Post by gplayer1965 on Aug 8, 2014 19:44:24 GMT -7
Reality is that you can't go wrong with either amp. Had a Rem for a short period of time and liked it. Only reason I sold was to purchase the Therapy. Now, if given the hard choice i would take the Therapy for hard rock anyday...ask MarkT
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Aug 8, 2014 22:59:58 GMT -7
I owned and gigged a Remedy for about 18 months - GREAT amp! I traded it for a Therapy and got serial # 2 a few weeks back. I've gigged it 2-3 times now.
So, here's the thing. I traded because I changed bands, and needed a tougher sounding amp, or more accurately, a more modern sounding amp, and to me, that's the key difference between the two: Remedy is 60s rock; Therapy is late70s/early 80s rock - and I mean tone-wise only. What I'm finding is, unless you need the Remedy really cooking, the Therapy can cover that ground too, but not the other way around so much.
The Remedy has more distortion on tap, but I found that I had to be careful not to drive it too hard gigging, because it could get lost in the mix and "fizz out" slightly and over-saturates. It has a grainy OD tone with a fizz and sizzle, which if controlled, sounds wonderful! I tended to max the Hi Volume, and run my Guitar Volume quite low, and that let me rock out without too much distortion, yet let the amp find its harmonic mojo - there is an upper-mid slight harshness to the Remedy you have to watch out for, which the right speaker can tame.
The Therapy has more gain and less distortion, and its OD tone is much smoother and VERY harmonically rich. It also stays clearer right up to the max on everything! It never fizzes out or over-saturates. Also it is the most dynamic and touch sensitive amp I've ever played - there's a Dumble-esque characteristic going on here - you right hand REALLY comes into to play! Hold back and it cleans up; lay in and she BITES! Very cool!
My new band plays a lot of rock (classic, indie, modern: The Stones; Black Crowes; Foo Fighters; Queens of the Stones Age; that sort of thing) and the Therapy is PERFECT! I found the Remedy needed pedals to try and get that 'edge" needed for this stuff; the Therapy needs nothing, just a better player to do it justice!
As an added bonus, the Therapy also has rich, thick, harmonic GLORIOUS cleans too, should the need arise!
In summary, I loved my Remedy when I had it; but I am in love with my Therapy - I have never played a better amp, ever!
I hope this helps..............
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" - John Lennon
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THERAPY Blonde head Z28 Blonde head 1x12 Z cab w/ Eminence Governor Gone but NEVER forgotten - Remedy Blonde head Maz18 1x12 Blonde Carmen Ghia 1x10 Blonde Monza Blonde head
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Yeah--I can't speak to its suitability for covering a specific five years of the classic rock songbook, but I much prefer the Therapy to the Rem. Pete's exactly right about the Rem's top end fizz/sizzle; it needs a pretty dark speaker to balance that out. The Therapy has a much more useable EQ section, the MV is extremely good (although it does get a bit thin/fizzy with the V semi-cranked and the MV at 9:00 or below--nature of the beast, maybe), and as a mid-powered amp running big tubes, the Therapy has that thump and pants-moving authority you won't get from the Maz. I love it with pedals--the whole mid-range just kills, the bass stays tight no matter what, and while the top end is VERY present with the tone stack at 12/12/12, you can roll it off no prob to fit your guitar/rig/room. I've owned a bunch of Zs at this point, and while I was on the fence the first day or so the Therapy is now one of my all-time favorite amps. Very rich tones, very versatile, plenty of power when you want it but also plays nice in small spaces. Well played, Doc--well played!
Last Edit: Aug 9, 2014 9:07:12 GMT -7 by FleaWreck
Jetta studio combo Z-Wreck Junior combo Z-Lux combo: red/ZW Friedman Mini Dirty Shirley and matching cab Too many guitars Too many pedals
Both are great amps, but Therapy has my attention.
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