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Post by helmi on May 2, 2022 8:13:55 GMT -7
OK, I’m bored, so humor me. We are taught to read and view most things from left to right. so why on almost all pedals is the input on the right, and the output on the left, which causes most of us to set up our pedal boards from right to left, opposite of the normal flow of things. Is there a specific reason why pedal builders do this that I have never heard, or am I missing something here?
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Post by BritInvasion on May 2, 2022 9:18:36 GMT -7
Basic stuff. When the electromagnetic signal is induced from the right it sounds better. More transparent flow of electrons.
Hope this helps.....
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on May 2, 2022 9:40:58 GMT -7
This is just my "I have no real technical idea but is an idea that makes sense" thought on this. The majority of guitar players are right handed. Thus the cable will naturally be going out the guitar on the righthand side. So it would keep the cable more "out of the way" by going into the pedal on the right side instead of the left. Now left handed guitar players....well you're out of luck. lol. Seriously though, for the most part they have to build primarly with the right handed players in mind, since they are more common.
Now is this the true reason? Who knows. lol. But it makes sense anyway.
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Post by KeithA on May 2, 2022 10:00:44 GMT -7
This is just my "I have no real technical idea but is an idea that makes sense" thought on this. The majority of guitar players are right handed. Thus the cable will naturally be going out the guitar on the righthand side. So it would keep the cable more "out of the way" by going into the pedal on the right side instead of the left. Now left handed guitar players....well you're out of luck. lol. Seriously though, for the most part they have to build primarly with the right handed players in mind, since they are more common. Now is this the true reason? Who knows. lol. But it makes sense anyway. Makes sense. As well, if you think about it, most would hold the neck of the guitar, while hanging on the strap, with their left hand while they could fiddle with pedals, cables, etc., with their right one.
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Post by helmi on May 2, 2022 11:00:18 GMT -7
Basic stuff. When the electromagnetic signal is induced from the right it sounds better. More transparent flow of electrons. Hope this helps..... Are you trying to slide a fast one by me?
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Post by BritInvasion on May 2, 2022 13:00:06 GMT -7
Basic stuff. When the electromagnetic signal is induced from the right it sounds better. More transparent flow of electrons. Hope this helps..... Are you trying to slide a fast one by me? Well, I do have a "BS" degree LOL!
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Post by "Z" Steve on May 2, 2022 14:14:38 GMT -7
Basic stuff. When the electromagnetic signal is induced from the right it sounds better. More transparent flow of electrons. Hope this helps..... Are you trying to slide a fast one by me? HEY MAN!!! ERIC JOHNSON SAYS IT SOUNDS BEST THAT WAY, SO THERE!!
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 2, 2022 14:19:54 GMT -7
OK, I’m bored, so humor me. We are taught to read and view most things from left to right. so why on almost all pedals is the input on the right, and the output on the left, which causes most of us to set up our pedal boards from right to left, opposite of the normal flow of things. Is there a specific reason why pedal builders do this that I have never heard, or am I missing something here? Also, why always put the ins and outs on the sides of the pedals? How about the top so it matters less which direction it goes? BTW - I’m a right handed player but a LEFT footed pedal pusher. Drives me crazy how the inputs and outputs vary pedal to pedal. Also, is there any good reason we still use “big” 1/4” patch cables? Why not Cat5 or some other smaller gauge, flat cable and smaller connector?
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on May 2, 2022 18:03:03 GMT -7
Also, is there any good reason we still use “big” 1/4” patch cables? Why not Cat5 or some other smaller gauge, flat cable and smaller connector? I think it's a guy thing.
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Post by zpilot on May 3, 2022 9:20:37 GMT -7
OK, I’m bored, so humor me. We are taught to read and view most things from left to right. so why on almost all pedals is the input on the right, and the output on the left, which causes most of us to set up our pedal boards from right to left, opposite of the normal flow of things. Is there a specific reason why pedal builders do this that I have never heard, or am I missing something here? Also, why always put the ins and outs on the sides of the pedals? How about the top so it matters less which direction it goes? BTW - I’m a right handed player but a LEFT footed pedal pusher. Drives me crazy how the inputs and outputs vary pedal to pedal. Also, is there any good reason we still use “big” 1/4” patch cables? Why not Cat5 or some other smaller gauge, flat cable and smaller connector? The answer is that it is a rugged and simple to use design. It goes way back almost 150 years to the beginning of telephone design by Western Electric. It is easy to insert and makes a positive connection. I can't imagine trying to insert any other type of plug into the jack on the bottom of my Telecaster or Les Paul. It just makes sense for guitars and as long as that is so guitar cables will have them at both ends so you don't have to fiddle with incompatible connectors.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 3, 2022 9:25:52 GMT -7
I "somewhat" get 1/4" cables for the guitar (although I've wonder why not XLRs) ... but for pedals? they tend not to move around much and don't get that much abuse (unless you're Neil Young). We send all manner of data and audio over much smaller cables in other contexts. It would sure make wiring a pedalboard a lot easier, and not require so much "pedal real estate" for the in's and out's.
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Post by zpilot on May 3, 2022 10:05:06 GMT -7
XLR's require that they be rotated to the proper position. Just that much more difficult unless you are actually looking at the connection. I bought into the "smaller footprint" pedal thing for a short time until I realized that cramming pedals so close together made it difficult to step on an individual switch so they need to be spread out a certain distance anyway. Pancake-style 1/4" plugs don't add any more space than that and there are some good even lower profile cables. There is NO low profile XLR.
The only connector I have ever seen that I thought was an improvement was a style I saw a few years ago that used neo mags to hold it in contact. All you had to do was hold it close to the receptacle and the magnets snapped it into position. It was handy but considerably more expensive than the standard phone style. And there you have it. Cost. Not only of the connector but the assembly process.
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Post by dcarver on May 3, 2022 15:23:49 GMT -7
... BTW - I’m a right handed player but a LEFT footed pedal pusher. ... Me too, I can't hit that little switch worth beans with my right foot.
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Post by helmi on May 3, 2022 16:09:14 GMT -7
I bought into the "smaller footprint" pedal thing for a short time until I realized that cramming pedals so close together made it difficult to step on an individual switch so they need to be spread out a certain distance anyway. I couldn’t agree more. I have a 11-1/2 wide foot. the mini pedal, pedalboard would never work for me.
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Post by dixiechicken on May 5, 2022 3:24:51 GMT -7
DC here!
I'd go with this explantion - it may be correct - who knows for sure - lols.
Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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