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Post by zpilot on Sept 15, 2020 23:57:09 GMT -7
Anyone have experience with an Eminence Texas Heat? I'm thinking of putting one in a Deluxe Reverb cabinet to use for a variety of styles. Classic Country to Classic Rock and mostly with a Tele. I'm looking for something similar to a Z-12 but that will handle more power and still not get too ragged. Something I can play faux steel licks through also.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Sept 16, 2020 6:36:39 GMT -7
The Texas Heat is a good versatile speaker, but it'll get a little fat & crunchy on you pretty easily. (And I sense that's not what you're intending?) I would suggest maybe the WGS G12C (regular, not the /S version) which can handle 75 W and sounds naturally "at home" in a Deluxe Reverb, which of course could suit Teles or faux-steel perfectly well.
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Post by zpilot on Sept 16, 2020 7:51:59 GMT -7
The Texas Heat is a good versatile speaker, but it'll get a little fat & crunchy on you pretty easily. (And I sense that's not what you're intending?) I would suggest maybe the WGS G12C (regular, not the /S version) which can handle 75 W and sounds naturally "at home" in a Deluxe Reverb, which of course could suit Teles or faux-steel perfectly well. Do they compress much when pushed? Say with 50 watts or so? I have a C-Gold and I like it with most amps but not so much a DR because of the way Alnico compresses. DR's seem to have a fair amount of compression already and I don't need more. |
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Sept 16, 2020 9:36:25 GMT -7
The Texas Heat is a good versatile speaker, but it'll get a little fat & crunchy on you pretty easily. (And I sense that's not what you're intending?) I would suggest maybe the WGS G12C (regular, not the /S version) which can handle 75 W and sounds naturally "at home" in a Deluxe Reverb, which of course could suit Teles or faux-steel perfectly well. Do they compress much when pushed? Say with 50 watts or so? I have a C-Gold and I like it with most amps but not so much a DR because of the way Alnico compresses. DR's seem to have a fair amount of compression already and I don't need more. Well, the Texas Heat has a big ol' 2-in. voice coil, so I think most of the breakup is going to be cone-breakup. So I'd say good luck getting that thing to really compress under moderate wattage. ALTHOUGH, it's not a high-sensitivity (as in dB/W loudness output) speaker, so there's that too. Wish I still had both of those speakers to compare for you, but alas I do not. Although, from a "fondness" perspective, I'd say I miss the G12C more since I thought it was a great Fender-style speaker (as good as my ol' Weber 12F150, even). |
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Post by bubs42 on Sept 16, 2020 18:38:15 GMT -7
I really like the Texas Heat, I switch between the Texas Heat and the CV65. The Texas Heat isn't going to get ragged, but it with take overdrive very well and grind with the best of them. I just got a Z Verb and i'm thinking of putting it back in again for some fun.
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Post by detuned on Sept 17, 2020 10:03:32 GMT -7
I actually have one in a Deluxe-sized cabinet someone (not me) re-homed a '65 Bandmaster head in. So, sort of a 40 watt Deluxe (no reverb).
Sounds great, and does what a Fender combo should. I don't notice it being overly crunchy, but haven't had to really open it up yet. 40 watts in this day and age, after all...
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Sept 17, 2020 18:10:32 GMT -7
The Texas Heat is one of my favorite speakers, because it works well with a wide variety of amps. I think it would do well in a Deluxe. It does have a little bit of midrange push, which I like. Maybe call it a hint of British. If you want a whole lot of Fender scoop it may take a bit of that away. If you want to keep all of that Fender scoop and are going to do those clean faux pedal steel licks, you might want to look into the Swamp Thang. It's got a bigger, though not by much, midrange scoop than the Texas Heat. Also has a bit more bass and a bit more highs. I had one in a Z-28 for a time and it pushed it more into the Fender camp. It's around 3db louder than the Texas Heat, if that's a consideration. You may also want to look into the Cannabus Rex and Red White and Blues. I like the Texas Heat and Swamp Thang better than the Cannabus Rex. Haven't played through a Red White and Blues. To me, they all sound like variations on a theme. If you want to go with neodymium the Lil Texas is really close to the Texas Heat, maybe a smidge less of that midrange push and a smidge more highs, and only weighs in at around 4 lbs. It would make a Deluxe pretty much feather weight. I had a Tonkerlite in a Deluxe and really liked it. It does give the Deluxe a hint of British flavor, which I like. I have this thing where I like British speakers in American voiced amps and American Speakers in British voiced. Check out the sound samples on the Eminence site. They can give you a pretty good idea of how they sound and compare.
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Post by bubs42 on Sept 18, 2020 8:19:14 GMT -7
That is some great information, Marc knows were its at. I was not a fan of the RWB's until I sold a cabinet which was a Marshall 18 Style Mathers Cab. I buyer wanted a speaker so I put the RWBs in that cab and ran my Budda SD30 into it with the Mid Pull out (scoops the mids a bit) and it was a wonderful full cleans, I put some verb on and it was glorious Mark Knopfler tones.
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Post by zpilot on Sept 25, 2020 20:59:08 GMT -7
So, I went with the Texas Heat. After about 12 hours on the Variac to break it in I got to try it at rehearsal last night for a bit. It pretty much does what I was after but I won't know for sure until I use it at the gig tomorrow. It will be outdoors and I'll be pushing it with 50 watts so it will be a good test. I know how I am though. I won't be convinced until I get to play a couple of other speakers that were suggested here. Probably an Emi RW&B. I was surprised at how stout the cone suspension on the Texas Heat was and how heavily doped it was. I suspect it will take a very long time and hard use to properly break it in.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Sept 26, 2020 8:16:24 GMT -7
Please give us a gig report.
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Post by zpilot on Sept 27, 2020 18:23:13 GMT -7
Mark was right about the Texas Heat. It stayed pretty clean and sweet up to a point. I would say 25-30 watts or so. After that it very quickly started to crunch. That is not what I expected from a speaker rated to take 150 watts. It did not compress much although I did not get it anywhere near it's full power rating. As long as I stayed under 30 watts it worked well for me and really I should not need to be any louder than that. I'll let it break in some more and see if it improves.
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