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Post by jgoody333 on Dec 16, 2014 10:14:32 GMT -7
I got a 2006 Maz 38 SR reverb 1x12. And i seriously love the thing, it has a brake so i can break it up nicely and it awoke me in a way that i have been unable to find after 12 years in the military, 3 deployments, and subsequant divorce (sob story i know haha).I have since gotten out and am trying to get back into playing live and making some music. So i have the cleaner thing nailed down.
However, I am wanting some more growl so Im on the prowl for an amp with more (can i cuss on this forum?) "bottom end", and not the frequency sort. At any rate, I have located 3 amps i am interested in. Obviously the Remedy, but also the marshall 1959hw, and a divided by 13 jjn or maybe the ldw 17/39 which seems to be the baby brother to the jjn.
In addition, I do have a 1982 JCM800 4104 that has managed to retain some very plexi roots, as it was made before the major jcm 800 alterations if my research has served me well, but of course feel free to correct me.
Just looking for a good thread on the Remedy and how its circuitry and tone differs from the other plexi like circuits. I'm not trying to have a z vs marshall opinion debate but a more intricate comparison of the actual make up of the amps.
If i have just spent 30 minutes writing this (looking over my shoulder in the office at work working for the literal "man", the man that the quote working for the man comes from) and it has already been discussed elsewhere, do forgive me.
Thanks for you time and advice/conversation in advance.
J
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Post by wubberdubber on Dec 16, 2014 10:20:12 GMT -7
Go to the Remedy section on the home page and have at it, bro....there's PLENTY of Remedy info there.
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Post by jgoody333 on Dec 16, 2014 10:41:31 GMT -7
thats where i came from initially, didnt find any direct comparisons of the circuits, i mean there is general info but i didn't have time to comb through it all, i will once i get off. i am also interested in how the 6v6 is going to compare to the el34, i'm sure that is on here also somewhere... well hopefully my charming personality is at least entertaining.
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Post by John on Dec 16, 2014 11:49:52 GMT -7
On those old 4 input Marshalls, most everyone used a jumper cable on the lower left to upper right input jacks so you could use both channels at the same time.
The Doc has already made this 'jump' a permanent part of the amp. ....so this is different. Not really different, as it sets the amp the way most people used them.
You have to get to the power section of the amp before things become different. 1) different tubes, 2) different power transformer, 3) added 1/2 power switch and master volume.
The difference in power tube tone will be slight. It's far overshadowed by speaker choice, speaker cabinet choice, choice of guitar/pickups...etc.
I'm an old 4 input Marshall guy myself. Hook a Remedy up to a closed back cabinet with greenback, then get out a humbucker guitar...and it's classic rock heaven.
Talking about the micro differences between various plexi flavored amps should be put aside in favor of more playing/practicing the guitar.
I hear people talking about "this capacitor or resistor" or "that transformer"....blah, blah, blah....shut up and play guitar! (just my opinion!) Not to mention, a 1959 and a /13 JJN are friggin LOUD. 100 watt amps, in my opinion, are a complete waste of time. You'll never get those power tubes cooking hot enough to get the magic tone out of them.
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Post by jgoody333 on Dec 16, 2014 16:52:22 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply, I'm 97% sold on the remedy, and really the major challenge I'm having is deciding between the remedy, the antidote, and the kt45. Soooo, I lied earlier, I'm juggling 5 amps -my hands are full. Hahaha And I dig your logic for sure. More playing less asking a bunch of questions.
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Post by John on Dec 16, 2014 17:38:15 GMT -7
the Remedy and Antidote are very much in the same ballpark. But the KT45 is a VERY different amp! The preamp section is completely different. The preamp has an ef86....and it reacts very differently than a plexi. Neither better or worse...just different. And like the Antidote... the KT45 is LOUD!!
And between the Remedy and the Antidote: The Remedy has the 1/2 power switch and the master volume. So for me, the Remedy is IT!
Get yourself a master volume Remedy. You won't regret it.
And if you do...get a cabinet with some kind of greenback (or clone) in there. That speaker and amp are made for each other.
There are a LOT of people on the forum who like the the Celestion 'creamback M' .....a high powered greenback. (me included) I waited decades for this speaker.
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Post by iluvpunz on Dec 16, 2014 23:21:49 GMT -7
^^^^ I second all of the above that John is saying. Closed back Greenbacks or Creambacks open or closed are the ticket with the Remedy. If you play small to larger room gigs or at home go with the Remedy with the master volume and eq bypass. If you should play really large rooms or outdoor gigs then you might want to go with the Antidote. The Antidote is a fantastic amp but is really meant for large stage large venue applications. Just my two cents.
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Post by jgoody333 on Dec 17, 2014 10:43:50 GMT -7
Awesome. I didn't realize the therapy and antidote were so similar. Ok so let's say i get the remedy, with greenbacks. (Which is highly likely)-
I got the jcm with g12-65 to cover the harder stufff, The therapy for some good medium stuff. The maz for cleans and low overdrive.
I basically use amps like pedals, so I'm also looking for Amps that are original and different. Would the kt 45 compliment the others above well?
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Post by John on Dec 17, 2014 11:03:25 GMT -7
Very much so.
Those amps that share the same preamp: KT 45, Route 66 and the Z-28 are very different amps. They are unlike any you've listed.
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Post by jgoody333 on Dec 17, 2014 11:17:33 GMT -7
You guys are awesome. thanks!! So now I gotta find some extra change laying around.
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Post by JeffG on Dec 27, 2014 22:01:58 GMT -7
I know I'm a little late to this thread, but I just wanted to "third" everything John said, especially about the speaker pairing with the Remedy.
I wouldn't recommend the Remedy to everyone but it sounds like this amp could easily do what you're looking for. It's a Z so it's already incredible and man does it sing when you play it right!
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