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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 8:48:12 GMT -7
Hi guys I've noticed on every topic that changing the speaker has been mentioned! Now correct me if I'm wrong but if the good Dr put a certain speaker in the amp that you've chosen surely that's the best sound it's gonna achieve? Why would he put in a speaker that doesn't make the amp sound its best is beyond me! If your changing the speaker don't you think you've bought the wrong amp?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 8:54:19 GMT -7
Sometimes we can't help mess with things.
I go back to the Doc's selections for the most part.
A lot of times "the best" on paper doesn't translate to "the best" in the real world.
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Post by ME on Jun 21, 2015 9:06:30 GMT -7
I look at this way, all Z's are great amps, but not all fit in the band/situation you are gonna play in. Note several members own many Z amps.
A different speaker may help your amp work better in your band. You may need more or less efficiency to find the right mix for your sweet spot.
Most of us don't use the same gauge of strings that you guitar came from the factory with....
ME
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Post by Eddie on Jun 21, 2015 9:39:27 GMT -7
It's just one of those components that is very easy to change, and it's the one change you can make to an otherwise healthy tube amp that will make the biggest change in to the tone - much more of a change than tube swapping, imo.
I have a ceramic magnet 40 watt that's very efficient but dark and an old, reconditioned alnico 35 watt that is the opposite, very inefficient but bright. The difference between them makes the MAZ seem like two different amps. Both good.
Bottom line is it's kind of fun!
Eddie
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Post by Maddog on Jun 21, 2015 10:33:32 GMT -7
I think doc finds the best "compromise" speaker. He couldn't sell nearly as many amps if he put $300.00 speakers in them. You can always bet you're getting the best moderately priced speaker that will sound the best with any Z you buy. Doc has great ears and delivers! It's just that with a simple speaker swap you can easily enhance an already great amp if you want to dump some big $$$ or if you're after a slightly different sound.
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Post by lowbudget on Jun 21, 2015 13:40:58 GMT -7
I think doc finds the best "compromise" speaker. He couldn't sell nearly as many amps if he put $300.00 speakers in them. You can always bet you're getting the best moderately priced speaker that will sound the best with any Z you buy. Doc has great ears and delivers! It's just that with a simple speaker swap you can easily enhance an already great amp if you want to dump some big $$$ or if you're after a slightly different sound. I agree with Lee on this. I have been literally shocked at how good the standard G12H30 sounds in my new Maz Jr. Studio. Without having a specific need for something different I sure couldn't see changing it. |
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Post by GuitarZ on Jun 21, 2015 13:43:00 GMT -7
Even the Doc offers speaker upgrades on his amps if you check the price list. So, I would say he's okay with us swapping speakers to find our sound. Now me? I really don't want to pull out my Greenback from my Maz Jr because I figure there's a little mojo in it since it came from the factory like that. Although, I have no issues plugging it or my Ghia into my 1x12 cab where I occasionally swap out speakers. I do have to say that my Strat/Ghia/Tone Tubby combination really gives a great singing tone.
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Post by smolder on Jun 21, 2015 14:42:20 GMT -7
"Best" is highly subjective.
And, as was said earlier, speakers are an easy and powerful mod... As are tubes.
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Post by southmusic70 on Jun 21, 2015 14:43:47 GMT -7
Lots of variables, no question about it.
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Post by KeithA on Jun 21, 2015 14:52:56 GMT -7
My Dr Z heads didn't come with speakers.......so, mixing and matching is normal  |
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Post by pcns on Jun 21, 2015 15:20:26 GMT -7
I may change a speaker because ai want the amp to break up differently or want darker or brighter
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Post by supernaut on Jun 21, 2015 18:56:08 GMT -7
I tend to agree with bflatmaybe about Doc's choices. Having said that, my ear is not good enough to tell differences. I just know I like what I hear from Doc.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jun 21, 2015 19:02:30 GMT -7
It's a good question... and, like Eric, I also (usually) tend to gravitate back towards whatever style speaker the Doc chose.
However, here's one good point with the MAZ 18 Jr., for example: With a G12H-30 style speaker (heavy ceramic magnet) it's a classic rock monster; but, with a G12 Blue style speaker (low-power AlNiCo) it's more of a sparkly/jangly Brit-pop feel. Both are awesome tone & feel... just depends on the mood you're in or the music you want to play.
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Post by smolder on Jun 21, 2015 19:33:33 GMT -7
Sometimes different, is the variety that seems better, then the old becomes the different.
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Post by deluxetwelve on Jun 21, 2015 19:46:27 GMT -7
I have two Z heads (Route 66 and EZG50) so I had a bit of a blank slate in terms of speakers. I have acquired a couple each of 212 and 112s to play with. They all sound good, but different. It's fun!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 3:58:13 GMT -7
My ear gravitated toward a Marshall tone and Greenbacks, and after trying the Doc's recommended mod to the MAZ to bring out it's Marshall side, a Greenie sounded perfect to my ears.
Changing speakers is as easy as changing strings, albeit a bit more expensive. Same principle, however. Just because Gibson recommends 80/20 Gibson strings on a J-45, doesn't mean those are the strings that will suit everyone's ears.
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Post by smolder on Jun 22, 2015 8:35:47 GMT -7
I have two Z heads (Route 66 and EZG50) so I had a bit of a blank slate in terms of speakers. I have acquired a couple each of 212 and 112s to play with. They all sound good, but different. It's fun! If you get the itch, try an Altec (417/418) with thar Route 66... They work very well. |
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Post by simpleton on Jun 22, 2015 13:17:34 GMT -7
Different speakers bring out different characteristics in the amp and while stock speakers are often perfect I think that with Z amps many of us find an even more personal voice when finding a speaker to bring out the amp characteristics that match us even more... part of finding a signature tone is experimenting with parameters and understanding their influence.
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Post by eggman on Jun 25, 2015 23:53:13 GMT -7
Howdy,
Why make changes to an off-the-rack Guitar?
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Post by swiveltung on Jul 19, 2015 11:22:57 GMT -7
"Best " is a perception not objective to everyone. Nothing changes an amp more than speaker choice.
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