So I got this amp about two weeks ago and have only had the opportunity to play it at home at relatively low volume since then. I was a former Z-28 1x10 alnico gold player for the better part of 8 years and in the past 1-2 years have been playing a z-lux 1x12 combo with a z12 exclusively. I had to let the z28 go in a trade for a guitar and was in need of a second amp. One trade led to another and another and I eventually acquired this M12, and let me tell you, I’m so happy I did!
It reminds me a lot of my z28, and the ef86 just absolutely inhales my pedalboard. My Browne Amplification Protein and RYRA Klone sounds amazing through it. Haven’t had a chance to let my fuzzes loose on it at volume yet but I already know it’s gonna rip.
I watched the champions of chime video on premier guitar a few times and honest to God the m12 sounded better than any of the other amps they played by a long shot. I read a few reviews on TGP that claimed that the m12 was “anemic” and lacked character, but that is the opposite of what my experience has been so far. Eq is powerful and theres a ton of bottom end and chime available depending on how things are set.
The amp came with a 12 inch Chinese green back which I thought sounded nice clean, good edge of break up, but I wasn’t crazy about it cranked. I put a WGS et65 12 inch speaker in there and I’m extremely happy with it. The et65 sounds great with my z lux too. Just a great all around speaker. As far as speakers go, the only other ones I’m gonna wanna try are gonna be a Celestion alnico gold/cream/blue or a scumback of some sorts.
"Anemic and lacking character" is the mark of someone who hasn't actually had one, or heard one in person. At low volumes, mine is sweet and rich. The more you turn it up, the happier it gets. Yeesh.
That’s exactly what I noticed too. People say all sorts of bogus things on TGP. Sometimes I feel like laptops need to come standard with a breathalyzer
To be fair, sometimes people give up on a piece of gear before they figure out what makes it special. The M12 looks simple - 3 knobs, right? But the way the bass and treble works is deceptive (like a lot of the Doc's amps). Past noon and you start to get a near-boost experience. That's what unlocks the richness at lower volumes (IMO, anyway). The volume knob only makes things louder up till about noon (maybe 2). After that, it just gets more saturated. I can see someone trying to get a sound with the knobs turned low and wondering what the excitement's all about.
My Maz Jr was like that, too. At first, I was puzzled about why these amps were so hyped. But after a while, and adjusting the knobs based on what I was hearing, rather than "typical" settings, I figured it out!
roscoenyc: You know in school when they talked about "your permanent record"? Well, this is it! Learn to spell! Don't be stupid!
May 21, 2020 8:19:01 GMT -7
premiumplus (Dave): Due or do? Which or witch? Knob or nob? Their or there? Bass or base? Too much time on my hands...
May 24, 2020 6:31:30 GMT -7
roscoenyc: Ah, the incessant tire kickers. oh jeez.
May 25, 2020 6:57:46 GMT -7
GuitarZ: Needed some noise to fill a break in a tune I'm recording. It was too quiet. Just happened to have some High Quality Dr Z Ghia noise to fill the void. "Heal Your Sound with Dr Z! It's not just a guitar tone prescription!"
Jun 13, 2020 8:29:27 GMT -7
GuitarZ: Must be great to be a skunk. Eating bird food about 10' from our sun room. I'm clapping and yelling. At best, it might have given me one "yea what?" look while continuing to dine. At one point, there were two skunks and two racoons.
Jun 14, 2020 18:49:33 GMT -7
captainron (Ron): Hueter Toledo, just another business of today that doesn't care about tomorrow!
Jun 25, 2020 12:51:43 GMT -7
KeithA: Hueter Toledo....that business is gone to the dogs
Jun 26, 2020 8:22:26 GMT -7
easyed: Guitar Z, I encountered to ultimate garbage raiding combo once. We'd been having problems with the garbage cans being raided by raccoons for weeks. Late in the evening I heard rattling at the cans. I went out and found that he'd allied with a skunk. "OK"
Jun 30, 2020 11:40:27 GMT -7
GuitarZ: EasyEd - Someone at work topped us both. The inside of their car had been somewhat ransacked. They were blaming their son. They checked the video. It was a Bear! I'll stick with the racoons, skunks, foxes, and squirrels.
Jul 1, 2020 16:47:50 GMT -7
bigboki: In this age and time when everybody are struggling and especially S&Ms I am amazed to see that kind of ignorance. I am really sorry for your experience dear Dr Z but it is for the better. You don't want to do business with those kind of people anyway.
Jul 4, 2020 8:17:40 GMT -7
GuitarZ: Didn't want to restart the plumbing thread, so I figured I'd ShoutBox this. How the heck does cleaning the aerator on a faucet cause a leak to start under the faucet? Huh? Arggggh!!!!
Jul 10, 2020 7:40:17 GMT -7
The Bad Poodle Experience: well, Mike, it shouldn't have been the cause of a leak. double-check your work.
Jul 10, 2020 12:56:49 GMT -7
GuitarZ: I updated in the Plumbing thread that the Moen website says that a faulty aerator can cause a handle/base leak. Eiyy! I really don't understand how plumbing works. I was ready to double check all connections. But, the leaking stopped with cleaned Aerator.
Jul 11, 2020 18:13:56 GMT -7
jhen86 (jordan): Just got an email from Sweetwater rep that Z Wreck Jr's are back in stock. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.
Jul 28, 2020 10:57:28 GMT -7
Lefty: Say a prayer for me fellas, I'm going to replace a bathroom faucet this weekend.
Jul 30, 2020 8:26:34 GMT -7