Post by JChance on Mar 14, 2007 17:28:26 GMT -7
Ok, this is a pretty fair comparison as the speakers all share the same basic topology. The Eminence PJ and the ceramic Blues and Silvers are all inspired by the Celestion Greenback-types of the late 60's.
So after trying the Tonker for a few gigs in my new 1 12" Dr. Z cabinet, I took it back tot he music shop and exchanged it for a Private Jack.
After looking at the specs, this was going to be the closest Eminence to what I was used to with the Webers I normally use...
I've done gigs the last few nights with the Private Jack, and here are my thoughts after it's gotten pounded and loosened up:
First of all, not a bad speaker at all. Definitely has the Greenback vibe, but with a fatter low end. Overall, the tone was pretty balanced with both my Route 66 and MAZ 38. And the tone was right in the ballpark with the 50 watt ceramic Blues & Silvers.
It certainly is a "good" sounding speaker, but ultimately leaves a bit to be desired...
Compared to the Webers, there is significantly less detail. You could just say that the PJ is a bit darker overall, but I don't think that would be a fair indication of what the Webers do.
The Webers have solid lows, especially the Silver. The PJ has solid lows as well, but is a bit more "boomy," and it's most noticeable at stage volumes with a band. It's like there are a few annoying frequencies from the speaker when you are playing in certain positions. Sort of conflicts with the bass/keys, or whatever other instrument you are on stage with.
Making this factor even more apparent is it's lack of high end detail.
And I'm not talking "brightness." I'm talking about a certain "air" that you get on clean tones, especially when doing single note lines.
So, yes, most of you know that I wave the Weber banner pretty thoroughly... But in trying to be as completely objective as I can, I think it's only fair to say that the Private Jack does a nice job.
But to my ears, it just doesn't sound as musical as the Webers. I will say that it sounds much better than many of the OEM Eminence's I've played through and would be a good economical upgrade for a "production" type amp.
Problem is, I paid $85 plus tax at a dealer, and the Webers are only $10 more & are hand-built. Plus, you can choose a ton of options with the Weber.
Private Jack- good
Weber Blue or Silver ceramic- better in just about every phase
So after trying the Tonker for a few gigs in my new 1 12" Dr. Z cabinet, I took it back tot he music shop and exchanged it for a Private Jack.
After looking at the specs, this was going to be the closest Eminence to what I was used to with the Webers I normally use...
I've done gigs the last few nights with the Private Jack, and here are my thoughts after it's gotten pounded and loosened up:
First of all, not a bad speaker at all. Definitely has the Greenback vibe, but with a fatter low end. Overall, the tone was pretty balanced with both my Route 66 and MAZ 38. And the tone was right in the ballpark with the 50 watt ceramic Blues & Silvers.
It certainly is a "good" sounding speaker, but ultimately leaves a bit to be desired...
Compared to the Webers, there is significantly less detail. You could just say that the PJ is a bit darker overall, but I don't think that would be a fair indication of what the Webers do.
The Webers have solid lows, especially the Silver. The PJ has solid lows as well, but is a bit more "boomy," and it's most noticeable at stage volumes with a band. It's like there are a few annoying frequencies from the speaker when you are playing in certain positions. Sort of conflicts with the bass/keys, or whatever other instrument you are on stage with.
Making this factor even more apparent is it's lack of high end detail.
And I'm not talking "brightness." I'm talking about a certain "air" that you get on clean tones, especially when doing single note lines.
So, yes, most of you know that I wave the Weber banner pretty thoroughly... But in trying to be as completely objective as I can, I think it's only fair to say that the Private Jack does a nice job.
But to my ears, it just doesn't sound as musical as the Webers. I will say that it sounds much better than many of the OEM Eminence's I've played through and would be a good economical upgrade for a "production" type amp.
Problem is, I paid $85 plus tax at a dealer, and the Webers are only $10 more & are hand-built. Plus, you can choose a ton of options with the Weber.
Private Jack- good
Weber Blue or Silver ceramic- better in just about every phase