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Post by markeymark on Feb 13, 2006 18:15:05 GMT -7
I'm buying my first dr z amp. I've read alot of great things about the maz jr. Does this amp have enough headroom to play clean with a drummer or should I go with the maz sr?
Thanks
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Post by propellr on Feb 14, 2006 5:48:06 GMT -7
Nope.
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Post by guitarman1 on Feb 14, 2006 7:22:50 GMT -7
The Sr. sounds much bigger, fatter, fuller.
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Post by JChance on Feb 14, 2006 8:04:44 GMT -7
Ok, I'll play devil's advocate here- The Junior has penty of headroom, depending on how you are using it. I've worked outdoor festivals and large rooms with the Jr and been more than fine. You just have to realize that you aren't going to get pristine cleans at higher volume levels. For me that's fine... Just turn it up, and use some type of compressor or clean boost, and you are going to get more of a "hairy" clean. I have both (see avatar to your left!), and as much as it pains me to say it, I prefer the 18. It's just that for certain situations, the 38 covers more ground and gives you "more." Both are great, just have to really figure out how much practical clean volume you need- JC
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Post by Lefty on Feb 14, 2006 8:22:29 GMT -7
I agree with J here. I've had my Jr. up against a band with a loud drummer and another guitar player using a 100 watt Marshall 1/2 stack, and it came through just fine and had room to spare. Granted the tone wasn't "Twin Reverb" clean, it had some hair around the notes but that was easily controlled by pick attack. Everytime I play with my Jr. I have to stop and wonder..."Is there ANYTHING this amp can't do?"
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Feb 14, 2006 9:17:14 GMT -7
I can't speak to the drummer issue, but I did just spend a day yesterday at my nearest Z dealer comparing the MAZ38 SR NR, 18JR, and 18JR NR through a Z-Best 2X12. I had been wanting a MAZ for a couple of years, but CountryShawn and JChance's clips (and the clips on Z's site) pushed me over the edge. After hearing the sound clips and talking to a few of my trusted Z advisors, I was thinking that I was going to like the 38 better for its clean sounds, fullness and low end. I loved the 38, and thought it sounded like the best Voxish Super Reverb or Twin Reverb that I'd ever heard. However, it was also immediately clear that I preferred the Jr for my first "MAZ" purchase (I'll get the 38 later!). If you read carefully about the Jr vs. the Sr, it's all true. The Jr has more focus, is more "in your face", and is more "raw". The Sr does have more low end and a ton of headroom. What does this mean in the real world? I had to hear it to make sense of it. The best way I can describe it is that the Sr is "too polite", if anything. It has beautiful clean sounds, and a great smooth overdrive, but even with the "cut" up the pick attack isn't as aggressive as the Jr. You know that aggressive sound that Vee got from his Rx on the "Idle Wise" clip posted in the "sounds" section? The Jr. when set right can get some of that. The Jr can also get great clean sounds, just not at the level of the Sr. Also, I found that my Stingray can cop some of the Sr. sound, but with even more harmonic complexity and "Voxiness". To me, the Jr. sounds sort of like a Ghia with a great overdrive pedal in front, but with more flexibility due to the master volume, cut control, and full tone control section. It's also a lot louder than my Ghia. After I decided on a Jr, I spent the rest of the afternoon A/B comparing the reverb model vs. the NR. The NR was the clear winner. The added gain and harmonic complexity of the NR was very noticeable.
PDW
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Post by JChance on Feb 14, 2006 9:20:26 GMT -7
I can't speak to the drummer issue, but I did just spend a day yesterday at my nearest Z dealer comparing the MAZ38 SR NR, 18JR, and 18JR NR through a Z-Best 2X12. I had been wanting a MAZ for a couple of years, but CountryShawn and JChance's clips (and the clips on Z's site) pushed me over the edge. After hearing the sound clips and talking to a few of my trusted Z advisors, I was thinking that I was going to like the 38 better for its clean sounds, fullness and low end. I loved the 38, and thought it sounded like the best Voxish Super Reverb or Twin Reverb that I'd ever heard. However, it was also immediately clear that I preferred the Jr for my first "MAZ" purchase (I'll get the 38 later!). If you read carefully about the Jr vs. the Sr, it's all true. The Jr has more focus, is more "in your face", and is more "raw". The Sr does have more low end and a ton of headroom. What does this mean in the real world? I had to hear it to make sense of it. The best way I can describe it is that the Sr is "too polite", if anything. It has beautiful clean sounds, and a great smooth overdrive, but even with the "cut" up the pick attack isn't as aggressive as the Jr. You know that aggressive sound that Vee got from his Rx on the "Idle Wise" clip posted in the "sounds" section? The Jr. when set right can get some of that. The Jr can also get great clean sounds, just not at the level of the Sr. Also, I found that my Stingray can cop some of the Sr. sound, but with even more harmonic complexity and "Voxiness". To me, the Jr. sounds sort of like a Ghia with a great overdrive pedal in front, but with more flexibility due to the master volume, cut control, and full tone control section. It's also a lot louder than my Ghia. After I decided on a Jr, I spent the rest of the afternoon A/B comparing the reverb model vs. the NR. The NR was the clear winner. The added gain and harmonic complexity of the NR was very noticeable. PDW That is EXACTLY how I describe my 38 vs. my 18. The 38 is refined, bold, sophisticated. The 18, on the other hand, is a snotty little brat. JC
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Feb 14, 2006 9:39:11 GMT -7
Jchance, This may be really dumb, but I've always thought of amps as "male" or "female". The SR is definitely female; a beautiful sounding amp. The Stingray is also. The Prescription and MAZ JR are definitely "male" amps; more raw and aggressive. There's a whole new thread topic there! And, it's all your fault. I told you that you made a sale for the Dr. when you posted those 38/18 clips. I just had to go listen to them myself to know which one filled my needs best. The Jr rocks (literally)!
PDW
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Post by sparrowhawk (Bob) on Feb 14, 2006 10:02:57 GMT -7
>>thought of amps as "male" or "female".
Now I know why I naturally started to refer to my Sr. as "she" or "her"!
btw - My Tele is a "he" - and snottly little brat at that (thanks for the descriptive phrase, Jason). The Strat is definitely a "she"...with a beautiful and complex voice.
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Post by markeymark on Feb 14, 2006 17:28:37 GMT -7
Thanks for the replies. On one hand, the Sr. seems perfect. On the other hand the Jr. seems perfect.
I wish I could afford both.
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