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Post by nick0 on May 4, 2022 16:39:18 GMT -7
I love my Jetta! It is being used in a live band setting as a pedal platform.
Does anyone have any speaker suggestions to give it a little "American" mid scooped tonal flavor? Particularly when running edge of breakup clean? Direct experience or theories are welcome!
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Post by purpletele on May 4, 2022 17:50:18 GMT -7
I love my Jetta! It is being used in a live band setting as a pedal platform. Does anyone have any speaker suggestions to give it a little "American" mid scooped tonal flavor? Particularly when running edge of breakup clean? Direct experience or theories are welcome! I just put a Celestion A Type in a friends Carvin, and I was really impressed. I have a spare that I was going to try with my Fendery amps and even my Z-Plus. |
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on May 4, 2022 18:05:44 GMT -7
+1000 on the Celestion A Type. I just put one in my MAZ 18NR, and it sounds great. I've had a G12H30 in there forever, and it sounds very, very good. But the A Type is a cool changeup, and it's a great speaker. It's got a sweet forward push in the mids that is really cool.
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Post by RickJames on May 4, 2022 18:43:22 GMT -7
Yeah……
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on May 4, 2022 19:39:29 GMT -7
I've always liked the Eminence Texas Heat.
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Post by nick0 on May 4, 2022 19:56:49 GMT -7
Just tried G12h30, Alnico Cream, z12, and Rola Celestion g12-65.
The G12h30 and Cream sound very good. Mids are definitely British sounding. Nice for sure, but not what I'm after.
For a more mid scooped tone, the z12 and g12-65 sounded really great! I'd probably give the upper hand to the g12-65 for a little bit more tightness.
I'm wondering how the A-type will sound. Also very curious on the Jensen Blackbird 40. I don't have either on had. Do I take a shot and buy one of those two or get another g12-65 to put in the combo? Hmmmm decisions decisions 🤔
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Post by nick0 on May 4, 2022 20:09:04 GMT -7
Also tried the Creamback and Eminence Wizard. Like the Alnico Cream and G12h30, sounds great but too mid forward for what I'm trying.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on May 5, 2022 10:34:22 GMT -7
I came here to recommend the A-Type, but I should probably qualify/explain it a little more. I have it in a Carr Skylark, and it yields really nice small-blackface/tweed tones in the right ways; but I don't feel a lot of huge low-end out of it. (Granted my amp doesn't have a lot of horsepower/wattage, so it could be that, too.) Meaning that it's got that sweetness & sparkle, and a little crunch, but it's not going to add low end (if you care about that) if your amp isn't already pumping it out.
The Texas Heat is also a capable British/American blended speaker--and in fact, I kind of liked the lighter Lil' Texas even better, too. The WGS G12C & G12C/S are also fantastic, as is the Eminence GA-SC64, and Doc's Z-12 is excellent as well.
We certainly do not live in an era of limited/low-quality speaker options... that is for sure.
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Post by nick0 on May 5, 2022 11:44:45 GMT -7
We certainly do not live in an era of limited/low-quality speaker options... that is for sure. Maybe that's why it's so hard. There are so many choices! When using the G12h30 as a reference, I'd like more bass, less mids, and a little more sparkle on the top end. I'm really glad you mentioned the bottom of the A-type. I'm now leaning hard toward the Blackbird 40. |
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Post by Ridgeback on May 5, 2022 12:01:27 GMT -7
I've always been a fan of the various flavors of the US voiced Weber A and F models. The descriptions on their web site have always been pretty spot on for me (after break in).
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Post by nicholas on May 5, 2022 12:31:36 GMT -7
For american type speakers I really like the BB40. I also find the WGS G12 C/S excellent. The WGS has a smooth cone and is very unique sounding / feeling.
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Post by simpleton on May 6, 2022 8:57:12 GMT -7
For american type speakers I really like the BB40. I also find the WGS G12 C/S excellent. The WGS has a smooth cone and is very unique sounding / feeling. I came here to say the same thing…..love that WGS G12 c/s. Great speaker. And they are Orange. |
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Post by hosscartwheel14 on May 12, 2022 11:14:53 GMT -7
Has anyone tried an Emenence Patriot series
Red White And Blues speaker with their Jetta?
I’m currently using a single 12 cab with my
Jetta head that’s loaded with a celestion
V-30 and it sounds pretty good but I’m considering trying
Out my R.W.B Patriot in that cabinet..
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Post by nick0 on May 12, 2022 11:50:45 GMT -7
Has anyone tried an Emenence Patriot series Red White And Blues speaker with their Jetta? I’m currently using a single 12 cab with my Jetta head that’s loaded with a celestion V-30 and it sounds pretty good but I’m considering trying Out my R.W.B Patriot in that cabinet.. I have not tried one. I do like Eminence though. I got my Jensen Blackbird 40 and it doesn't fit in the Jetta combo. I'll need to try and elongate the holes a bit with a round file. If that doesn't work, the search continues... |
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Post by detuned on May 13, 2022 7:00:38 GMT -7
Has anyone tried an Emenence Patriot series Red White And Blues speaker with their Jetta? I’m currently using a single 12 cab with my Jetta head that’s loaded with a celestion V-30 and it sounds pretty good but I’m considering trying Out my R.W.B Patriot in that cabinet.. I don't have a Jetta, but there's a Red, White & Blues in my Fuchs. I tried a LOT of speakers in that amp, but always end up back with that Eminence. Hope that helps! |
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Post by Fabio on May 13, 2022 8:01:11 GMT -7
nick0I just wanted to add an option, as if there wasn't enough already!! I really like the WGS line of speakers, I've tried and owned more of the British inspired ones, but for what you described, I would give the 12'' G12c/s a try. The description really sounds like a good option. WGS 12" G12C/S - 75 WATTS
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Post by hosscartwheel14 on May 13, 2022 12:03:37 GMT -7
Yeah I like the WGS speakers as well.
I had a 2x12 cab with WGS speakers in it..
A Veteran 30 and a Reaper HP..great sounding
cab!!
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Post by nick0 on May 13, 2022 14:18:30 GMT -7
These are all great suggestions. So many wonderful speakers.
Am I all alone in seeing the Jetta's potential as a more American flavored platform? Maybe I'm trying to make it something it's not meant to be. Sure, I could use my Cure. It does a great job. But I have fallen in love with the Jetta's huge range of volume, it's headroom, it's transparency and openness.
After a little work with a file, the Blackbird 40 went right in. I like the way it sounds a lot! I ran some a/b with it and the Rola Celestion g12-65. The Jensen had more top end chime, sparkle, and articulation. It allowed me to turn the tone control down from max to about 4:00. This allows the amp to run a little cleaner while still having the top end I want. The low end doesn't shake the pick bowl, but it's nice and tight. The Celestion has an overall fuller sound. A touch less chime but much more low end boom. But the lows aren't muddy, they stay clear.
Both sound excellent. I'm going to leave the Jensen in the combo for now. Trying it with some drives, modulation, and time based effects over the weekend. It's also coming to jam night. I'm thinking the Blackbird's less full but more focused sound and articulation will work great in a band context. If it was strictly playing at home, the Celestion might win the day. However, an extended low end doesn't usually translate into something usable when the band it jamming imo.
I'll report back after this weekend.
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Post by nick0 on May 13, 2022 14:33:49 GMT -7
hosscartwheel14If you give that red white and blues a shot, please let me know!
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Post by hosscartwheel14 on May 16, 2022 17:58:29 GMT -7
Tried the Red White and Blues in a closed
back cab and after dialing it in it sounded good..
Would like to try it in an open backed cab
as well..
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Post by nick0 on May 16, 2022 19:01:38 GMT -7
Tried the Red White and Blues in a closed back cab and after dialing it in it sounded good.. Would like to try it in an open backed cab as well.. Great! Glad to hear you liked it. My initial assessment of the Blackbird vs the G12-65 was a little indecisive. After trying the Blackbird with a bunch of drives and effects. I liked it more in the Jetta. Then, I took it to jam night and it was even better in a band mix. I just got done a/b 'ing it with full effects against the G12-65 at home. The Blackbird in the Jetta wins hands down for what I'm after! It takes drives really well. It gets a crispy crunch on the top end when throwing a bunch of gain at it. Doesn't get harsh. Keeps a deep bottom and doesn't fart out. Really stays articulate. Nice alnico compression and chime. Great speaker for a great amp! Goes to show that sometimes a speaker’s character doesn't fully reveal itself until running it with full effects, drives, and in a band mix. |
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Post by RickJames on May 16, 2022 19:12:33 GMT -7
I still prefer doc s stock speaker
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Post by nick0 on May 16, 2022 19:13:04 GMT -7
I also want to add that the reduced weight is a definite plus as well!
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Post by nick0 on May 16, 2022 19:15:42 GMT -7
I still prefer doc s stock speaker The G12h30 is a great speaker in that amp and is very versatile! I was going for a little different sound and had something specific in mind. I wanted to see if the Jetta can get a little more Fender ish and retain its HiFi loveliness. It can and does! However, absolutely NOTHING wrong with the tone outta that amp with the stock speaker. |
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Post by Rockerfeller on May 18, 2022 7:42:42 GMT -7
I still prefer doc s stock speaker The G12h30 is a great speaker in that amp and is very versatile! I was going for a little different sound and had something specific in mind. I wanted to see if the Jetta can get a little more Fender ish and retain its HiFi loveliness. It can and does! However, absolutely NOTHING wrong with the tone outta that amp with the stock speaker. What about the Dr. Z 12" |
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Post by nick0 on May 18, 2022 9:25:30 GMT -7
The G12h30 is a great speaker in that amp and is very versatile! I was going for a little different sound and had something specific in mind. I wanted to see if the Jetta can get a little more Fender ish and retain its HiFi loveliness. It can and does! However, absolutely NOTHING wrong with the tone outta that amp with the stock speaker. What about the Dr. Z 12" The Z 12 is another great sounding speaker when I tried it with the Jetta. Picking the Z12 or Blackbird would just be a matter of personal taste. I hear that alnico attitude in the Blackbird. Maybe a little more articulation in the top end. A little more compression. The Blackbird weight is less if that matters. So many great options available! |
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Post by glumlord on Nov 24, 2022 12:21:05 GMT -7
Has anyone tried an EVM style speaker in the Jetta? I’m thinking something with a lot of clarity and headroom might sound great with this amp.
Would something like the Eminence EM12 even fit with the big cast frame?
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Post by nick0 on Nov 24, 2022 16:30:27 GMT -7
Has anyone tried an EVM style speaker in the Jetta? I’m thinking something with a lot of clarity and headroom might sound great with this amp. Would something like the Eminence EM12 even fit with the big cast frame? I don't have any experience with that speaker. If you try it, let us know! |
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Post by oowl on Aug 14, 2023 21:30:45 GMT -7
We certainly do not live in an era of limited/low-quality speaker options... that is for sure. Maybe that's why it's so hard. There are so many choices! When using the G12h30 as a reference, I'd like more bass, less mids, and a little more sparkle on the top end. I'm really glad you mentioned the bottom of the A-type. I'm now leaning hard toward the Blackbird 40. I've tried the Z-12 with a few Z amps (though not the Jetta) and it imparts its own American sound and was great in all of them. I think it would fill your needs, except in the lows. I doubt that speaker has more lows than 12H30. |
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Post by nick0 on Aug 23, 2023 17:45:57 GMT -7
Maybe that's why it's so hard. There are so many choices! When using the G12h30 as a reference, I'd like more bass, less mids, and a little more sparkle on the top end. I'm really glad you mentioned the bottom of the A-type. I'm now leaning hard toward the Blackbird 40. I've tried the Z-12 with a few Z amps (though not the Jetta) and it imparts its own American sound and was great in all of them. I think it would fill your needs, except in the lows. I doubt that speaker has more lows than 12H30. I ended up with a Blackbird 40 in there for a while. It had some good character to it but was missing something. Long story short. Took it to Don. He educated me, sprinkled some of his magic dust on the amp, and strongly suggested i put the G12h30 back in. I did so and the amp is filled out more than I ever could have hoped for! Unmatched customer service from Dr Z amps! |
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