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Post by GuitarZ on May 31, 2020 12:33:33 GMT -7
When this whole pandemic started, I was looking for some options to still connect with my jam-mates to do some remote mixing and maybe some jamming. I was lucky enough to get tracks from my drummer in Jan/Feb for two tunes. We've been doing remote mixing sessions where I mix, save to a file, process the file, and upload to my website. I remember finding a couple of options to live stream from my PC but decided not to try since I didn't want a yearlong subscription when I'd only be staying home for a few weeks. That's changed. I just revisited and audiomovers.com/ popped up. It's $99 for a year long subscription which doesn't sound too crazy at this point.. You basically drop it in as an effect module on your mains, and someone can pick up the stream via a website link. The latency is 100msec and you can stream PCM16 bit, PCM24 bit, PCM32 bit, AAC128, AAC192, etc. I was working on ducking the bass with side chain compression this week and popping in some EQ to quiet the bass' attack. It would have been cool to adjust parameters and get his ears involved live vs me just saving several options and sharing the mp3s. Any experience? I'm thinking Roscoe probably has some with it or with an alternative. I'll probably give the 7 day trial a shot. A YouTube video showed a music engineer using it and said it worked well in parallel with a Zoom call for video and talking. |
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Post by GuitarZ on Jun 3, 2020 17:02:02 GMT -7
Well, ... I'm going to guess 'no experience'. Not too surprised since this is probably more specific to folks mixing down music and such. It's not a product that would help with jamming and such.
I will probably give this a try next week and report back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 17:47:25 GMT -7
Both of my engineers have used it. I have been working a lot at home during the Covid but I haven’t really needed it...yet.
It seems to work best for “listening”
Not so good for actually overdubbing or doing edits on the other guy’s session but it seems to be great for close to “real time high def” listening.
Sorry for the delayed response. I’ve had my hands full.
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Post by GuitarZ on Jun 3, 2020 19:53:17 GMT -7
Both of my engineers have used it. I have been working a lot at home during the Covid but I haven’t really needed it...yet. It seems to work best for “listening” Not so good for actually overdubbing or doing edits on the other guy’s session but it seems to be great for close to “real time high def” listening. Sorry for the delayed response. I’ve had my hands full. No worries. That's good input. "Listening" is what we're targeting. I'd like to be able to play something quick, get my drummer's feedback, adjust, and then listen again. We'll see how it goes next week. Thank You. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 6:46:13 GMT -7
And then, a few minutes after writing back to you GuitarZ I have a drummer doing a remote overdub for me next week and we'll be using Audiomovers for that so I can "sit in" on the session with him. The way I understand it, it's pretty easy to use. You create an Aux Pair and then send that to whoever is listening. Even for the listening it seems a whole lot faster than bouncing out a mix, sending it to somebody, letting them know it's there, and then waiting for them to listen and get back to you. |
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Post by telebender on Jun 5, 2020 12:41:08 GMT -7
Cool. I'm interested in this as well. saw it on Eric Valentine's youtube channel. same application. I'm hoping to send a 2track for overdub then listen to the remote session real-time and work together on mic placement, mic/instrument selection, performance, etc. i guess each person would need a license? can't wait to hear some feedback!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 15:29:34 GMT -7
Cool. I'm interested in this as well. saw it on Eric Valentine's youtube channel. same application. I'm hoping to send a 2track for overdub then listen to the remote session real-time and work together on mic placement, mic/instrument selection, performance, etc. i guess each person would need a license? can't wait to hear some feedback! I don't think everybody needs a license. I think only the host needs one. I'm doing a remote session with a drummer on Monday. I'll have much more info about it after that. |
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Post by GuitarZ on Jun 9, 2020 11:36:25 GMT -7
I downloaded the software and started the seven day trial. I have a mixing session set up with my drummer for tonight. I did a quick test between my PC with my Cakewalk Sonar s/w and my laptop via teams. Neither endpoint knew they were on the same home network, so everything should have been going out to the grand old internet and back for a reasonable test. First impressions are "Very Cool". I was able to do talking audio, video, and screen sharing of my Sonar and hear 24 bit PCMM on the far end.  I'll report back after tonight although Eric already chimed in it's working for his studio. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 6:58:10 GMT -7
I used it on Monday in straight listen mode.
The drummer I had tracking his parts in Harlem sent me the Audiomovers link in (which seems to like the Chrome browser best btw)
I clicked on it and the page loaded with no login needed.
When he hit play up at his place I got 96/24 audio coming out of my rig at the same time.
I didn't use the screen share or video but it was a super time saver over having him print a mix, upload it for me, notify me, have me download and then import into my session.
I really liked it and will be using it again.
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Post by GuitarZ on Jun 10, 2020 7:46:57 GMT -7
Yup! Works as advertised. We did our mixing session last night. I was transmitting 44.1/24. We had video and screen sharing going via Zoom. Didn't really have any hiccups. (Well, it does take my drummer about 20 minutes to get sounds out of his rig. But, that seems to happen every time we get together. I think he needs to simplify.) It was great. We could make a minor tweak. Play it. Readjust. Etc. Two lessons learned (or tips) if you're doing mixing: - I added a delay after the ListenTo plugin. I was able to adjust the delay to match the latency transmitting to him and feeding back to me so that we were basically listening together and bleed through wasn't annoying. Zoom is pretty good at muting out the music although I realized a bit late in the session that I was hearing the bleed-through in my cans where I had thought my cans were music only and talking was in my speakers.
- Once you adjust something like sliding the kick drum to adjust feel, don't watch the screen/waveform while listening back since it's about a second ahead of what you're hearing. It was funny how that simple thing of watching the screen messed with your brain between seeing and hearing.
I wasn't even thinking of using it while tracking something until reading Eric's post. That's a great idea. I know my drummer would be more into it if I passed along tracks and had him record with me listening vs just doing it by himself in his studio. Gotta love the human element. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 12:05:45 GMT -7
Using it all day today for a mix session while printing to 1/2" analog.
Artist listening in from Baltimore and communicating through text. I can't even explain how this thing has sped up our workflow.
Paid for the annual license.
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Post by sharkboy on Jun 11, 2020 19:24:01 GMT -7
This sounds pretty amazing! Thank you for sharing this info.
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