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Post by sirgilmour on Oct 18, 2015 23:41:39 GMT -7
I used to run my Ghia through a 2x12 cab loaded with G12 & V30, it sounded great but it was too big for me to drag to gigs. So I bought a convertible cab with 10" Greenback and it sounds too bright. I can back off the tone knob to reduce the brightness but I lose some note clarity. I mostly play the Tele.
Do you have any advice? Speaker swap?
Thanks!
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Post by John on Oct 19, 2015 4:44:09 GMT -7
Was the V30/G12H a closed back cabinet? A closed back can attenuate highs a bit. Or at least make them very beamy/directional.
Also, the loss of bass...going from a 2x12 to a 1x10... will be perceived as being brighter. (or at least more mid/bright) Not to mention both the V30 and G12H have big 50oz magnets. Larger magnets have bigger/firmer bass. The 10" greenback only has a 14oz magnet.
When I use my Ghia and tele, I will play rhythm with the guitar tone knob around 6-7...but for a solo, I will often crank it wide open.
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Post by pcns on Oct 19, 2015 5:25:17 GMT -7
Is the Greenback a new speaker? Maybe not broken in?
Sometime I will try a new speaker or amp and will walk around the room to get a better feel for what I am hearing. Off axes from the speaker, around the back and so on. This gives me a better idea what I am hearing and if something is being directional
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Post by John on Oct 19, 2015 5:50:06 GMT -7
Is the Greenback a new speaker? Maybe not broken in? I forgot about that. New speakers 'can' sound brittle/honky/nasal. Once the cone can flex better/easier, the bass will up where it should be should be and the speaker tone will be more balanced. |
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Oct 19, 2015 6:17:31 GMT -7
Yes, the Greenback (12" or 10") can be bright with the Ghia... but certainly not any moreso than either the G12H-30 Anniversary or Vintage 30 large-magnet speakers.
It's possible you might've lost your "balance" going from 2x12's to 1x10; that is to say, if you lost a lot of low-end push from the 2x12 cabinet, the 1x10 will be perceived as being slanted towards the highs. An adjustment of the Tone knob (on the amp) when transitioning between speaker cabs might be your best bet.
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Post by simpleton on Oct 19, 2015 7:48:32 GMT -7
How does it sound in the band mix?
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Post by sirgilmour on Oct 19, 2015 10:36:19 GMT -7
Yes, the Greenback (12" or 10") can be bright with the Ghia... but certainly not any moreso than either the G12H-30 Anniversary or Vintage 30 large-magnet speakers. It's possible you might've lost your "balance" going from 2x12's to 1x10; that is to say, if you lost a lot of low-end push from the 2x12 cabinet, the 1x10 will be perceived as being slanted towards the highs. An adjustment of the Tone knob (on the amp) when transitioning between speaker cabs might be your best bet. Yeah maybe I lived with the 212 for a long time and my ears need to adjust. I do miss the thumb bass of 212 but the 1x10 sounds much better overdriven. |
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Post by sirgilmour on Oct 19, 2015 10:42:11 GMT -7
How does it sound in the band mix? It sounds fine in the band mix (with my tone knob backed off). But I'm a b*tch when it comes to tone  |
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Post by simpleton on Oct 19, 2015 11:06:04 GMT -7
How does it sound in the band mix? It sounds fine in the band mix (with my tone knob backed off). But I'm a b*tch when it comes to tone I have had the same troubles ... But what sounds good alone doesn't always sound good live. That said, I don't like greenbacks. You might try WGS they take off the high end stuff that Celestion leaves in and some how it takes that annoying edge off. Maybe a speaker swap will help. |
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