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Post by Maddog on Oct 13, 2015 14:24:27 GMT -7
Have we, as a whole, ever come to a consensus on an EL 84 that's dependable, musical, and also affordable? What's up with all this 7189, EL 844, etc, etc, etc?  I recently bought an old (2001) Ghia and I know she'll need to be re-tubed once she's here...... Any thoughts, brothers??? |
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Post by John on Oct 13, 2015 14:34:21 GMT -7
www.thetubestore.com/Tubes/EL84-6BQ5-Tube-Types/Preferred-Series-7189-Premium-EL84I splurged for the expensive retube. The same high quality Russian Military tubes the Doc puts in the Wreck. Since this was a gigging amp, it was important to me to spend the extra money for durability. (I had the Ghia burn up a power tube 90 seconds before an important gig....rendering it useless. I didn't bring a backup, and limped through the pa all night.) Have you had a Ghia before? And is your new purchase a head or combo?
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Post by Maddog on Oct 13, 2015 14:47:32 GMT -7
Have you had a Ghia before? And is your new purchase a head or combo?
I've owned one ghia which was my very first Z about 15 years ago. This one I just bought is identical to that first one. It's a 2001 2 x 10 combo, but I'll probably buy a head cab or have Peter Mather make me one, as I have some Z speaker cabs sitting idle. The amp has its original 2 Z-10 speaker compliment....
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Post by Maddog on Oct 13, 2015 14:51:13 GMT -7
Chicken head knobs.... Yay!
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Post by BritInvasion on Oct 13, 2015 15:08:28 GMT -7
Lee I've had a lot of luck TAD EL84 STR's. I also like the Russian military version that I picked up at Dougs Tubes fwiw.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 13, 2015 15:41:35 GMT -7
Thanks John....thanks Frank.... a shopping I will go.....
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Post by nmz on Oct 13, 2015 15:50:31 GMT -7
Totally agree, so many choices! Thanks for the recommendations and a very helpful thread.
Congrats on a fine looking Ghia Maddog!
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Post by jesslm02 on Oct 13, 2015 16:50:39 GMT -7
The 7189 tubes are good. I've been running the TADs in my early 2k Ghia and really like them. They are definitely worth a try. Also, don't knock JJs. They are probably your cheapest option but they do sound good in the Ghia.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 17:52:30 GMT -7
I like the new EH EL84s a lot in the CG.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 13, 2015 18:26:01 GMT -7
I like the new EH EL84s a lot in the CG. Eric, isn't that the tube that Doc went to for the Ghias etal a coupla years ago? |
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Post by jesslm02 on Oct 13, 2015 19:55:17 GMT -7
I like the new EH EL84s a lot in the CG. Eric, isn't that the tube that Doc went to for the Ghias etal a coupla years ago? Yes he did. The JJs had a bad run of QC. He's back to using and recommending JJ now. |
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Post by simpleton on Oct 13, 2015 20:15:21 GMT -7
I always just used JJ's. Never been let down yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 6:18:04 GMT -7
I like the new EH EL84s a lot in the CG. Eric, isn't that the tube that Doc went to for the Ghias etal a coupla years ago? They offer them graded also. |
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Post by digs57 on Oct 14, 2015 7:26:25 GMT -7
I have tried them pretty much all and they all go south...redplate,noise,ect...I like eh tone the best...tad are hearty lil ....I was recommended mesa....using jj's with a peavey classic and saw that z is back to using jj... |
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Oct 14, 2015 8:10:15 GMT -7
You know... not that I'm one to recommend yet another "brand" of tubes that are simply another factory's tested & re-labelled tubes... BUT I've gotta think that, as complicated as Mesa/Boogie's circuits are, that their tubes would have to conform to some pretty strict standards/tolerances in order to work well in all of their various clean-to-crazy-gain circuits. Anyone got experience/comments with those tubes? I don't even know who their EL84's are made by...
I wonder if any experts could weigh in? And should the Mods move this thread over to the "Amplifier Accessories > Tubes" section?
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Oct 14, 2015 8:31:58 GMT -7
I'm not a tube expert, and I'm not a Mesa guy, but I agree with Mark on this one. I recently tried a pair of Mesa EL-84 tubes and they are okay. Not too much on the chimey side but they have a nice midrange and good bass. They look very much like they are made of Sovtek components to me.
That said, I think I'm going back to JJ for my next order. They seem to be the most stable and reliable, good sounding tube out there right now.
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Post by eggman on Oct 20, 2015 12:03:07 GMT -7
Howdy,
My NOS Sylvanias are STILL going strong! Apparently JJ has conquered it's QC issues, so I'll go with them next time. Sovteks are cheap and rugged; they'll do in a pinch. YMMV.
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I recently bought an old (2001) Ghia and I know she'll need to be re-tubed once she's here...... Any thoughts, brothers???
