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Post by DRem on Jul 6, 2016 3:40:35 GMT -7
I'm toying selling my remedy, i have an interested buyer but i'm still reluctant to sell even though its up for sale!
Basically i feel i might regret it.
I'm so used to the remedy and i love the fact it doesn't need pedals.
Would you say the z lux and be used in a covers band cover anything from pop to rock (guns n'roses) using humbuckers (low output)
With the boost and the volume/master does it get into sustaining leads like the remedy or would you need a pedal?
is it more touch sensitive than a remedy? cleans up as good?
Has anyone compared the z lux to a fender deluxe before?
thanks in advance
Dean
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jul 6, 2016 6:38:28 GMT -7
don't have all the answers to your question but may have some. Reverse order - The Z-Lux is as good (if not better) than any deluxe out there - it really is amazing. It definitely does clean better than the Remedy (at least to my ears). Not sure the sustain is as good as a Remedy. A pedal would help a little. Can the Z-Lux cover everything? It'll cover most types of music - not sure about some of the GNR without a pedal (though there are a few videos out there where it gets a little raunchy when pushed.)
I know some more people will chime in as the day goes by.
BTW - I'm on my third Remedy right now - I must like it or I wouldn't keep buying another.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 6, 2016 12:37:38 GMT -7
If you love the Remedy, I'm sure you'll miss it. That said, I've already stated that that Z-Lux might be the best amp I've ever owned. And I have an original Remedy sitting right there next to the Z-Lux. I love them both, but if I had to let one go for any reason, I'd keep the Z-Lux.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 13:19:05 GMT -7
I didn't bond with my Remedy, but I love the Z-Lux. The Lux won't do what the Remedy does without pedals, but give it a little push and it's got crunch galore, and a smoother, more 3D sounding crunch than you'll get from the Rem (IMO, YMMV). But if you love your Remedy, don't sell it expecting the Z Lux to do what it does--it won't.
I've owned a couple of DRRIs, and the Z-Lux is in a completely different class. No comparison.
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Post by DRem on Jul 6, 2016 15:23:58 GMT -7
I suppose what i'm after is...
something that is more touch sensitive, when push can got a smoother, creamer, less aggressive overdrive. I guess if i can use the eqbypass and then a booster in front will that get me to most places? Like a simple mxr micro amp?
The other thing is... combo way more practical... But does it still sound big
EZGbiscuit has the z luz got more guts then the DRRI's? how would you describe?
Does the combo cut through the mix nicely in a band setting
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Post by DRem on Jul 6, 2016 16:04:38 GMT -7
Can you compare it to a brownface deluxe 6g3? If the 6g3 had reverb
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 16:36:38 GMT -7
A lot of questions there--haven't played that much with the boost function yet, or tried to get tube distortion without using an OD pedal--I'm a pedal guy, so haven't gone there. But--I find the DRRI to be pretty boxy and small sounding unless cranked, and then they're ear-splitting--there's kind of nothing in between. The Z-Lux sounds big and rich at pretty much any volume--I've been running it today with a Jetter GS124 overdrive pedal and it just sounds fantastic. The combo sounds a lot bigger than you'd expect, yes--no problem there. I can compare it (from memory) to a Z-28, which is supposed to be pretty similar to a brownface deluxe; the Z-28 is a very mid-focused amp--it cuts extremely well and has a very distinctive voice. The Z-Lux is very full and balanced sounding with the EQ settings all at 12:00; big bottom, rich mids, sweet, rounded highs. Yes I think it would cut well; also, you'll got compliments and tone envy from other players at gigs. It's a great, interactive platform for pedals, which suits me down to the ground. I don't really know what to compare it to--it's definitely Fender inspired, but has none of the front-end stiffness of a lot of Fender amps. Very forgiving--designed to make you sound your best. But, again, it's not going to be a Rem. If that's the sound/feel you love, why change?
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Post by Faze on Jul 6, 2016 17:18:56 GMT -7
I really liked the Remedy it was probably my favorite Z amp I have a had a few. I haven't used the boost that much I been using my pedals lately. However I have a Ramble Fx Marvel Drive and with it I can get it to sound like a remedy . Its got that Marshall 70's crunch. Still the Z-Lux is a different animal then the remedy similar with the 20/40 watt option but completely different. The EQ section is more flexible then the remedy. Like these guys have said big open warm 3D like tone. It blew my Fender Vibro King amps away. I ended up selling them both. The Lux is a lush sounding amp it cuts through the mix really well. Its real pristine sounding. Its creamier and smoother then the Remedy IMHO. It has great touch sensitivity too it as well. I also use a Fulltone 69 Fuzz with it and it sounds really creamy with it. If its the Marshall tone your after I would say stick with the remedy. If you are looking for amp that can get you some huge 3D like bell tones as well as some warm overdrive and crunch and also be more versatile then I would say give the Z-lux a try. I really don't think you would be disappointed,
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Post by markT on Jul 6, 2016 17:59:12 GMT -7
The Z-Lux sounds big and rich at pretty much any volume--.... The combo sounds a lot bigger than you'd expect, yes--no problem there. .... The Z-Lux is very full and balanced sounding with the EQ settings all at 12:00; big bottom, rich mids, sweet, rounded highs. Yes I think it would cut well; also, you'll got compliments and tone envy from other players at gigs. It's a great, interactive platform for pedals... don't really know what to compare it to--it's definitely Fender inspired, but has none of the front-end stiffness of a lot of Fender amps. Very forgiving--designed to make you sound your best. But, again, it's not going to be a Rem. If that's the sound/feel you love, why change? ^^^This!
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Post by DRem on Jul 6, 2016 18:19:28 GMT -7
Thanks so much for your input! I think by the sounds of it the z lux could be the one! I'm loving the idea it's a grab and go and how you are describing it is what I have in my head right now, The full band eq, with the boost, master and volume with 20/40 lets you get anywhere you need from loud clean to crunch. I think with a pedal in front I can live with but I'll get most of the sound from the amp. I think in the set there is only 3 tracks where I need that sound so I may need to play with the amp settings. Is there anyone using the lux with no pedals or making it work harder with the boost?
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jul 7, 2016 12:02:10 GMT -7
I think the Z-Lux is going to surpass the Maz 18NR as most favorite amp in the Z line. Might take a year or two, but it is just an incredible amplifier that has such authority at every level. Master Volume that is unsurpassed, world class tremolo and reverb, primo tone stack, and swithcable at 20/40 watts...plus the variable boost switch. I love all my Z amps, but every time I turn on the 'Lux and plug in I smile. It's so easy to dial in, and while it's LOUD, it can whisper too. I love this amp.
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Post by reza on Jul 10, 2016 6:43:34 GMT -7
Dean
I have both and love both. Also play a wide range of music that can get as aggressive of tone as GnR in the cover band. The Z-lux is much more versatile, but you really need a few pedals (boost and overdrive) to maximize on the versatility to get you to hard rock territory.
Luckily the Z-Lux blends the pedal in to the tone so well that it sounds like an extension of the amp.
If you're hoping that the Z-Lux without pedals will get you all the creamy sustain crunch that the remedy can give you, then you may be disappointed.
There is a reason why I still own the remedy, as well as a few Marshall (plexi and JCM800) heads.
For a single grab and go amp to cover a gig, the Z-Lux is the best... But sometimes I want that Marshall crunch!
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Post by Faze on Jul 10, 2016 14:52:22 GMT -7
I gigged mine today at Church just straight in no pedals and used the variable boost. I had the boost on full capacity. I was able to get nice warm liquid like leads more on the line of a blues tone. Its a pretty significant jump in volume when you engage the boost so you def have to ride your volume knob on your guitar but that is where all the good tones are anyway. I actually liked the tone I was getting without pedals. The amp sounded so pure. Thats the only way to describe it. Pure tone. Big and full. No compression. Fat warm and articulate.
This amp has a great feel too it.
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Post by Rockerfeller on Jul 12, 2016 8:07:04 GMT -7
Here is the thing I LOVE about my Remedy. It gets a great crunch tone, without pedals. It cuts through the mix and is so EASY to make sound good. A lot of the time, I just step on the EQ bypass for solo's and it sounds stellar. What I wish it did better was country clean. It will do Brad Paisley dirty clean, but not Dwight Yoakam clean. It is passable, but whenever I am doing a Folsom Prison Blues style solo I can always tell my Remedy is faking it.
If the Z-Lux can do the country clean thing better AND it can get AC/DC like rhythm tone with a pedal, I think I would make the switch. The problem? I would have to buy the Z-lux to try it. I hate doing that!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 12, 2016 8:31:51 GMT -7
Here is the thing I LOVE about my Remedy. It gets a great crunch tone, without pedals. It cuts through the mix and is so EASY to make sound good. A lot of the time, I just step on the EQ bypass for solo's and it sounds stellar. What I wish it did better was country clean. It will do Brad Paisley dirty clean, but not Dwight Yoakam clean. It is passable, but whenever I am doing a Folsom Prison Blues style solo I can always tell my Remedy is faking it. If the Z-Lux can do the country clean thing better AND it can get AC/DC like rhythm tone with a pedal, I think I would make the switch. The problem? I would have to buy the Z-lux to try it. I hate doing that! Nothing at all wrong with owning two amps with half power switches.
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Post by Rockerfeller on Jul 13, 2016 6:31:46 GMT -7
Nothing at all wrong with owning two amps with half power switches. I had a long conversation with myself about this very thing yesterday. In the end, I convinced myself that I was right.
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