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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 14, 2022 5:31:09 GMT -7
A posting I just saw on Reverb. Someone trying to take advantage of the current tube market... EL34's posted on Reverb
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 14, 2022 7:45:53 GMT -7
There's a sucker born every minute ......
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Post by Russell B on Mar 14, 2022 8:07:25 GMT -7
That's ridiculous! I surely hope no one buys those!
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Post by KeithA on Mar 14, 2022 8:13:57 GMT -7
That's ridiculous! I surely hope no one buys those! I'm sure the asking price (open to offers) is just to attract attention. However, it may be just an attempt to see what he can get
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 14, 2022 8:17:24 GMT -7
And of course the classic, "have my bud put it in their Reverb cart to make it look like someone is wanting to actually buy it at that price", tactic appears to be in play as well.
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Post by pcns on Mar 14, 2022 9:16:15 GMT -7
I just checked one of my distributors, no price spikes there for the same tube
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Post by nicholas on Mar 14, 2022 10:03:45 GMT -7
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Post by dcarver on Mar 14, 2022 10:55:16 GMT -7
LISTING SUSPENDED. ooops. Wonder if they got him for attempted price gouging.
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Post by helmi on Mar 14, 2022 14:54:33 GMT -7
There’s a special place in Hell for people like that.
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Post by Don A on Mar 14, 2022 15:02:42 GMT -7
I have a 1980s Laney AOR 100 watt head on my bench that could use power tubes. I had the owner get it to me as quickly as possible and then I diagnosed it as quickly as possible so I could order a matched quartet of EL34s for it. We weren't quick enough! He's going to try a quartet of KT77s that I found.
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 14, 2022 15:09:32 GMT -7
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Post by KeithA on Mar 14, 2022 15:26:34 GMT -7
Ohhhh that's you!! Yeah, maybe just a tad bit much!!! No, these are JJs…The TADs would go for more !
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 14, 2022 15:27:33 GMT -7
Ohhhh that's you!! Yeah, maybe just a tad bit much!!! No, these are JJs…The TADs would go for more ! Touche, my friend. Touche!!!
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Post by adam on Mar 14, 2022 15:50:26 GMT -7
From my humble point of view, I think the general public is worrying about this more than they need to. First off, if you are looking to buy a 40+ year old amp and it has the original tubes, that's generally a very good thing. I'm not sure I've ever had tubes replaced and said to myself "that's way better than before". It's usually the opposite, or maybe "sounds pretty much the same".
My other thought is how many hours per week do normal musicians really put into playing tube amps? Probably not a whole lot. Even when I was playing every friday/satruday with my blues deville, that was probably 10 hours per week tops. Bought that new in 93 and I bet if I had never changed tubes, they'd still be fine. Also gigged a splawn quick rod for years of pretty heavy use and changed the power tubes after about 12 years, and yeah, the amp sounded the same when complete. Original preamp tubes, sounds great.
Got a set of 6v6's for my used 2009 remedy because I don't have any spares of those. Looks like those tubes are all original. Put in the new tubes to test them, amp sounded great. Put the old tubes back in, sounded great. Maybe they sounded a little different, I don't know, but amp sounds killer either way.
So what to do - you could get a transistor amp. I used a Roland blues cube for a while gigging and in the format of that band and in context, it actually sound better to the band as a whole. Go figure. Dug out my old Roland jc120 the other day... holy crap is that a piece of hit compared to what I've gotten used to with the Z amps. A more realistic scenario would be some kind of modeler. You'll get ok sounds and they will do the job for a time (until those guys can't get chips which also could be right around the corner).
Basically.. don't worry about it. This stuff will work itself out. If the sanctions dictate that so and so country won't export tubes, if it goes on long enough, it will provide an opportunity from someone else to step in and make tubes. Until then though, if you have one tube amp with no spares, there are a bazillion tubes out there that you'll be able to get it from somewhere to make your amp work.
Lastly, life is way too short to worry about this stuff. It will be ok. We are fed this fear at every consuming angle because.... people make money doing that. We tune in to find out what we should wary of and plan for, and there has to be some kind of survival instinct to that which is normal, but people capitalize on that too. Just be aware of that.
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 14, 2022 17:59:05 GMT -7
From my humble point of view, I think the general public is worrying about this more than they need to. First off, if you are looking to buy a 40+ year old amp and it has the original tubes, that's generally a very good thing. I'm not sure I've ever had tubes replaced and said to myself "that's way better than before". It's usually the opposite, or maybe "sounds pretty much the same". My other thought is how many hours per week do normal musicians really put into playing tube amps? Probably not a whole lot. Even when I was playing every friday/satruday with my blues deville, that was probably 10 hours per week tops. Bought that new in 93 and I bet if I had never changed tubes, they'd still be fine. Also gigged a splawn quick rod for years of pretty heavy use and changed the power tubes after about 12 years, and yeah, the amp sounded the same when complete. Original preamp tubes, sounds great. Got a set of 6v6's for my used 2009 remedy because I don't have any spares of those. Looks like those tubes are all original. Put in the new tubes to test them, amp sounded great. Put the old tubes back in, sounded great. Maybe they sounded a little different, I don't know, but amp sounds killer either way. So what to do - you could get a transistor amp. I used a Roland blues cube for a while gigging and in the format of that band and in context, it actually sound better to the band as a whole. Go figure. Dug out my old Roland jc120 the other day... holy crap is that a piece of hit compared to what I've gotten used to with the Z amps. A more realistic scenario would be some kind of modeler. You'll get ok sounds and they will do the job for a time (until those guys can't get chips which also could be right around the corner). Basically.. don't worry about it. This stuff will work itself out. If the sanctions dictate that so and so country won't export tubes, if it goes on long enough, it will provide an opportunity from someone else to step in and make tubes. Until then though, if you have one tube amp with no spares, there are a bazillion tubes out there that you'll be able to get it from somewhere to make your amp work. Lastly, life is way too short to worry about this stuff. It will be ok. We are fed this fear at every consuming angle because.... people make money doing that. We tune in to find out what we should wary of and plan for, and there has to be some kind of survival instinct to that which is normal, but people capitalize on that too. Just be aware of that. Much agreed. I personally have more than enough tubes to last me with my Cure. I honestly have purchased a few more tubes of different variants to get me through, in case I purchase another amp or two in the next year or so. That being said, I think this whole thing will eventually work itself out. Even if EHX moves operations to another country. I just find it sad that people are trying to take advantage of the situation to try to make a quick buck.
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Post by driventone on Mar 15, 2022 19:36:50 GMT -7
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 15, 2022 19:46:21 GMT -7
But it came out of a 1965 Bandmaster...That HAS to be worth something, right???
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Post by zpilot on Mar 16, 2022 14:12:45 GMT -7
I just heard from a gear manufacturer, but have not confirmed, that EHX announced today the export ban on Russian tubes has been been resolved for now. Regardless, my conscience won't allow me to buy any at least until the current crisis is resolved.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Mar 16, 2022 16:52:10 GMT -7
I’ve got a 1930’s GE radio … I’ve got to see what tubes are in there 🤪🤪
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Post by helmi on Mar 16, 2022 17:30:31 GMT -7
I’ve got a 1930’s GE radio … I’ve got to see what tubes are in there 🤪🤪 That would be neat to find out.
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Post by rudeboy on Mar 16, 2022 18:07:43 GMT -7
I’ve got a 1930’s GE radio … I’ve got to see what tubes are in there 🤪🤪 That would be neat to find out. Probably a 50C5, 35W4, 12AV6, 12BA6, and a 12BE6. These are the most common in AA5 radios anyway. This from my limited radio work. Mostly post war Baklite table tops. There are tons of variants out there...none of course cross over to guitar amps. The good news is with old radios it's pretty rare to need to change tubes as their falure rate is so low. I buy when I need them and most for for about 5 bucks each for NOS.
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Post by loucardguitar (Johnathan) on Mar 16, 2022 19:23:19 GMT -7
I just heard from a gear manufacturer, but have not confirmed, that EHX announced today the export ban on Russian tubes has been been resolved for now. Regardless, my conscience won't allow me to buy any at least until the current crisis is resolved. I get ya. And I'm honestly good for a long time myself. For new production tubes I'm in a spot where I can wait for J.J.'s production to be ramped up. With NOS tubes and such, the only way I wouldn't be good for my lifetime is if I happen to get a few more amps. Well...I believe we all know how that will turn out though....Ha!! Seriously though I'm going to be in a good spot no matter what.
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Post by zpilot on Mar 16, 2022 20:49:07 GMT -7
That would be neat to find out. Probably a 50C5, 35W4, 12AV6, 12BA6, and a 12BE6. These are the most common in AA5 radios anyway. This from my limited radio work. Mostly post war Baklite table tops. There are tons of variants out there...none of course cross over to guitar amps. The good news is with old radios it's pretty rare to need to change tubes as their falure rate is so low. I buy when I need them and most for for about 5 bucks each for NOS. Last time I shopped around there was a good supply of those types of tubes and prices were not bad. Not likely to change much because that is a very small market.
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Post by driventone on Mar 16, 2022 22:41:15 GMT -7
With NOS tubes and such, the only way I wouldn't be good for my lifetime is if I happen to get a few more amps. Well...I believe we all know how that will turn out though....Ha!! Oh, man... I know that feeling! I'm over here looking for backup tubes just IN CASE I want a Jetta There's always ONE MORE amp...
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Post by driventone on Mar 16, 2022 22:50:24 GMT -7
I'm starting to realize how much NOS and good used tubes are out there if you look around. Maybe this situation will bring some hoarders out of the woodwork, because they see an opportunity to sell?
I was looking for stuff for my '62 Deluxe and '67 Vibro Champ because I had no backup power and rectifier tubes, and I was really lucky and found a guy on CL who has a big stash of tubes near me in California. His house had so many tubes and so much equipment it was overwhelming. He's a HiFi hobbyist, and he also has a fair amount tubes good for guitar amps.
Excellent stuff, very fair prices. I ended up walking out with an ANOS Mullard Amperex Bugle Boy 5AR4/GZ34, a matched trio of NOS Sylvania 6V6GT's, a matched ANOS pair of RCA 6V6GT's, a USA Tung-Sol 6V6GT, an Edicron (cheap spare for testing) 5AR5/GZ34, a used GE 5Y3GT, and 2 1952 USA Tung-Sol 12AX7's. I was beyond happy.
(If he had an online store, I would post info here, but he only wants to deal locally, in person.)
I was encouraged - there's still a lot of great old stuff out there.
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