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Post by manbearpig on May 9, 2014 20:46:11 GMT -7
I have a Ghia. Love it. Have the means to get another amp and have been thinkng about something in the tweed family or something in the blackface family. Which would be less like my Ghia? In other words, which is more different than the Ghia--blackface or tweed?
Maybe I should get a Z28.
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Post by lowbudget on May 10, 2014 5:11:50 GMT -7
I think the Ghia would be far more removed from the BF than the Tweed. The Ghia definitely isn't a Tweed sound, but some of it's characteristics are closer to tweed than BF.
Just my opinion of course.
And you didn't ask this, but playing around a little with tubes and speaker choices can give the Ghia many different sounds. Maybe not just like other amps per se, but like several different sounds in one little box. It's a very unique circuit IMO, and there's a reason why it's a perennial best seller.
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Post by John on May 10, 2014 6:06:40 GMT -7
The Z-28 is very different from the Ghia. (I have a Ghia and have had a Z-28)
Do you want something in the same power level? Or something more powerful for bigger gigs/stages?
In the same power category, the Z-28 would be a great compliment to the Ghia as they sound different. If you want a more powerful amp for bigger stages, the Remedy would be a nice choice. Although the Remedy sounds closer to the Ghia than the Z-28 does.
And if you want louder AND different: Route 66 or KT-45
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Post by manbearpig on May 10, 2014 6:37:10 GMT -7
Yeah, something in the same power range as Ghia. I mostly record and play at home, and occasionally a jam session. I can't see myself having more than a couple of amps. Right now it's just the Ghia. I figure if I get another amp, I want something quite different, just to have a broader pallet. Something like a Maz Jr, while different, isn't different enough for me. The Z-28 is very different from the Ghia. (I have a Ghia and have had a Z-28) Do you want something in the same power level? Or something more powerful for bigger gigs/stages? In the same power category, the Z-28 would be a great compliment to the Ghia as they sound different. If you want a more powerful amp for bigger stages, the Remedy would be a nice choice. Although the Remedy sounds closer to the Ghia than the Z-28 does. And if you want louder AND different: Route 66 or KT-45 |
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Post by Ridgeback on May 10, 2014 7:09:57 GMT -7
I've had both and still have the Z-28. Pretty much what John said. I voted blackface as being the most different but to me, the Ghia doesn't sound much like a tweed amp either.
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Post by pcns on May 10, 2014 14:21:59 GMT -7
I second the motion toward the Z28. Awesome amp with a great voice and very different from the Ghia. My 2 cents, Todd  |
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on May 10, 2014 15:56:11 GMT -7
Agreed with all of the above; that's all you need to know, really--the Z-28 is one phenomenal amp.
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Post by manbearpig on May 12, 2014 16:32:04 GMT -7
Good info guys. Thanks. How does the Z28 headroom compare to Ghia? I recently obtained a 335 (before this all single coils) and find that to get any usable clean tones I need the volume way down on both the Ghia and the guitar. Just one of my considerations. I really like the Ghia's clean tones with my strat and tele pickups, but they just seem nonexistent with the 335.
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Post by meanslide on May 13, 2014 14:10:17 GMT -7
I've got all three right now - a Ghia, a tweed Harvard clone (Vic' Ivy League), and a BF Super Reverb. I think the tweed is plenty far away enough from the CG to have both. I run a 335 through the Vic and get some great cleans much higher up the volume than I do with the CG.
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Post by simpleton on May 15, 2014 21:18:09 GMT -7
Good info guys. Thanks. How does the Z28 headroom compare to Ghia? I recently obtained a 335 (before this all single coils) and find that to get any usable clean tones I need the volume way down on both the Ghia and the guitar. Just one of my considerations. I really like the Ghia's clean tones with my strat and tele pickups, but they just seem nonexistent with the 335. With my Ghia and P90's or hummys if I wanted more clean tones I'd try to keep the tone left of noon maybe a little more. Sometimes that can work nice with my ES-125T. I'd think blackface more different because the Ghia roar and a tweed roar seem in the same family to me....as far as roars go. have fun |
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Post by meanslide on May 16, 2014 8:44:58 GMT -7
Good info guys. Thanks. How does the Z28 headroom compare to Ghia? I recently obtained a 335 (before this all single coils) and find that to get any usable clean tones I need the volume way down on both the Ghia and the guitar. Just one of my considerations. I really like the Ghia's clean tones with my strat and tele pickups, but they just seem nonexistent with the 335. With my Ghia and P90's or hummys if I wanted more clean tones I'd try to keep the tone left of noon maybe a little more. Sometimes that can work nice with my ES-125T. I'd think blackface more different because the Ghia roar and a tweed roar seem in the same family to me....as far as roars go. have fun I'd agree on the roar part, especially if your talking 5E3 (Deluxe tweed). The ol' Harvard tweed has been called 1/4 tweed Bassman. A lot more cleans to be had. I guess it all depends on which tweed amp the OP is considering. |
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Post by bigsbybender on May 20, 2014 2:55:54 GMT -7
Good info guys. Thanks. How does the Z28 headroom compare to Ghia? I recently obtained a 335 (before this all single coils) and find that to get any usable clean tones I need the volume way down on both the Ghia and the guitar. Just one of my considerations. I really like the Ghia's clean tones with my strat and tele pickups, but they just seem nonexistent with the 335. The Z28 has noticeably more headroom than the Ghia. |
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Post by doctorice on May 20, 2014 5:15:02 GMT -7
I spent several hours playing an EC Strat through my Ghia yesterday. Imo, the Ghia is nearer the tweed sound than it is a blackface sound.
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Post by gitaryzt1985 on May 20, 2014 8:02:50 GMT -7
Too me, the Ghia sits right there in between a Marshall and Vox. I think that the Z tone is so defined that it really needs to be in it's own category. I know that Fender/Marshall/Vox are the standard, but to me the Ghia is like a fatter Maz tone  Anyways, when I play a Fender, I'm always wanting more hair and fatter cleans. Enter Ghia. The Maz I had was really great at sparkly jangly cleans, but there is this underlying thickness that accompanies the sound of the Ghia that I prefer to the Maz. I had a Marshall Class 5 that reminded me a little of the Ghia. It was a very woody, thick tone that was clear, but had much more robustness to the tone than any Fender. The Ghia sounds far better than the Class 5 for sure, but just saying. Tweed or Blackface? Neither....it's a Z tone |
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Post by simpleton on May 20, 2014 9:19:09 GMT -7
Tweed or Blackface? Neither....it's a Z tone At the end of the day this is probably the most correct assessment of Ghia tone in the end. It's a Z "thang" |
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Post by swiveltung on May 28, 2014 10:13:30 GMT -7
I'm thinkin BFDR for similar power and different sound. Z28 way louder than the Ghia to my ears.
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