picky about the power you fed them on startup, but I haven't encountered that. And Keeley stepped up and offered to fix or replace any defective units, so there's that.
I think it sounds great, it's easier than most stereo mult-dlays to program, and if I want a "stunt delay" with whackier sounds, I can always use my Flashback.
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Post by doctorice on Sept 20, 2022 7:34:24 GMT -7
Forgot to mention that the "hold" feature is pretty cool too.
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Post by LT on Sept 20, 2022 18:37:05 GMT -7
i have one in the Sweetwater "Andy Apple Red" (I'm a sucker for red pedals). I bought it to replace a pile of stereo delay pedals I tried and flipped for various reasons. The thing to bear in mind about the delay levels is that Andy controls his with an external pedal, so it's no wonder they're over the top right out of the box. You can dial yours back no problem and and save it that way too, or get an expression pedal. I'm thinking about doing that too. The trick is balancing how simple the pedal is versus the desire to have better control over how much echo there is. The delay level (for any pedal, not just the Halo) can seem to vary greatly depending on the venue. What works on the rehearsal room might not when you're out at a gig. That's happened to me more than once. I've also heard the early run of these were picky about the power you fed them on startup, but I haven't encountered that. And Keeley stepped up and offered to fix or replace any defective units, so there's that. I think it sounds great, it's easier than most stereo mult-dlays to program, and if I want a "stunt delay" with whackier sounds, I can always use my Flashback. I haven't encountered any power issues either. I'm using a TT CS6. I've gone the expression pedal route with my old Eventide Timefactor and while it's pretty cool, it's too complex for my feeble mind. You're right in that the Halo is super easy to adjust for the room and do a quick save. I really like that. It'a a keeper for sure for me.
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Post by smolder on Sept 20, 2022 18:48:58 GMT -7
I have one and love it. Yes, the default presets are over the top… and the learning curve is steep for a pedal. I run a wet / dry rig sort of… effects through a clean Fender and then straight to a DrZ. I use an Earnie Ball pan / volume pedal to level the effects against straight in. It gives me a similar control to an OBEL set up, without all the extra cable and stuff.
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Post by chesterbrown on Nov 10, 2022 21:59:12 GMT -7
I just got one myself. I’m having problems getting the expression pedal to work. I followed the instructions to a T. I spent 30 minutes and could not get it to work. Any suggestions? I have a dunlop x4 mini
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Post by LT on Nov 11, 2022 7:34:39 GMT -7
I just got one myself. I’m having problems getting the expression pedal to work. I followed the instructions to a T. I spent 30 minutes and could not get it to work. Any suggestions? I have a dunlop x4 mini I don't have a TRS pedal so I haven't tried it. I have been thinking though about buying one. I'm interested in hearing when you get to a solution what the issue was. Maybe contact Keeley support?
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Post by chesterbrown on Nov 11, 2022 8:48:49 GMT -7
Contacting them is my next step. FWIW I’ve had the same problem with my Stroman paddles. Not the exact issue but not functioning properly. Strymon Told me via email to send them a video of the problem which I have not done yet. Long story short it could be the Dunlap volume X mini That’s the issue
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