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Post by Abandoned on May 11, 2020 20:50:41 GMT -7
What are some good OD pedals that work good with the Z Wreck Jr.?
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Post by purpletele on May 11, 2020 21:04:36 GMT -7
What are some good OD pedals that work good with the Z Wreck Jr.? The EQ Bypass, a Clean Boost, or a Timmy type pedal would be my way of working that amp.
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Post by Abandoned on May 12, 2020 4:35:56 GMT -7
I didn’t realize there’s a true bypass on this amp?
Can you explain how it works?
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Post by Russell B on May 12, 2020 4:52:24 GMT -7
There's not an EQ bypass on the Wreck Jr. Purpletele was just giving examples of how he likes to work his amps I think. I'm with him on a clean boost. But, I've gotten so used to not using effects, I'd rather turn the volume up on the amp to get the overdrive I want and use the guitar volume to turn down for clean sounds. The Jr. is very good at this. The amp has some great, smooth overdrive in it.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 6:19:16 GMT -7
I agree with Russell B here--the ZW Jr's natural tube overdrive is stellar, and while I have a pretty extensive array of OD pedals on hand, to me the ZW Jr is really at its best with just a touch of verb/delay and maybe a clean boost, or slightly dirty boost. But--for home playing where volume's an issue, I like the Jetter GS-124 as always; also the Paisley Drive or Paisley Deluxe is excellent, As is the Neo Drive In (a bargain pedal that seems to be based very closely on the original Zendrive circuit). Basically any soft-clipping OD that's reasonably transparent and doesn't compress too much should be a good fit. Lower gain settings will let you hear more of the amp in its natural glory.
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Post by tipper74 on May 16, 2020 23:20:47 GMT -7
Amp slightly overdriven with a earthquaker devices tone job(eq,clean boost) with the level up quite high works well for me,also mad Professor little green wonder the same. I’ve found the wreck jr takes a bit more experimenting than a Maz18 with pedals,has a stellar overdrive sound all of it’s own though!
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Post by jhen86 (jordan) on May 17, 2020 7:55:03 GMT -7
Hey Abandoned . I'd check the main Z wreck folder for what OD's guys like with that. I don't own a ZWJR would think anything in the lower gain boost/OD category would be fantastic. King of Tone Timmy Klon Any good clean boost Maybe a TS style or Zendrive for solos Also, anything that plays well with a Vox AC30 would likely be great as well, albeit a little less neutral/transparent. Thinking specifically... Treble Booster (maybe Beano Boost) Crowther HotCake
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on May 17, 2020 8:34:22 GMT -7
I don’t own a Wreck Jr but would say the best OD would be twist of the volume knob
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 8:41:31 GMT -7
Hey Abandoned . I'd check the main Z wreck folder for what OD's guys like with that. I don't own a ZWJR would think anything in the lower gain boost/OD category would be fantastic. King of Tone Timmy Klon Maybe a TS style or Zendrive for solos It's funny--of all of these pedals, the only one not currently made of unobtanium is the TS. Don't get me started on the KoT waitlist.
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Post by jhen86 (jordan) on May 17, 2020 9:08:31 GMT -7
HA! Very fair, @fleawreck. Those are just all pedals I have or have owned. Not a real Klon mind you Wasn't actually recommending a real klon (my mistake). I do like recommending those premium pedals though, just like I would recommend Z amps over other brands. And to be fair, there are unobtanium models of the TS and Zendrive. So your rub isn't totally merited. They are unobtainable for a reason (for better or worse, take it or leave it). Lots of people love them. Doesn't mean you have to buy one though. No need to get into the KOT waitlist on my account. Some more approachable models would be: Barber Gain Changer (can cover a ton of ground, and very affordable) Rockett Archer (klon) EH Soul Food (klon) Rockett Dude (Zendrive) Lovepedal Amp 11 (KOT alternative) Snouse Blackbox (KOT alternative) JHS Morning Glory (KOT alternative) Wampler Pantheon (KOT alternative) Lots of other great clean/dirty boosts from Keeley, Xotic, and many others. All those can likely be found for less than $150 today (either new or used)^^^ No need to spend big money on the unobtanium. 👍🏻
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Post by kfkm on May 17, 2020 17:49:43 GMT -7
Been using a Fulldrive 1 that works well but am thinking of ordering a Fulldrive 2 v2 to go with it. Mainly I just play my Wreck Jr through a Z Verb and use the volume knob.
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Post by DRZ on May 18, 2020 3:11:22 GMT -7
Hey Abandoned . I'd check the main Z wreck folder for what OD's guys like with that. I don't own a ZWJR would think anything in the lower gain boost/OD category would be fantastic. King of Tone Timmy Klon Any good clean boost Maybe a TS style or Zendrive for solos Also, anything that plays well with a Vox AC30 would likely be great as well, albeit a little less neutral/transparent. Thinking specifically... Treble Booster (maybe Beano Boost) Crowther HotCake Hey Jordan , don't worry about abandoned , he received his Z Wreck Jr. and put it up for sale in less than a hour. Was I the only one who knew that was coming ? Z
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Post by redtele on May 18, 2020 5:30:29 GMT -7
Abandoned by name, abandoned by nature..
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Post by Abandoned on May 19, 2020 7:46:59 GMT -7
Yeah I’m all good on this guys. Thanks for the help.
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Post by Abandoned on May 19, 2020 8:29:11 GMT -7
Hey Abandoned . I'd check the main Z wreck folder for what OD's guys like with that. I don't own a ZWJR would think anything in the lower gain boost/OD category would be fantastic. King of Tone Timmy Klon Any good clean boost Maybe a TS style or Zendrive for solos Also, anything that plays well with a Vox AC30 would likely be great as well, albeit a little less neutral/transparent. Thinking specifically... Treble Booster (maybe Beano Boost) Crowther HotCake Hey Jordan , don't worry about abandoned , he received his Z Wreck Jr. and put it up for sale in less than a hour. Was I the only one who knew that was coming ? Z This is simply incorrect / not true sir.
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Post by DRZ on May 19, 2020 9:47:22 GMT -7
Hey Jordan , don't worry about abandoned , he received his Z Wreck Jr. and put it up for sale in less than a hour. Was I the only one who knew that was coming ? Z This is simply incorrect / not true sir. But that is what you posted here and on the TGP emporium. No I knew with your many inquiry posts here and on other forums this wasn't the amp for you. You tried and it didn't fit. What isn't true sir, was it 2 hours ?
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Post by Abandoned on May 19, 2020 11:16:55 GMT -7
This is simply incorrect / not true sir. But that is what you posted here and on the TGP emporium. No I knew with your many inquiry posts here and on other forums this wasn't the amp for you. You tried and it didn't fit. What isn't true sir, was it 2 hours ? No disrespect at all sir and maybe I’m reading you wrong, but I don’t think I’m the only one reading it this way. I’m not sure I understand why you had the tone / negativity you did with me. I do understand me saying this may get me kicked from this forum (which I’ve enjoyed being on), but I don’t believe I have said anything negative about the Z Wreck Jr. at all on this forum or any other. Nor have I tried to portray any negativity towards the Z Wreck Jr. I apologize if my brief comment about playing it for a few hours meant disrespect, I was merely saying that for those who might be interested in it that I didn’t use it for a lot of time. Honestly - I don’t feel comfortable at this point sharing details about why I didn’t keep it as I feel I’m being approached negatively and didn’t appreciate the manner in which I was addressed. I didn’t even invite it. I would like to say this - the Z Wreck Jr. has great tone and feels wonderful. And I was still planning on writing a positive review for you (per your request to those on this forum) on Sweetwater’s website as I said I would. For those looking for a Z Wreck tone and/or a wonderful EL84, British type of response ... the Z Wreck would be a great fit for you.
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Post by DRZ on May 19, 2020 11:50:48 GMT -7
No disrespect taken, really. You're interpreting my straight and direct reply as a negative tone. I did read your many posts here and on TGP requesting opinions all the while noting your affection for Fender style amps, the Z Wreck Jr. is very far from a Fender toned amp IMHO. I realize it is difficult to shop in today's online market, you don't get a chance to really demo a piece. I few notes will tell way more then any demo video, review or gushing post. I do appreciate that you bought one, only to find it wasn't quite right for you, thanks for trying it out. That is truly the only way you know exactly how it sounds with you plugged in. 33 years has shortened my patience , I lost my salesman stick ,( if I ever really had any ), and sometimes I appear a bit rude when its not my intention. Some days the old man " get off my lawn " comes out as hard as I try and suppress it.
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Post by helmi on May 19, 2020 15:06:00 GMT -7
Some days the old man " get off my lawn " comes out as hard as I try and suppress it. Z People on my lawn piss me off too, except for kids at Halloween. I give them a free pass for the night! Lol
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Post by lowbudget on May 19, 2020 15:18:48 GMT -7
Some days the old man " get off my lawn " comes out as hard as I try and suppress it. Z People on my lawn piss me off too, except for kids at Halloween. I give them a free pass for the night! Lol I used to turn on the sprinklers. Worked pretty well.
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Post by helmi on May 19, 2020 16:11:29 GMT -7
People on my lawn piss me off too, except for kids at Halloween. I give them a free pass for the night! Lol I used to turn on the sprinklers. Worked pretty well. You really ARE hateful, aren't you? lol
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Post by lowbudget on May 19, 2020 19:55:39 GMT -7
I used to turn on the sprinklers. Worked pretty well. You really ARE hateful, aren't you? lol Not really, there was a reason. Halloween typically falls right at the time new sprouts are popping up from a freshly overseeded fescue lawn. Had to figure out some way to keep the little goblins from stomping said sprouts into oblivion as they cut across the lawn. Forced them to use the driveway as they should have to start with.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on May 20, 2020 6:10:57 GMT -7
Well, for what it’s worth, I feel very confident in my recommendation of the Z-Lux. I believe that would have been the perfect amp for his needs. It ain’t cheap, but it just kicks all-mighty butt. A supercircuit if you ask me. That is why I have two of them.
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Post by Abandoned on May 20, 2020 6:21:00 GMT -7
No disrespect taken, really. You're interpreting my straight and direct reply as a negative tone. I did read your many posts here and on TGP requesting opinions all the while noting your affection for Fender style amps, the Z Wreck Jr. is very far from a Fender toned amp IMHO. I realize it is difficult to shop in today's online market, you don't get a chance to really demo a piece. I few notes will tell way more then any demo video, review or gushing post. I do appreciate that you bought one, only to find it wasn't quite right for you, thanks for trying it out. That is truly the only way you know exactly how it sounds with you plugged in. 33 years has shortened my patience , I lost my salesman stick ,( if I ever really had any ), and sometimes I appear a bit rude when its not my intention. Some days the old man " get off my lawn " comes out as hard as I try and suppress it. Z I understand. Thanks.
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Post by redtele on May 21, 2020 9:46:26 GMT -7
Getting back on topic, the most frustrating thing about owning my Z Wrek Jr is that I waited 3 years for my KOT to arrive, and now I no longer need it! My telecaster through the Z Wrek gets the best edge of breakup tones I could ever wish for, and my Les Paul Goldtop absolutely roars through this thing, no pedals required. I have a wah, reverb, chorus, flanger and delay pedals, but we're talking overdrive/distortion here, as there's not too may amps that have built-in flange or wah!
The amp's own overdrive cannot be beaten by pedals, so along with the aforementioned KOT, I have some tasty D*A*M, Bearfoot, Fairfield and EQD drive pedals doing nothing... I guess the only time using overdrive/distortion pedals has been warranted was by lowering the gain down to 'barely on', rasing the master a touch, and using my Rat pedal with a Les Paul for a cool Nirvana-type tones (after I watched the Post Malone Nirvana covers video on Youtube and just had to learn some of these tunes!). I'm hoping I can achieve this tone without the use of the Rat pedal once I get the chance to turn the master up at rehearsals, as having the gain up really high and the master really low isn't the ideal way to get the best out of the amp.
Also maybe when I get back into rehearsals again the boost on the KOT could be good for loud solos, but i've finally got the pedalboard of my dreams (well, there's one more pedal on my wish list, isn't there always...) and this amp just laughs at all the pedals and blows me away with natural tube distortion instead.
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Post by jhen86 (jordan) on May 21, 2020 10:01:55 GMT -7
Yes, the wreck jr is that good! Good news you can sell that KOT and make a nice profit, if you want.
As a KOT owner, I will say the bass cut was very surprising. Or maybe disappointing would be a better word. At first, at least. Turned my bass heavy RXJR into something completely different. But I've learned to really appreciate it in live settings at gig volume with a band. I prefer the yellow side set to OD for that slight boost of gain and volume. I find the bass cut even worse on the high gain red side. Because of that, it has become my solo boost for neck position leads -actually great for that. (picked that up from Shawn Tubbs. Dedicated neck solo pedal). I have the 4 jack scenario so they can serve different purposes in my switcher. Very convenient.
If you just want a single channel blues breaker style pedal, the KOT can easily be passed by. Wampler Pantheon and Snouse Blackbox can be had for a fraction of the cost. They let you dial in the "right" amount of bass for your rig too.
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Post by redtele on May 21, 2020 10:29:17 GMT -7
Thanks jhen86 i'm actually hoping that the bass cut on the KOT will be the factor that makes this pedal shine in a loud rehearsal type setting (as i'm not gigging at the moment), as usually more gain can mean more mushiness of the lower frequencies, and having the bass reduced can be beneficial here. I have only briefly raised the master volume to noon, and the amp sounded 10 times bigger and fuller, so the cut in bass may be exactly what I need when I play with friends again at rehearsal studio volumes.
I noticed that there's not as much bass cut on the yellow boost side compared to the red overdrive side (i've got low/normal gain both sides), but i've not had much chance to play recently as i've got some assignments due next week, so i'll be experimenting much more when i've got some free time again.
I don't think I could bring myself to sell the KOT though, especially after waiting 3 years for the damn thing, as my moods and tastes change and I get into different bands, guitarists and styles, so having a KOT to pull out of the drawer whenever I want to experiment will be cool.
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Post by zm12 on Sept 17, 2020 17:52:48 GMT -7
If you have the amp set dirty (which sounds awesome on its own) I've found a clean boost works really well in this application. Doesn't mess with the amps natural overdrive. Just gives a little more when needed But if you have the amp clean and want a footswitchable overdrive, there are many that can work well. I've used PAL 800, 800 gold, klon, and marvel drives along with TS variants. Also this amp cleans up really well with the volume knob. That's another topic I guess??
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Post by mackaygtrs on Sept 24, 2020 13:39:18 GMT -7
Keeley Katana Clean Boost So I just got my Z-Wreck Jr. about 3 weeks ago and I've been doing lots of knob turning and starting to get this monster figured out and dialed in with each guitar. Talking about OD/boost pedals, I almost put my Keeley Katana Clean Boost pedal on Reverb a few months back while cleaning up but decided to keep it since it was a purtty limited one with a crazy cool paint job. lol Well I saw it again last night and hooked it up to the Z-Wreck Jr and it's really quite nice, It is almost like the volume knob on the amp going from noon or wherever you have it to wherever you want it to be with a click of the foot. Has absolutely no change in what I can hear in the amps characteristics other than pure clean added boost. Definitely glad I never sold it and from looking now I guess they're hard to come by and were discontinued at one time. I see a few on eBay at close to $300 and no used ones on Reverb. The Keeley website has a newer 19th anniversary model with slight upgraded parts that was just released on the 17th but it's sold out and some yahoo's are selling them on eBay for $600-$700 .lol Anyone messed with this pedal, it's the full size double voltage version with the clear Gibson style speed knob, not the MINI. I do believe this is a really great pedal if you can find one. It was Mark (owner at Victoria Amps) that hooked me up on it when he built my Regal II back in 2012.
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Post by benny on Sept 27, 2020 19:27:25 GMT -7
Keeley Katana Clean Boost So I just got my Z-Wreck Jr. about 3 weeks ago and I've been doing lots of knob turning and starting to get this monster figured out and dialed in with each guitar. Talking about OD/boost pedals, I almost put my Keeley Katana Clean Boost pedal on Reverb a few months back while cleaning up but decided to keep it since it was a purtty limited one with a crazy cool paint job. lol Well I saw it again last night and hooked it up to the Z-Wreck Jr and it's really quite nice, It is almost like the volume knob on the amp going from noon or wherever you have it to wherever you want it to be with a click of the foot. Has absolutely no change in what I can hear in the amps characteristics other than pure clean added boost. Definitely glad I never sold it and from looking now I guess they're hard to come by and were discontinued at one time. I see a few on eBay at close to $300 and no used ones on Reverb. The Keeley website has a newer 19th anniversary model with slight upgraded parts that was just released on the 17th but it's sold out and some yahoo's are selling them on eBay for $600-$700 .lol Anyone messed with this pedal, it's the full size double voltage version with the clear Gibson style speed knob, not the MINI. I do believe this is a really great pedal if you can find one. It was Mark (owner at Victoria Amps) that hooked me up on it when he built my Regal II back in 2012. Yes, I believe John Mayer himself is an avid user of that katana clean boost, I’d like to get one myself as I’m a pedal head and live trying new ones out. I follow a guy that does run throughs of his Live rigs and I see it pop up all over the place. The more I’m on this forum, the more I am anticipating getting my zwreck jr. The whole volume knob thing is what I’ve been looking for since I don’t know when. It’s like Christmas, but better.
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