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Post by rocknacional on Feb 9, 2015 21:49:27 GMT -7
Hi, this is my first post. I did a search on the subject and found some info. However I would still have to ask you all if you have any experience with this specific configuration. What did you think of the tone and volume ? THANKS!!!
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Post by John on Feb 10, 2015 4:54:34 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum!
The greenback will sound fine with the ghia. The volume will be lower than some other speakers. (for a given amp setting)
The greenback is a 98db speaker. Other Celestions, like the blue, gold, Vintage 30 and G12H30 are 100db speakers. 2db may not sound like much, but it's enough to hear the difference. A 3db drop is like cutting your wattage in half. Like going from a 100 watt amp to a 50 watt amp.
As for tone, it will sound great. So great tone, but a little less volume is what you're going to get.
..oh, I see you've got a creamback. That's a 97db speaker, even quieter than a greenback. But heck you may need it with the Route 66!
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Post by rocknacional on Feb 10, 2015 9:20:42 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply, John.
I just finished installing the Greenback in my Ghia, and it sounds really nice. Not much of a volume change, I must say; however the previous speaker was a WHS Blackhawk, also rated at 98 dB, and that may be the reason why volume has not changed.
The tone DID change: the GB shows less bass, more treble with a huge presence, and the mid frequencies are... less pronounced but more defined? The WGS was a delight to listen to and it is supposed to be the WGS/American version of a Celestion Gold, hence it sounds very refined and all frequencies are very nicely represented, and very balanced. However, I always had an inclination towards Greenbacks, so here we are.
Any other Ghia/Greenback users would like to share their experiences?
Thanks!!!
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Post by freddieg on Feb 12, 2015 21:21:46 GMT -7
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Post by freddieg on Feb 12, 2015 21:29:51 GMT -7
I think there is some volume drop with a greenback, and it breaks up earlier. That is not a bad thing. But it is what it is with a lower sensitivity speaker.
Greenback emphasizes the mids and rounds off the highs which works well with the Ghia.
Greenback has a little less bass response as well.
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Post by rocknacional on Feb 13, 2015 12:28:30 GMT -7
That is interesting Big Kahuna. My Ghia with the GB has some very noticeable treble frequencies, a little shrill even. It may be due to the speaker being brand new... what do you think? Otherwise, I love the sound. I just dial the volume or tone back 2 clicks for now.
Great video by the way.
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2015 14:06:58 GMT -7
The speaker needs some time to break in. Brand new speakers can have a tendency to sound nasal. (Worst offender: V30) Once it's broken in, the cone can move back and forth more freely, and the bass response comes up to where it should be.
When new, the cone can't move as freely as it should, and the bass frequencies are reduced, so you get a lot of mids and highs. But it requires a lot of LOUD playing. Playing that will get the cone moving back and forth. The more, the better. (without burning up the speaker!)
I used to take new speakers and hook them up to my PA head. (no cabinet...just speaker) I'd wrap the speaker in sleeping bags/blankets and run bass drum loops through them for 40 hours. It did a great job.
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