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Cut knob
Sept 20, 2016 10:42:59 GMT -7
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Post by brightlight on Sept 20, 2016 10:42:59 GMT -7
I seem to be able to hear what the cut knob does on the wreck, but I have to admit setting it to taste isn't enough to satisfy my curiosity.
Can anyone here chime in with some knowledge of what the cut knob actually affects both under the hood and sonically?
From what I hear it enhances clarity and touch response. To me this clarity sometimes comes with too much high end bite even through my 335's burstbuckers.
This then makes me want to turn the treble way down to the point where the treble is almost completely off and I don't feel quite right about compensating in that way. So I guess another question is how does the cut interact with the bass and treble knobs exactly?
For a point of reference I typically have the cut around 10-11 o clock
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Post by doctorice on Sept 20, 2016 13:41:59 GMT -7
I don't know the technical circuit details, but my understanding is that Cut is a tone control for the power amp section. In that sense, it's separate from the usual tone controls. I don't believe it interacts with them electronically. As you noted, it can get bright. So it's certainly fine to dial up Cut and lower Treble. You can't hurt anything in the amp doing that. Experiment and let your ears, not eyes, be the guide.
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Post by perryr on Sept 20, 2016 21:40:45 GMT -7
Cut control is between the phase inverter and your power tubes. The other tone controls are before the phase inverter. The cut is kinda like a presence control, its late in the chain and has an impact on the highest frequencies.
The Treble and the Bass controls define the low/mid/hi balance, the Cut is the final touch. Depending on the Guitar, the pedals, the speaker, the volume level.. turn those things to where they sound good and enjoy the ride! Low treble settings with the cut wide open emphasizes midrange, chunkier tone, its a cool sound. High treble settings scoop the tone, use the cut to tune the top.. another cool sound. Either end of the control ranges have great tones with different emphasis.
Dr Z is a master at circuit design, he designs and tunes the controls to enhance the character, and really get the most from every amp design. Ghia is prime example, but so are The MAZ's and then the F86 platform (that is a beautiful 2 tone control design based on 1 gain stage), and on through everything since (DB4 rotary tone selector!). Z-Wreck is no exception, the controls are so nicely tuned, the usable range includes killer tones at settings out near the extremes.. my desert Island amp!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Sept 21, 2016 6:57:03 GMT -7
Thanks for sharing that information Perry! Good to know!
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Post by greenblues58 on Sept 21, 2016 7:52:45 GMT -7
That explains why l prefer a high cut setting with a low treble setting .
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Cut knob
Sept 21, 2016 21:37:41 GMT -7
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Post by brightlight on Sept 21, 2016 21:37:41 GMT -7
Thanks for all the feedback! I think I'm getting the hang of it finally.
I also realized a lot of my tonal woes could be solved by giving the comfort setting a shot.
I bought the wreck combo when I strictly played my Ron Kirn tele and the band has since changed direction which prompted me to get a satin red 335 to match our needs.
Without changing any tone controls the wreck gave up its shrill highs and buzzy bass notes and became a thick, creamy, hard rockin machine instantly.
Anyone else find that speed seems to favor single coils and comfort humbuckers?
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Sept 24, 2016 10:45:35 GMT -7
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Post by mattp on Sept 24, 2016 10:45:35 GMT -7
Great info here. I find the Speed helps tighten things up w/ humbuckers, personally, and it gives the amp a little bit more bottom end to my ears. It seems that either setting likes single coils--just depends on the sound you're going for. I do run the amp with lower treble and higher cut settings though, so perhaps that's why I like the speed with humbuckers?
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Sept 24, 2016 13:35:43 GMT -7
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Post by brightlight on Sept 24, 2016 13:35:43 GMT -7
Great info here. I find the Speed helps tighten things up w/ humbuckers, personally, and it gives the amp a little bit more bottom end to my ears. It seems that either setting likes single coils--just depends on the sound you're going for. I do run the amp with lower treble and higher cut settings though, so perhaps that's why I like the speed with humbuckers? Just out of curiosity how low is your treble knob in terms of "o' clock"? And how high is your cut knob?
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Sept 24, 2016 20:04:59 GMT -7
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Post by mattp on Sept 24, 2016 20:04:59 GMT -7
I've been running treble around 9-10:00, and Cut around 2:00. Bass around 11-12:30, depending on my ears. And volume anywhere between 10:30 and 2:30--it all sounds good. I play a Les Paul w/ humbuckers, and a Jr w/ a P90, and it sounds pretty cool. I just really notice a tighter percussiveness in the Speed mode that I have tended to favor since I got the amp. But, also, I can't seem to find a bad sound? Well, maybe if I dimed the treble...but, as long as the treble is a little lower than the Bass, I'm pretty happy with whatever. The Cut can go up or down...
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