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Post by DRem on May 13, 2017 11:12:01 GMT -7
Hello Has anyone tried running an extra cab with the cure yet in a gig situation? I'm really happy with the sound but a bit more bottom end and spread of sound would be great in some gig situations. I'm thinking just the standard size cab 1x12 to sit under it. Unless the studio cab will give me the results with a closed back? Probably look better Or anyone run it with another combo and got good results? Maz with the cure could sound great! Maz for the clean and cure for the dirty. mmm options....
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Post by Russell B on May 13, 2017 12:04:05 GMT -7
I've been thinking of doing that too, but I haven't gotten the matching cab yet.
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Post by pcns on May 13, 2017 13:12:48 GMT -7
I know a good place to get a Y cable to make this work too!
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Post by DRem on May 13, 2017 13:37:15 GMT -7
don't think you need a y cable as it has an external speaker out.
Or are you thinking i want cure with external cab and another amp like the maz?
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Post by LT on May 13, 2017 14:23:04 GMT -7
I'd like to give mine a try with my Mesa Thiele with EV. I think I'll get that cab out and try it.
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Post by southmusic70 on May 13, 2017 16:11:03 GMT -7
I tried mine with my Mesa compact 1x12 open back, and should the occasion arise when I needed more than just the Cure combo, I'd go with the extension. It really makes the Cure sound bigger.
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Post by msterling45 on Aug 17, 2017 8:41:28 GMT -7
I run a 1x12 Z convertible w/ a Blue with my Cure. The extra cab on the other side of a stage really makes a neat stereo field. I'm not thrilled w/ the Blue when paired w/ the Cure; the Z speaker is much better for that amp. I'm thinking about trying a Cannabis Rex in the convertible cab.
One specific thing I have found is that the Cure's studio cab NEEDS to be flat on the floor in order to feel all the bass out of the amp.
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Post by LT on Aug 18, 2017 10:39:00 GMT -7
I run a 1x12 Z convertible w/ a Blue with my Cure. The extra cab on the other side of a stage really makes a neat stereo field. I'm not thrilled w/ the Blue when paired w/ the Cure; the Z speaker is much better for that amp. I'm thinking about trying a Cannabis Rex in the convertible cab. One specific thing I have found is that the Cure's studio cab NEEDS to be flat on the floor in order to feel all the bass out of the amp. I have a C-Rex in my Cure and really like it. It's almost 3db more efficient than the Z speaker, so it might end up being the louder of the two.
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Post by LT on Aug 18, 2017 10:41:15 GMT -7
Forgot to mention.....our Z-bro zpilot has 2 C-Rex's for sale in BST.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 15:15:35 GMT -7
So, is it safe to run a second 8 ohm speaker through the external out while using the built in speaker? I thought that was a no-no.
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Post by simpleton on Aug 18, 2017 16:25:55 GMT -7
So, is it safe to run a second 8 ohm speaker through the external out while using the built in speaker? I thought that was a no-no. As long as it's 8 ohm it's okay for BOTH. I've been running mine that way for months....almost since day one. Per the manual they are wired parallel to 4ohm inside when both are in use. link
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Post by simpleton on Aug 18, 2017 16:29:15 GMT -7
I run a 1x12 Z convertible w/ a Blue with my Cure. The extra cab on the other side of a stage really makes a neat stereo field. I'm not thrilled w/ the Blue when paired w/ the Cure; the Z speaker is much better for that amp. I'm thinking about trying a Cannabis Rex in the convertible cab. One specific thing I have found is that the Cure's studio cab NEEDS to be flat on the floor in order to feel all the bass out of the amp. Besides the C Rex you may also like a WGS G12cs ....it's a great American sounding speaker that works great with Z amps. I've been using my 1x12 convertible with a Weber ceramic Blue Dog 50 watt thru the extra cab output.....I kinda like it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 17:35:39 GMT -7
So, is it safe to run a second 8 ohm speaker through the external out while using the built in speaker? I thought that was a no-no. As long as it's 8 ohm it's okay for BOTH. I've been running mine that way for months....almost since day one. Per the manual they are wired parallel to 4ohm inside when both are in use. linkCool. Thanks!
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Post by 2Cents on Aug 19, 2017 0:28:05 GMT -7
So then, what shall we make of the following info culled from Dr. Z’s FAQS webpage ( drzamps.com/info/faq-troubleshoot/ )? How do I run an extension cab with my combo or hook up 2 speaker cabs to my head?
This is an easy procedure. First thing to do is get a quality Y Cable like the ones offered by Procables N Sound [pcns (aka Todd)]. These cables are available in series or parallel wiring. Always match the ohm rating of the extension cab to the ohm rating of your combo speaker. The same goes for running 2 cabs. Here’s an example for parallel (the most common) connection:
1. Disconnect your 8 ohm combo speaker from the back of the amp chassis and plug it into the Y cable. 2. Plug the extension cab into the Y cable. You now have two 8 ohm loads in parallel to make a 4 ohm load. 3. Plug the Y cable into the 4 ohm speaker out on the rear of your amp. Series connection is the same except that two 8 ohm loads make a 16 ohm load. Not all Z amps have 16 ohm speaker outs so be sure to check your specific amp.
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Post by simpleton on Aug 19, 2017 14:31:52 GMT -7
So then, what shall we make of the following info culled from Dr. Z’s FAQS webpage ( drzamps.com/info/faq-troubleshoot/ )? How do I run an extension cab with my combo or hook up 2 speaker cabs to my head?
This is an easy procedure. First thing to do is get a quality Y Cable like the ones offered by Procables N Sound [pcns (aka Todd)]. These cables are available in series or parallel wiring. Always match the ohm rating of the extension cab to the ohm rating of your combo speaker. The same goes for running 2 cabs. Here’s an example for parallel (the most common) connection:
1. Disconnect your 8 ohm combo speaker from the back of the amp chassis and plug it into the Y cable. 2. Plug the extension cab into the Y cable. You now have two 8 ohm loads in parallel to make a 4 ohm load. 3. Plug the Y cable into the 4 ohm speaker out on the rear of your amp. Series connection is the same except that two 8 ohm loads make a 16 ohm load. Not all Z amps have 16 ohm speaker outs so be sure to check your specific amp. Did you check the link to the Cure manual? The Cure comes PREWIRED internally to accept ONLY an 8 ohm extension cab, which can be run with the speaker in the cab because Dr Z did the ( Y cable ) thing him self inside.....only it's notba Y cable but the same results. He just made it a bit easier for the Cure owners. Other amps need to do what you found.
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Post by Rhythmark on Aug 20, 2017 7:37:21 GMT -7
That's why the Cure is so awesome! I love the Cure-z! No y cable needed!!!
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Post by pcns on Aug 20, 2017 12:22:39 GMT -7
That's why the Cure is so awesome! I love the Cure-z! No y cable needed!!! I understand the EMS is the same way. The Y cable is what introduced me to this forum, Dr Z and his amps.
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Post by simpleton on Aug 20, 2017 13:54:47 GMT -7
That's why the Cure is so awesome! I love the Cure-z! No y cable needed!!! I understand the EMS is the same way. The Y cable is what introduced me to this forum, Dr Z and his amps. Your fine speaker cable is what is hooking my Cure into my 1x12 Convertible in closed back form.....also using your fine Cable to plug into the front of my Cure. Soft and supple guitar cable that doesn't tangle ? Yup!
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Post by Buzz Fretwear (Ignatius) on Aug 23, 2017 14:15:20 GMT -7
Does a second cab make a noticeable difference in headroom? I'm kicking the tires on a few different Z's and on paper the Cure checks a lot of boxes. I'm concerned about clean headroom at club/stage volumes with a drummer. The thing is, those louder gigs would be occasional - otherwise I think I'd be fine.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Aug 24, 2017 8:37:01 GMT -7
Love the handle above, Buzz Fretwear - still chuckling. Anyway, the Cure is plenty loud and by adding a second cabinet you should see about a couple of db increase in volume over just one speaker. Agree with the post above, the amp should be coupled to the floor for the best low-end response. Overall, the only thing better than one Z-12 is more than one Z-12.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 8:55:48 GMT -7
I have a studio-sized cab sitting around loaded with a G12H30--sounds great with the cure as an external cab in combination with the Z-12. Adds in some nice upper mid richness, but doesn't overpower the Z-12 despite being more efficient.
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Post by dizeased on Sept 28, 2017 14:09:01 GMT -7
I run a 1x12 Z convertible w/ a Blue with my Cure. The extra cab on the other side of a stage really makes a neat stereo field. I'm not thrilled w/ the Blue when paired w/ the Cure; the Z speaker is much better for that amp. I'm thinking about trying a Cannabis Rex in the convertible cab. One specific thing I have found is that the Cure's studio cab NEEDS to be flat on the floor in order to feel all the bass out of the amp.
If I may ask, what you didn't like about the Blue with the Cure? I was considering getting a Blue or another Alnico speaker to use instead of the Z speaker but haven't really put in the time yet with the Z speaker to actually make that decision.
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Post by msterling45 on Oct 14, 2017 20:50:52 GMT -7
I run a 1x12 Z convertible w/ a Blue with my Cure. The extra cab on the other side of a stage really makes a neat stereo field. I'm not thrilled w/ the Blue when paired w/ the Cure; the Z speaker is much better for that amp. I'm thinking about trying a Cannabis Rex in the convertible cab. One specific thing I have found is that the Cure's studio cab NEEDS to be flat on the floor in order to feel all the bass out of the amp.
If I may ask, what you didn't like about the Blue with the Cure? I was considering getting a Blue or another Alnico speaker to use instead of the Z speaker but haven't really put in the time yet with the Z speaker to actually make that decision.
I think the Blue works perfectly with my Ghia but it just seems kinda lackluster with the Cure. I dunno man, might be this whole American voicing thing; I tend to play my Cure like a blackface Princeton. I think the Z speaker sounds better with the Cure. Interested in a Cannabis Rex too. I put one of those in an old old Ampeg Reverberrocket I've got and it made that old Ampeg sound even better.
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