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Post by gbowman on May 14, 2018 8:17:41 GMT -7
Thought I'd toss this out there for some comments. Last night I was playing a room that I've played many times before. And for years, I have always used some sort of amp stand. Anyways, the sound just wasn't working for me so I took the amp off of the stand and put it directly on the floor. Bingo, all the chewy goodness was happening. Now it wasn't for a lack of bass before, I actually had to turn the bass way down earlier on. Anyways, any comments on stands vs on the floor/stage..?
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Post by Rockerfeller on May 14, 2018 8:26:17 GMT -7
I prefer my amp on the floor. If the stage it less than 16' deep, then I put two little rubber door stoppers under the front of it to tilt it back just enough so my ears are getting hit with some of the volume, instead of my knees.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 8:41:52 GMT -7
I always go floor. After years of playing 100w 4x12's, I don't like speakers firing into the back of my head anymore.
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Post by mpa93 on May 14, 2018 9:18:14 GMT -7
Always on an Auralex Gramma. Consistent sound on any stage.
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Post by Stan on May 14, 2018 9:20:43 GMT -7
For me always the floor, I like the added Bass from the floor
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on May 14, 2018 9:48:49 GMT -7
I like it on the floor but in my case I play in a big band, and I have to set up at the rear, with two rows of musicians in front of me. So I always use a standback or similar device to lean my cab back about 45 degrees. It's still on the floor so I don't give up too much in terms of bass, but the main sound gets over the top of the rest of the band and it sounds better out in the audience. This is with an open back cab, too. I've never tried it with a closed back cab, I don't think it would sound as good. Either way I've got to be conscious of the way I set up the treble...I think my Maz 18NR could castrate a cat at 20 feet if it were beamed right at it!
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Post by Rik on May 14, 2018 10:34:46 GMT -7
The Gamma pad for me. Floor Always seems to sound better
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Post by gbowman on May 14, 2018 10:59:05 GMT -7
Ha ha. I guess I have a couple of amps stands to sell...
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 14, 2018 14:45:09 GMT -7
Always on an Auralex Gramma. Consistent sound on any stage. Is there any way to tilt the amp back with a Gramma? I get the decoupling benefit, but isn’t it still aimed at your knees?
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Post by nmz on May 14, 2018 15:22:36 GMT -7
Floor
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Post by j4gitr (John) on May 14, 2018 16:00:19 GMT -7
I like the connection to the floor. Gamma pad helps lift a little if the stage resonates too much. Having said that as I am 6'6", the amp firing at my calf's doesn't always give me the sound I want so I use a standback on almost all gigs with amps I can tilt back. (ie combo amps, haven't had the guts to try head and cabinet yet. soon) www.standback.net
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on May 14, 2018 16:47:29 GMT -7
I like the connection to the floor. Gamma pad helps lift a little if the stage resonates too much. Having said that as I am 6'6", the amp firing at my calf's doesn't always give me the sound I want so I use a standback on almost all gigs with amps I can tilt back. (ie combo amps, haven't had the guts to try head and cabinet yet. soon) www.standback.netSorry for the mini-hijack, but if you figure out how to do that and keep the amp head on top of the cab, please let me know! I wish someone made a couple of brackets that would hook over the top of the speaker cab and then support the amp head at the back, kind of like a couple of flat, elongated 'S' hooks. Maybe I'll have to get busy in the shop...
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Post by Rockerfeller on May 14, 2018 17:05:01 GMT -7
Dave, I use the rubber door stops on my head and cab and you can actually tilt it back quite a bit and not have the head lose any kind of stability.
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Post by Stephen on May 14, 2018 18:44:29 GMT -7
Floor
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Post by doctorice on May 15, 2018 5:24:59 GMT -7
Floor. Exception: When playing outdoors but not on a stage, I use a stand to keep the amp away from dust and dirt.
I sometimes put a couple rubber doorstops under the front of the amp to give it a slight tilt up. Got this tip from Frank (britinvasion).
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on May 15, 2018 8:29:18 GMT -7
I generally take two amps with me, run them both and stack them, so I guess it's on the floor. At least for one. If I bring heads, I use a 212 cab where I can run each amp into one speaker and stack the heads on top. You guys realize that the head doesn't have to sit on top of the cab, right. There are a good number of Beatles photos out there that show them having a Vox head on the floor with the cab in a stand. I have found that if you tip the cab back with a good angle so you can hear it better, you can generally sit the head right in front of it without blocking the speaker. Decoupling the head from the cab cuts down on tube rattle problems too. Also, it gets you some questions from the guitar players in the audience on breaks.
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Post by Maddog on May 15, 2018 9:22:53 GMT -7
I really like sitting an amp on the floor but tilted and leaning against the back wall. I really enjoy occasionally gigging my old Fender piggyback amps that have the head clamped to the speaker cab and tilt-back legs....
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 11:32:55 GMT -7
Mine is always on the floor and I often tilt it back with my Standback amp stand. Works great!!!
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Post by j4gitr (John) on May 17, 2018 2:08:59 GMT -7
I like the connection to the floor. Gamma pad helps lift a little if the stage resonates too much. Having said that as I am 6'6", the amp firing at my calf's doesn't always give me the sound I want so I use a standback on almost all gigs with amps I can tilt back. (ie combo amps, haven't had the guts to try head and cabinet yet. soon) www.standback.netSorry for the mini-hijack, but if you figure out how to do that and keep the amp head on top of the cab, please let me know! I wish someone made a couple of brackets that would hook over the top of the speaker cab and then support the amp head at the back, kind of like a couple of flat, elongated 'S' hooks. Maybe I'll have to get busy in the shop... I've been considering bending some of those over the door Christmas wreath hangers. But when the season came around, I forgot to seek one out.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 17, 2018 3:15:09 GMT -7
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Post by sharkboy on May 17, 2018 4:14:32 GMT -7
I’m a two amp guy, but I have a strong preference for everybody but the bass player being on a stand. This creates less low frequency buildup for the mix, and allows reduced stage volumes. As a player, I really like having the speaker pointed at my ear, but most stands don’t perfectly accommodate head and cabinet well.
At one point, I put everybody into isolation cabs. The sound wasn’t ideal, and there was less reactance between human and soeakers, but I could sing all night and sometimes actually hear myself in the monitors.
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Post by mikefleming on May 17, 2018 11:46:36 GMT -7
I put mine on the floor but tilt it back to point at me. I had Fender tilt-legs installed, the kind that are on SF amps.
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