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Post by TelePrankster on May 16, 2017 4:54:07 GMT -7
As suggested by John I bought a Celestion Gold G10 speaker for my 1x10 custom cab and it sounds awesome, as expected. I'm thinking about getting a 1x12 cab too, do you have some good speakers to suggest? I'd like to have more volume and clean headroom, if possible. Thanks. |
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Post by bryan0418 on May 16, 2017 5:06:56 GMT -7
For a Ghia, a lot of guys like the Celestion Blue or Vintage 30 with their Ghia. Others like a Greenback. Or maybe even a Dr Z 12 inch speaker.
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Post by ss "Shane" on May 16, 2017 5:19:09 GMT -7
Creamback 65 is my favorite single 12 with my Ghia and my Therapy. So smooth!
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Post by TelePrankster on May 16, 2017 5:35:04 GMT -7
A Vintage 30 would be a good choice. Bigger headroom, darker sounding and probably the cheapest.
I forgot to mention that I play a 1975 Telecaster into my Carmen Ghia and the guitar's tone knob is almost completely closed because it's too bright and fizzy, expecially when the amp's volume past 10-11 o'clock. I'd like to darken up the tone a little bit and have more versatility using the guitar's tone knob.
Another option would be to use the amp's tone knob but I prefer to keep it around 10-11 o'clock because I love the bass response. But it's too bright!
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on May 16, 2017 6:07:56 GMT -7
I think you mentioned in another post that you've got the original tubes in your CG that you got used, right? So there's a good chance that the output tubes are getting tired. Try different tubes, and crank the tone knob on the amp up to 1:00 or 2:00.
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Post by TelePrankster on May 16, 2017 7:20:19 GMT -7
I'm a set and forget kind of guy so it's possible that I'm getting those spiky highs because of how I set the amp's tone knob (10 o'clock). I always used the amp set like that but recently I started to crank the volume a little bit more and push the amp with pedals. I'll do some more tests before considering the idea of trying new tubes, which is a good idea though.
I'm not an expert and I don't know how a "tired tube" sounds to be honest. I can recognize a bad/broken tube of course, but I always thought that with tubes it's a simple "good or broken" thing.
Back to the topic, I'd consider a 1x12 cab anyway. I'm planning to use my CG more for clean stuff, not just country and rock.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on May 16, 2017 8:50:49 GMT -7
If you like the G10 Gold, then--even though its expensive--the G12 Gold is your obvious pick for a 12" speaker. It's a "loud" speaker too, so it'll give you about as much volume & clean headroom as you're going to get out of the Ghia. A Vintage 30 might work well, too--it's got the same nice high-mid harmonics that the Gold has, but I think the Gold's bottom end is a little bigger/more solid.
My personal favorite with the Ghia is a G10 10" Greenback, a 12" Greenback (Creamback), or the newer V-Type (all are quieter, small-magnet speakers). But of course, my emphasis is the opposite of yours--less volume & clean headroom, and more on a relaxed feel with natural breakup at reasonable levels.
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Post by eggman on May 16, 2017 17:28:17 GMT -7
Howdy,
For clean tones, one cannot beat the 30 watt Weber AlNiCo Silver Bell. Mine has the "Pre-Rola" treatment" and remains my favorite for my 1x12 Z cab I have mated to my Carmen Ghia head. The extra bottom end compliments the Ghia well. It's ironic that this is a copy of the early Marshall speakers, yet sounds even better than the Celestion Blue for British Invasion chime. This speaker can rock out too, but isn't my first choice for Keef/'Stones duties. For that, get the Celestion Blue.
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Post by TelePrankster on May 17, 2017 2:41:04 GMT -7
I'm a set and forget kind of guy so it's possible that I'm getting those spiky highs because of how I set the amp's tone knob (10 o'clock). I always used the amp set like that but recently I started to crank the volume a little bit more and push the amp with pedals. I'll do some more tests before considering the idea of trying new tubes, which is a good idea though. I'm not an expert and I don't know how a "tired tube" sounds to be honest. I can recognize a bad/broken tube of course, but I always thought that with tubes it's a simple "good or broken" thing. Back to the topic, I'd consider a 1x12 cab anyway. I'm planning to use my CG more for clean stuff, not just country and rock. Like I suspected, I didn't touch the amp's tone knob in months because I loved the tone (10 o'clock). Cranking the tone to 2 o'clock removed most of the high frequencies artifacts even with the guitar's tone full open. The tone was different though: warmer, bassier, not so sharp and with less bite compared to my typical base tone. I loved it though and I had some fun with my '75 Telly. I'm thinking about buying a full set of new tubes for my CG to see if I can solve the fizzyness problem without altering my base tone. |
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Post by John on May 17, 2017 4:00:57 GMT -7
You have to control 'fizzyness' with your guitar's tone control.
I used to run my tele's tone knob at about 7. It seemed to control the very high end fizzy, without altering the overall sound.
Once in a while, when I needed a real bright tone (mostly a lead solo), I would open it up all the way. But always sure to back it down.
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Post by TelePrankster on May 17, 2017 4:50:36 GMT -7
Mine need to be closed almost entirely with my CG. Maybe it depends on the vintage pots but I run it full open with other amps or on 6-7 like you.
Like I said, a possible solution is to crank the amp's tone knob up to 1-2 o'clock but the sound become different. I prefer it in the range before 12 o'clock for country Tele sounds.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 4:57:13 GMT -7
I'm a set and forget kind of guy so it's possible that I'm getting those spiky highs because of how I set the amp's tone knob (10 o'clock). I always used the amp set like that but recently I started to crank the volume a little bit more and push the amp with pedals. I'll do some more tests before considering the idea of trying new tubes, which is a good idea though. I'm not an expert and I don't know how a "tired tube" sounds to be honest. I can recognize a bad/broken tube of course, but I always thought that with tubes it's a simple "good or broken" thing. Back to the topic, I'd consider a 1x12 cab anyway. I'm planning to use my CG more for clean stuff, not just country and rock. Like I suspected, I didn't touch the amp's tone knob in months because I loved the tone (10 o'clock). Cranking the tone to 2 o'clock removed most of the high frequencies artifacts even with the guitar's tone full open. The tone was different though: warmer, bassier, not so sharp and with less bite compared to my typical base tone. I loved it though and I had some fun with my '75 Telly. I'm thinking about buying a full set of new tubes for my CG to see if I can solve the fizzyness problem without altering my base tone. Power tubes first, most likely your pre-amp tubes and rectifier are just fine. |
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Post by mickey on May 17, 2017 8:54:39 GMT -7
I've tried my Creamback M and my Gold with my Ghia; the Gold is a 100db speaker and will give you louder cleans than the CB. The CB does sound good with that amp though, IMO it matches it well but it's only 97db.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 17, 2017 18:42:46 GMT -7
Do something new like tone tubby purple haze!!
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Post by TelePrankster on May 18, 2017 0:30:12 GMT -7
Yesterday I used the amp without an attenuator, set the amp clean-ish (volume exactly on 9 o'clock, tone around 12 o'clock) and rolled off the volume a little bit on both my Tele and 6122 Gretsch.
Basically, I used the CG as a clean platform for dirt pedals to see how it reacts. I tested all of them and all sounded really good, I was surprised to be honest.
I also hit the amp pretty hard with a Klon, a TS and a booster and the fizziness wasn't a big problem.
Obviously this problem starts when the amp is cranked past 9 o'clock on the volume, so I think it can depend on "lazy/tired" power tubes maybe?
Like I said, the amps doesn't sounds broken even cranked, just too damn bright and "vitreus".
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Post by bloozeman on May 18, 2017 10:11:53 GMT -7
I really like the weber silver bell.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 20, 2017 10:06:07 GMT -7
Im going to try a cannabis rex and ill let you know how it sounds! Its a mellower speaker to combat highgs!
Go figure!
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Post by Rhythmark on May 20, 2017 15:44:28 GMT -7
Big thumbs up for the eminence cannibis rex. 12" speaker.
Tames the highs! Especially when cranked. Roll off volume and the cleans where great!
I like it better than this red fang in the amp.
Definitely try one if you can.
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Post by TelePrankster on May 21, 2017 1:34:13 GMT -7
I've read killer reviews about the Eminence Cannabis Rex when I was interested in trying a different speaker for my Princeton. I ended up keeping the stock Jensen speaker because I bought my Carmen Ghia and didn't have the money to buy a new speaker. The C10-R is a good one though, I like it expecially for cleans.
The Cannabis Rex is described as suited for "American voiced amps" so I guess it means "Fender cleans", right? Fender cleans are very bright so... I guess it's a little bit different?
That would be a good choice since I'm not using my Princeton that much for cleans and I prefer my CG for that. Call me crazy, but I'm playig Chet Atkins stuff and Jazz with my CG and it's great.
A bigger speaker with tamed highs would be perfect.
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Post by Rhythmark on May 21, 2017 7:22:09 GMT -7
Cleans and overdrive tones = happiness crex-
Im going to put my crex in my 1x12 and use it with the ghia for while and possibly put it in the ghia cab.
But my ghia is 1x10 so new baffle may be needed.
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Post by TelePrankster on May 21, 2017 7:39:43 GMT -7
I have a CG head with a 1x10 custom cab with a Celestion Gold G10. I'm thinking about getting a new 12'' cab with a new speaker. Better to have two distinct voices for different needs.
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Post by meanslide on May 21, 2017 13:10:26 GMT -7
The Tone Tubby Alnico is a great choice with a Ghia. The hemp cone smooths out the top end just right.
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