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Post by obm on Sept 26, 2014 14:16:54 GMT -7
I'd like to know how these two would compare? I own a Dr Z Maz 18 nr head and I love it, but I need something quieter for the house and for some quiet gigs too. Right now I've got a Victoria 518 at home to try, anyone has ever tried both?
The Mini Z and Victoria 518 must be in the same ballpark, using El84, both 5 watts, both 8 inch speakers.
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Post by obm on Sept 26, 2014 14:27:09 GMT -7
Oh wait, the Victoria uses 6V6
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Post by supernaut on Sept 28, 2014 5:29:58 GMT -7
When you say "same ballpark" are you referring to price? There is also the 2nd generation Mini Z which has a 10" speaker rather than the 8" AND it has the attenuator as well. I had both generation Mini Z's and to my ear, the 10" one with attenuator sounded better (always a subjective thing).
Depending on what your price range is, there is also the Dr. Z Monza (with post phase inverter master volume--ppmv) which I absolutely love.
The Mini Z is still pretty darn loud fully attenuated for home use (ironically, that's why I went with the Monza, a true rock 'n' roll beast! and WAY louder without the ppimv).
Hope this helps.
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Post by freddieg on Sept 14, 2015 17:26:05 GMT -7
Would also be interested in knowing if the Mini Z or the Fender Champ is " louder" - assuming the Z is a 1x10 and both have a high efficiency ceramic speaker. Thoughts ? Thanks Gray
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Post by meanslide on Sept 15, 2015 10:25:44 GMT -7
Would also be interested in knowing if the Mini Z or the Fender Champ is " louder" - assuming the Z is a 1x10 and both have a high efficiency ceramic speaker. Thoughts ? Thanks Gray I've had both, although not at the exact same time. My V2 Mini-Z head was first paired with an Weber Sig 8" speaker, same at the V1 Mini's. Then I opted for the 1X10 w/ a Dr Z Red Fang. My Champ was a 1969 drip edge, all stock. Not a fair fight, IMO. The Mini-Z wins hands down on volume, especially with the 10". The Champ stayed cleaner farther up the dial, but the Mini had sweeter, more musical cleans when down low, and much better breakup and grind when pushed. The Champ sort of farted out once it got cookin'. Some of the sweetest musical clean tones can be had from a Mini-Z, V about 9-10 o'clock through an 8 or 10" speaker. Even some 12's, like the Greenback, sounded great with it. I only had the Champ for a couple of months, sold it 'cause it just wasn't a Mini-Z.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Sept 16, 2015 2:28:08 GMT -7
Meanslide is right on. I've got two Champs, both silverface. Nice amps, but my Mini-Z with the attenuator and 10" speaker creams them. I took my Mini to my swing band rehearsal last night. We're working up a cover of the Blues Brothers opener of their first album that morphs into "Soul Man". We rehearse in a big church sanctuary, and the band is a big band with saxes, trumpets, trombones, keys, bass, drums, and guitar. The Mini was set with Volume at 10:00, no attenuation. I hit my Z-Drive green channel and with my Strat it sounded HUGE. That signature Steve Cropper riff came out over everyone else just fine. I seriously doubt that a Champ could have done nearly as well. All that said, I'm still going to rock my Z-Lux at gigs.
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Post by jimmysmith on Sept 17, 2015 8:06:42 GMT -7
yeah, i have a peavy classic 20. a goodsell champ,ive had a richter, i use a mini z live now with a trio, i love it a lot.i have a z 2/10 cab that i want to put 10" greenbacks in. this thing is great unmic'd in small clubs,,, its the bomb for me, and i have several bigger classier amps, but the mini gets the gig. i love it on about 1 oclock attenuator off, i dont use pedals with it either.. go figure,, ive had em all from the ghia to the kt ( of course i am old now!)
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