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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 11:52:41 GMT -7
So, got everything set up at the practice space on Wednesday, including the pedalboard. Bassist was late, due to parking issues (sigh...DC parking). He goes to plug in, and realizes he left his cable at home. D'oh! So, rather than have him go home and get one, thus wasting more time, I gave him the cable connecting my board to the amp, and plugged directly into the Ghia. I converted my Ghia combo to a head/cab a couple weeks ago, and have been plugging it into some cruddy Marshall 4x12 that is at the space (whoa-loud). So, I set the volume to WFO, and worked the guitar volume for cleaner/dirtier.
The results were pretty good, I thought. Yes, I could have used a bit more gain at times, but the sound was damn fine! The rest of the band was somewhat incredulous that I could cover most of our stuff without pedals, especially the other guitar player, who I'm continually calling out on his crap tone with his 17 (really!) pedal setup.
I don't know that I'd want to gig straight in, but for practices, this might be the way to go. No pedalboard=20 lbs less crap to lug around. Its not like I use a ton of pedals, anyhow - 6 non-tuner units. I could probably get by with 3 if I had to, but variety of drive textures is nice. I dunno. This might be the beginning of a trend!
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Post by simpleton on Sept 27, 2013 13:09:41 GMT -7
I just did the same thing with my Ghia...out of the combo into a head - Lovin' it. As far as pedals go....Sometimes it really helps to pull them out of way so that you focus on the actual guitar parts in there purest most "classic rockish" way. I'll do this from time to time to re examine what I actually need in a song or as a guitarist. Many times I think I'd like more gain or more sustain but a lot of that is a security blanket for me. Strip away to rekindle the raw essence and add back to rekindle the flavors....It's a cycle for me and has helped to eliminate a lot of distractions.
Keep rockin' brother
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Post by bwc on Sept 27, 2013 13:50:13 GMT -7
That's cool man, it's liberating to just plug in and rock! The OD tones from the ghia are phenomenal
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 13:54:39 GMT -7
That's cool man, it's liberating to just plug in and rock! The OD tones from the ghia are phenomenal Yeah, I play without pedals at home a bunch, but was a little skeptical that I could pull it off with the band. I could do 95% of our stuff with the Ghia & King of Tone pedal, that's for certain. I do kinda need a fuzz for one song, though. And a delay for a couple others. But, really, that's about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 13:56:29 GMT -7
I just did the same thing with my Ghia...out of the combo into a head - Lovin' it. As far as pedals go....Sometimes it really helps to pull them out of way so that you focus on the actual guitar parts in there purest most "classic rockish" way. I'll do this from time to time to re examine what I actually need in a song or as a guitarist. Many times I think I'd like more gain or more sustain but a lot of that is a security blanket for me. Strip away to rekindle the raw essence and add back to rekindle the flavors....It's a cycle for me and has helped to eliminate a lot of distractions. Keep rockin' brother The one thing I didn't like was I felt I was concentrating a bit too much on the GV, and right hand techniques as far as getting less gain/more gain, etc. It was a little distracting, and I definitely flubbed some stuff due to that. Its more that I'm not well practiced in that art than anything else, though! |
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Post by uncleebeneezer on Sept 27, 2013 17:21:25 GMT -7
I play mostly funk. I have a horn section but no keys or 2nd guitar so I'm the only one who can play chords. If I were in a band with keys/2nd guitar I would probably just play direct or with maybe just a boost pedal. But yeah, having no pedals really helps you work on making your playing more expressive just with your fingers, phrasing, pick attack etc. It's a great exercise to keep things fresh.
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Post by heynewguy (Ol’ Bill) on Sept 27, 2013 17:31:19 GMT -7
Congrats! you just earned your "big boy" pants!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 17:45:37 GMT -7
Congrats! you just earned your "big boy" pants! Funny! |
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Post by simpleton on Sept 27, 2013 17:58:25 GMT -7
Congrats! you just earned your "big boy" pants! Funny! I'm pretty sure he's saying that he's getting you an Antidote....  |
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Post by John on Sept 28, 2013 5:25:37 GMT -7
I normally use a Line6 M9...with all it's multi effects. It's a great unit, but truth be told, I'm not a big effects guy. I don't feel the need to have multi stuff running all the time.
Occasionally, I'll play a gig with my trusty ol' Boss overdrive...and that's it. Sometimes the stage is too small, sometimes it's a festival and we play only one set, sometimes I need to get setup FAST and get off the stage FAST. But we're not playing U2, Rush or 80's guitar music where lots of effects are needed.
And unless your other guitar player has put a lot of thought and time into his pedalboard...with buffers, maybe a preamp/micro amp or two: I can't see a 17 pedalboard having anything less than crap tone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 9:03:37 GMT -7
Wait, "can of angry bees" isn't good tone? Kind of kills me, as the practice space has a nice Fender Super reissue that he puts that stuff through. It *should* sound good.
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Post by nmz on Sept 28, 2013 13:23:07 GMT -7
Ghia is great for those situations. Really love the MV on the anni. in those (GV) situations.
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Post by ericatunc on Sept 30, 2013 7:11:49 GMT -7
We play rock and I've been keeping the Ghia clean while running a Wampler Plexi-Drive or Surh Riot for OD/Distortion. Halfway through I decided to turn off the pedals and use the Ghia's volume to get the gain (I have the 25h anniv.). I found that it cut through much better (with buckers). I'll be exploring this further. I stil have other pedals (delay, phaser, wah, xotic EP).
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Post by simpleton on Sept 30, 2013 9:17:53 GMT -7
Seems like the success of this style of - Cranked amp>guitar - and just working the volume & tone pots means that quality pots & capacitors are of the utmost importance so that you have a proper range of twist to work with....Some of my rides do that better than others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 10:45:52 GMT -7
Definitely. I've been mostly playing my Grosh ElectraJet, and it does this very well. Also helps to have not super hot pickups that want to go straight to grind. Playing again Wednesday night. Thinking of leaving the board at home this time. Maybe bring a clip on tuner just in case.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 16:54:24 GMT -7
I play mostly funk. I have a horn section but no keys or 2nd guitar so I'm the only one who can play chords. If I were in a band with keys/2nd guitar I would probably just play direct or with maybe just a boost pedal. But yeah, having no pedals really helps you work on making your playing more expressive just with your fingers, phrasing, pick attack etc. It's a great exercise to keep things fresh. I totally agree. You get a better feel from the amp when you plug straight in. It is also a bigger challenge when you have no effects to rely on. The tone is in your hands. You get more out of the guitar and amp. |
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Post by meanslide on Oct 7, 2013 20:38:54 GMT -7
Seems like the success of this style of - Cranked amp>guitar - and just working the volume & tone pots means that quality pots & capacitors are of the utmost importance so that you have a proper range of twist to work with....Some of my rides do that better than others. +1 on the Cranked Ghia>Guitar! Working the guitar volume and tone is all I ever use anymore. There are so many levels of 'grind' and all of them are better than any pedal I've ever heard. |
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