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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 7:54:27 GMT -7
So, I impulse-bought a used remedy at a really good deal. What should I expect? I mean, know what it sounds like, but anything I need to know? I can run it through a 1x12 with a cream back, or a 2x10 with a Weber blue/silver combo.
On the 20 watt mode, how much louder will it be than my Ghia?
Thoughts?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 17, 2015 8:33:11 GMT -7
Which model? Do you have Master Volume on it? Works great through a 1x12 with Creamback - probably the most recommended speaker here for the Remedy. I use mine through a 1x12 Gold and it is fabulous. On 20 watts it will be a little louder than the Ghia, but they are pretty close (given the same speaker). On 40 watts - all I can think of is the word "authority." You're going to enjoy it.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 17, 2015 8:34:57 GMT -7
I echo what Steve says. It also sounds good through 4x10s!
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Post by heynewguy (Ol’ Bill) on Jan 17, 2015 9:56:10 GMT -7
I echo what Steve says. It also sounds good through 4x10s! And it's loud with the Doc's 4x10's!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 10:39:58 GMT -7
Non-MV. Should arrive Tuesday. I'll be using an attenuator. I can play relatively loud in the basement, but I like to not rattle the walls too much. Will be using mainly for recording, etc.
I'm pretty psyched- I think it will fit somewhere in the middle of the bright to dark spectrum, where my Ghia is pretty darn bright, and my Swart is pretty dark.
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Post by John on Jan 17, 2015 11:10:24 GMT -7
I A/B'd my Ghia and Remedy just the other day. I was surprised at how much louder the Remedy was...on 20 watts. It wasn't a huge amount, but definitely noticeable.
Here's what I do:
Starting with all tone knobs at noon, and both volumes off.... Begin turning the high volume (bright)up and get the volume and crunch you want. Then (even with your eyes closed) start bringing up the normal (bass oriented) volume knob until you get the amount of bass/low end you want. Then adjust the tone knobs to taste.
And if you have a closed back creamback, try the following. ...or any kind of greenback(s) speakers. (MUST be closed back)
This got me as close as possible to my old 1971 4 input Marshall. (called a 'metal panel'...just after the plexi version) ..and this has to be done with a humbucker guitar:
Turn the High volume up to a good crunch level...but keep the normal volume OFF. But make sure you never put the treble knob past noon. (more than likely somewhere a little before noon) Mids and bass to taste. Classic rock heaven!!
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Post by simpleton on Jan 17, 2015 13:07:39 GMT -7
The thing I think you'd might want to know about receiving this amp ... Really it's the #1 thing in my opinion. #1) You'll want to know that NOW you become and official 'Bad arse'. I hope you enjoy all of the privileges that go with the new title My Monza at 20 watts is the 'dominate' amp when I run the stereo set up with the Ghia. I do think that the wattage difference is a big part of that, however it also seems that the style of note delivery that the Monza has is more narrow/cutting and the Ghia is more full/robust ... perhaps some similar differences can or will be found with the Remedy. It took me awhile to acclimate myself to the more forceful delivery of the Monza.
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Post by nmz on Jan 17, 2015 13:32:18 GMT -7
Love it with a creamback! That and the gold are my favorite speakers with it. The creamback is nice because of its efficiency. Also consider a 5751 in V3, I just did this and really liked the results. I leave mine in 40 watt almost all the time but it has had the MV mod (which I highly recommend if possible). Lastly be prepared to ROCK!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 16:06:49 GMT -7
Lots of good thoughts here. Going to hold off on tube rolling and the MV mod for a bit to decide if it's a keeper. My thought, though, was that if it is a keeper, definitely getting the MV/EQ mods. But, that could be a little bit. I'm not going to lie- I'm a little concerned about the volume.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 17, 2015 19:29:04 GMT -7
Lots of good thoughts here. Going to hold off on tube rolling and the MV mod for a bit to decide if it's a keeper. My thought, though, was that if it is a keeper, definitely getting the MV/EQ mods. But, that could be a little bit. I'm not going to lie- I'm a little concerned about the volume. Well if your attenuator is the Airbrake, you can see via the link in my signature that 3 clicks == -6.6 db. That is like halving the power twice - mine works great with the Airbrake, even around the house.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 8:30:12 GMT -7
Out for delivery!
Conveniently drove to work today so I could get it home. Also managed to get the car inspected on the way in. Woo!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 15:28:20 GMT -7
I should add, the box has been taunting me in my office for the past 3 hours. I have not opened it yet. Gonna get out of here soon.
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Post by JeffG on Jan 20, 2015 15:40:37 GMT -7
Very exciting!!!!
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Post by big ( Al Z. ) on Jan 20, 2015 16:10:56 GMT -7
What's the opinion - closed or open back 1 x 12 with a Creamback ?
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Post by Funk#49 on Jan 20, 2015 16:19:33 GMT -7
Open it...open it! Congrats on the new Z. I'm looking at purchasing a Remedy myself in the next couple of months!
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Post by nmz on Jan 20, 2015 17:16:51 GMT -7
What's the opinion - closed or open back 1 x 12 with a Creamback ? Generally you will hear closed but I like it open as well. That is the cool thing about the Z convertable cabs. It also is the perfect speaker for the remedy. Gold is nice too but more efficient.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 18:30:38 GMT -7
Ok, got it home, unpacked it, and plugged in for approximately 4 minutes before my wife and son got home.
On 20 watt mode, and the same attenuator setting (Swart Night Light) as my Ghia, I'd say the Rem was a little louder. Not a massive difference, but a little. This bodes well for usability for me. I took John's suggestion above, and set the tone stack at noon on all three dials. Hi volume on about 11 o'clock, and normal about the same, maybe a little lower. Sweet crunchiness! Very touch sensitive, too. I was getting nice cleans just by changing the pick attack. Hit it hard, crunch. Touch lightly, spanky clean. Nice! Played like that for about two minutes, and thought "what the heck, I probably only have a couple minutes". I turned both volumes to 2 o'clock. Whoa! It's "that" sound! Zep/Crowes/Rival Sons, etc. Awesome! Rocked out the riffage for two more minutes, and the kid poked his head in the basement, and said "daddy, it's too loud. Come play trains with me". And that was all I got.
I should note this was through my 1x12 open back cab with a Creamback. Anyhow, so far, so good. It sounds like a nice fit in the middle of my Ghia (bright/chimey) and my Swart (warm/spongy). I'm hoping to get a little more time this weekend to rock it. But, yeah, I can see why so many of you guys love it.
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Post by John on Jan 21, 2015 5:34:49 GMT -7
Hi volume on about 11 o'clock, and normal about the same, maybe a little lower. I got to this part and I'm thinking: "NO! MORE!....turn those volume dials to the RIGHT!" Then got to this part: I turned both volumes to 2 o'clock. Whoa! It's "that" sound! Zep/Crowes/Rival Sons, etc. Awesome! YEAH!!!!!
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Post by ericatunc on Jan 21, 2015 9:04:01 GMT -7
Which guitar were you using? Ok, got it home, unpacked it, and plugged in for approximately 4 minutes before my wife and son got home. On 20 watt mode, and the same attenuator setting (Swart Night Light) as my Ghia, I'd say the Rem was a little louder. Not a massive difference, but a little. This bodes well for usability for me. I took John's suggestion above, and set the tone stack at noon on all three dials. Hi volume on about 11 o'clock, and normal about the same, maybe a little lower. Sweet crunchiness! Very touch sensitive, too. I was getting nice cleans just by changing the pick attack. Hit it hard, crunch. Touch lightly, spanky clean. Nice! Played like that for about two minutes, and thought "what the heck, I probably only have a couple minutes". I turned both volumes to 2 o'clock. Whoa! It's "that" sound! Zep/Crowes/Rival Sons, etc. Awesome! Rocked out the riffage for two more minutes, and the kid poked his head in the basement, and said "daddy, it's too loud. Come play trains with me". And that was all I got. I should note this was through my 1x12 open back cab with a Creamback. Anyhow, so far, so good. It sounds like a nice fit in the middle of my Ghia (bright/chimey) and my Swart (warm/spongy). I'm hoping to get a little more time this weekend to rock it. But, yeah, I can see why so many of you guys love it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 9:26:46 GMT -7
Which guitar were you using? Ok, got it home, unpacked it, and plugged in for approximately 4 minutes before my wife and son got home. On 20 watt mode, and the same attenuator setting (Swart Night Light) as my Ghia, I'd say the Rem was a little louder. Not a massive difference, but a little. This bodes well for usability for me. I took John's suggestion above, and set the tone stack at noon on all three dials. Hi volume on about 11 o'clock, and normal about the same, maybe a little lower. Sweet crunchiness! Very touch sensitive, too. I was getting nice cleans just by changing the pick attack. Hit it hard, crunch. Touch lightly, spanky clean. Nice! Played like that for about two minutes, and thought "what the heck, I probably only have a couple minutes". I turned both volumes to 2 o'clock. Whoa! It's "that" sound! Zep/Crowes/Rival Sons, etc. Awesome! Rocked out the riffage for two more minutes, and the kid poked his head in the basement, and said "daddy, it's too loud. Come play trains with me". And that was all I got. I should note this was through my 1x12 open back cab with a Creamback. Anyhow, so far, so good. It sounds like a nice fit in the middle of my Ghia (bright/chimey) and my Swart (warm/spongy). I'm hoping to get a little more time this weekend to rock it. But, yeah, I can see why so many of you guys love it. Grosh Set Neck. I need to find more than 4 minutes. Maybe tonight after my son goes to sleep. I would have last night, but my wife had a tough day at work, and I didn't want to annoy her more than she already was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 18:39:30 GMT -7
So (finally) got to plug in again for 30 minutes just now after my son went to sleep. Plugged in my Kauer (Think Les Paul Special, p-90s, wraptail, etc.). I had all the dials at noon. I'm convinced at this point that Doc would have had a winner on his hands if he made the Remedy with a power and standby switch with no knobs set like this. Effortless clean to grind with the guitar volume. And, it has enough headroom at that point that delay/modulations sounded good, other drives had their character/boost, and my newish JHS Firefly Fuzz sounded FANTASTIC. Wow. I'm sure I'll get around to turning the knobs again at some point, but it could be a bit.
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Post by John on Jan 22, 2015 19:58:17 GMT -7
Start nudging that bright volume knob to the right!
But you do make a good point: If every knob is pointed straight up, that would sound pretty good!
All knobs straight up? Somewhat similar to the Ghia with both knobs straight up...but with some real muscle behind it. Those big bottles don't fart out like the el84 can. (Not knocking the Ghia, I love mine)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 9:09:59 GMT -7
Yeah, that's my initial impression- a (much) more muscular Ghia, minus the bright, chiminess from the EL84s. So far, so good. Funny thing - I was telling my wife how I liked it, and was glad it wasn't massively loud, and she cut me off with "Uh, that was pretty loud." Me:"Louder than usual?" Her: "Yup."
Hmmm...
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Post by simpleton on Jan 23, 2015 10:00:39 GMT -7
Yeah, that's my initial impression- a (much) more muscular Ghia, minus the bright, chiminess from the EL84s. So far, so good. Funny thing - I was telling my wife how I liked it, and was glad it wasn't massively loud, and she cut me off with "Uh, that was pretty loud." Me:"Louder than usual?" Her: "Yup." Hmmm... REALLY??? Like a Ghia but more muscular ? .... I really need to get a chance to hear all these dad gum amps. I'd like to get something besides the EL84 power tube amps I have...Remedy, Therapy, JAZ 20/40...Route 66 even maybe....but I just keep telling myself," I'm happy, I'm happy, I'm happy" I am happy with my stereo rig (CG25th/Monza) but sometimes I think of trading them in for one of the ones with the 20/40 power rating or just a few more watts. At least you have a basement bro, I have to play in the living room - BUT most the time my lovelies like it !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 11:24:30 GMT -7
Well, yes and no. At that setting, the similarity would be how easily you can get from gain to clean with pick attack or guitar volume. There's a big difference from the EL84 breakup vs. 6V6 breakup. And of course, there's a TON more gain in the Rem vs. the Ghia.
I've had a Z28 and a Route 66 at different times, and liked them both. But, they weren't great fits in my amp palette. The 28 was very close in tone to my Swart AST (not a bad thing, but redundant), and the 66 was WAY to much amp (holy balls loud) for me. So far, the Rem attenuated in 20 watt mode is acceptable volume wise, and the tone fits nicely between my Ghia and my Swart. I really did it so far.
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Post by nmz on Jan 23, 2015 12:40:45 GMT -7
Yeah, that's my initial impression- a (much) more muscular Ghia, minus the bright, chiminess from the EL84s. So far, so good. Funny thing - I was telling my wife how I liked it, and was glad it wasn't massively loud, and she cut me off with "Uh, that was pretty loud." Me:"Louder than usual?" Her: "Yup." Hmmm... Sounds like she would appreciate the MV mod !
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Post by wubberdubber on Jan 23, 2015 16:13:41 GMT -7
LOVE my non-MV Remedy...the one amp I've found that's VERY close to the old '74 Marshall 50W head that was my main amp for years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 16:52:35 GMT -7
Yeah, that's my initial impression- a (much) more muscular Ghia, minus the bright, chiminess from the EL84s. So far, so good. Funny thing - I was telling my wife how I liked it, and was glad it wasn't massively loud, and she cut me off with "Uh, that was pretty loud." Me:"Louder than usual?" Her: "Yup." Hmmm... Sounds like she would appreciate the MV mod ! Yeah, she probably would. How quiet will the MV go?
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Post by nmz on Jan 23, 2015 18:15:51 GMT -7
Sounds like she would appreciate the MV mod ! Yeah, she probably would. How quiet will the MV go? Very usable, no brainer in my opinion. Almost as good as the Therapy and better then the Anni. Ghia MV. And if you do not like it I think it would be easier to sell.
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Post by heynewguy (Ol’ Bill) on Jan 23, 2015 18:39:34 GMT -7
Missing my Remedy. I sure would like to try a MV model.
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