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Post by logen99999 on Jan 12, 2016 7:52:30 GMT -7
Hello all. I am almost certain my next amp will be a carmen Ghia. But I have a few questions for your before I commit.
Does the 10” speaker combo sound noticeably smaller/less ballsy than the 12” combo? I am looking at the 10” for portability reason. I love the idea of being able to walk around with it and having the option to plug it into a cab at a show if need be. The 12” might be too heavy to carry around often.
Has anyone here compared the CG to a Marshall 1974x? That is the only other amp I am considering and was wondering how to stands up to the CG. I am looking for something that sounds great both clean and dirty, and has a lot of volume and cut so it wont get lost in the mix with another guitar and a bass amp during a live show. I currently have a Vox night train combo. It sounds great in the bedroom, but falls short next to another guitarist and bass amp. Just doesn’t cut through enough :\
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Post by digs57 on Jan 12, 2016 8:45:32 GMT -7
oh the 1/10 cab combo will cut through the mix...obviously a 12 will have more throw than the 10...giving it a more complete sound,smoother.Yes 12/cab is heavier,but the payoff with the reg cab is the fuller tone...but the 10 combo is a sweet lil combo and is a dream to haul...had one and miss it...its just that the other guitarist will complain that your to loud then
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Post by John on Jan 12, 2016 8:49:12 GMT -7
You can't go wrong with a Ghia.
I have a 1x10 combo. It's the perfect grab-n-go club amp. The gig's over, it's late, you're tired, and it's nice to have the small 1x10 combo to carry to the car.
I have a 10" gold speaker in mine. There's practically no difference in tone between the 10 & 12. The Ghia really cuts through well...as does all Z amps.
I've never played a 1974x. Can't help you there.
My Ghia 1x10 combo is for sale if you're interested. I'm in Ohio. Where are you located?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 9:34:54 GMT -7
The Marshall 1974x is a great amp, probably my favorite of their handwired series. I don't think the Ghia can put out that much gain, though, if that's what you're looking for. You'll probably need a solid OD pedal, but even with the Ghia + OD pedal, you're still half the price of the 1974x.
If you're looking to drop $2800 on an amp, the Divided by 13 BTR 23 is the one to do it on...
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Post by logen99999 on Jan 12, 2016 11:34:01 GMT -7
John I am in NYC. Does it have an 16 ohm tap? or is it just 4 and 8?
Irreversal that's what I like about the Marshall. Its got killer looks, and great dirty tone AND tremelo. I see them used for $1500. It's a tough choice between that and the Ghia.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 12:11:09 GMT -7
If onboard trem isn't a necessity, I think you'd be happier with the versatility of the Ghia. It will clean up nicer than the 1974x, which is more Monza-y to my ears. If I was buying purely for overdrive tones alone, I think I'd take the 1974x. But then, I'd prefer to have a Monza over a 1974x, which is why I own one of those...
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Post by John on Jan 12, 2016 13:04:38 GMT -7
John I am in NYC. Does it have an 16 ohm tap? or is it just 4 and 8? Irreversal that's what I like about the Marshall. Its got killer looks, and great dirty tone AND tremelo. I see them used for $1500. It's a tough choice between that and the Ghia. No Ghia (to my knowledge) has a 16 ohm tap. The earliest models only had an 8 ohm and broke up early. The newer ones (like mine) have a 4 & 8 ohm tap and have more headroom. Mine has the upgraded Russian Military tubes (high grade and long life), brakelite installed and a padded cover. (and don't forget the celestion gold speaker) It's in showroom floor condition. (I take good care of my gear) Here's a few pics:
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Post by eggman on Jan 14, 2016 18:56:04 GMT -7
John, Between your Ghia, your slides and that beer I hereby confer upon you an honorary degree from LSU!
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Post by John on Jan 15, 2016 4:39:50 GMT -7
John, Between your Ghia, your slides and that beer I hereby confer upon you an honorary degree from LSU! That's a shot of whiskey!
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Post by Maddog on Jan 15, 2016 6:22:22 GMT -7
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Post by eggman on Jan 15, 2016 11:52:20 GMT -7
John,
Whiskey? In THAT case, we'll make it a Master's degree! LOL!
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Post by John on Jan 15, 2016 12:36:08 GMT -7
I think the picture is deceptive. The shot glass appears larger than it is. Keep in mind, it's only a 1x10 Ghia combo. Small footprint.
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Post by simpleton on Jan 15, 2016 18:22:20 GMT -7
I think the mini Ghia has all three taps. 4, 8, 16.....
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Post by purpletele on Jan 15, 2016 22:07:19 GMT -7
I think the mini Ghia has all three taps. 4, 8, 16..... And apparently 1/2 pint tap as well
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Post by purpletele on Jan 15, 2016 23:24:41 GMT -7
If onboard trem isn't a necessity, I think you'd be happier with the versatility of the Ghia. It will clean up nicer than the 1974x, which is more Monza-y to my ears. If I was buying purely for overdrive tones alone, I think I'd take the 1974x. But then, I'd prefer to have a Monza over a 1974x, which is why I own one of those... Having built an exact replica of a 1968 1974x I have found the tremolo channel nice but I feel like I would rather have a second regular circuit and use a pedal for effects. I have parts in front of me to change it to a TMB, but it kills me to dissect a wonderful amp. I think the hand wired Marshall 1974x would be a more useful amp if they did the same TMB conversion with a PPIMV. I run the amp through a Fryette Power Station for attenuation and crank the 74x to 11:00 and it seems some really cool dynamics occur. I can roll back the volume on the guitar and get into some really nice cleans. (Throaty). I think the single channel circuit on the 74x and the Ghia are similar and I would think they have similar dynamics. Than Marshall probably has a larger Output Transformer Probably useless gibberish
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 9:28:52 GMT -7
If onboard trem isn't a necessity, I think you'd be happier with the versatility of the Ghia. It will clean up nicer than the 1974x, which is more Monza-y to my ears. If I was buying purely for overdrive tones alone, I think I'd take the 1974x. But then, I'd prefer to have a Monza over a 1974x, which is why I own one of those... Having built an exact replica of a 1968 1974x I have found the tremolo channel nice but I feel like I would rather have a second regular circuit and use a pedal for effects. I have parts in front of me to change it to a TMB, but it kills me to dissect a wonderful amp. I think the hand wired Marshall 1974x would be a more useful amp if they did the same TMB conversion with a PPIMV. I run the amp through a Fryette Power Station for attenuation and crank the 74x to 11:00 and it seems some really cool dynamics occur. I can roll back the volume on the guitar and get into some really nice cleans. (Throaty). I think the single channel circuit on the 74x and the Ghia are similar and I would think they have similar dynamics. Than Marshall probably has a larger Output Transformer Probably useless gibberish I concur, I have no use for on board trem and would prefer additional tone or MV abilities. I would love to play the Ghia, the 1974x and the Monza side by side by side. From what I recall, the Ghia had the most clean on tap, the Marshall broke up the earliest and the Monza was the undisputed gain champion. However, they all have similar characteristics. When you factor in Doc's build quality, and what a new Ghia costs vs a 1974x, I know what I would choose.
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