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Post by DRem on May 16, 2013 23:24:23 GMT -7
Ok
I have just got a remedy delivered from peaches. Had a bit of play and do like it.... don't love it yet though! Got a maz 18nr and would have to sell the maz to help pay for the remedy. So this is going to be a tough call.
I have a Dr z 1x12 with a gold in there and play strat and a tele.
I'm going to try some settings John gave me from peaches tonight but what does everyone else recommend?
20w, master up quite high everything noon?
so far I found it doesn't take pedals as well as the maz. My delay sounded different going through the remedy. I don't use the effects loop on the Maz either.
The cleans are great more bold than the maz and can get to overdrive easily. Its going to be a tough call.
The great thing also it fits in my Maz studio slip case!
Looking forward to really testing it our tonight, but any suggestions would be great
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on May 17, 2013 0:38:00 GMT -7
Hey Dean, As for your delay, now that's an interesting one - are you a big delay user? Yes, the Maz takes delay on the front end better than the Remedy because the Remedy gives up the dirt quicker. A delay into the front of a dirty amp is not a pleasant sound as the repeats are too dirty. I've stopped using slapback echo on my solos for this reason - and don't miss it either. Try TM&B at noon (then fine tune for the venue); H&N V about 11; MV to taste (but try and keep it above 10 if you can) - that gets me enough dirt when I dig in, but let's me use delay when I need it. I use delay as a modulation effect on 3-4 songs, not as an ambient effect. If you use it as an ambient effect then the Maz will handle it better IMHO. I find the more of the amp's natural drive I use, the less I use delay or reverb (I have a micro 'verb pedal on most of the time for ambience, but just a touch) At the moment, I'm experimenting with slightly different settings (TM&B - 11; H&N V - noon) as this gives the EQ Bypass a bigger volume boost, which I need to cut through out keyboard player, who likes to turn his volume UP when I solo. Not the most generous of musicians, but it's more through ignorance than malice) The Remedy will take a bit of getting used to if you're familiar with the Maz, but I think of all Z amps as instruments, and just like getting a new, and different, guitar, it takes a few plays to feel totally comfortable with them. Same with Z amps - you need to set them up, as you would a guitar. The thing is, the Remedy, like the Z28, is a balancing act on the controls - there's a high degree of interaction between them, and only by messing with them will you get a feel for them. This is much more so on the Remedy than with the Maz in my experience. I guess the balancing act between the 2 Vs on the Maz is comparable. Anyway, good luck tonight! I don't envy your tough decision, but either way you'll end up with a stellar amp!
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Post by John on May 17, 2013 7:16:21 GMT -7
"Doesn't take pedals as well"....perhaps should be changed to "different". I have a Remedy and have had two Maz Jrs. Yes, they are different. You think there's a big difference between pedals with these two amps? Try one of the Doc's ef86 based amps. Now THERE's a difference. One is not better than the other...just different. Remedy is a more muscular amp.
If you're cabinet is closed back: MUCH more bright volume...but only have the treble set at noon or below.
With most amps (non DrZ amps), there is a tendency to turn the treble and bass up, even before turning on the amp for the first time. Your experience with the Maz has probably shown that shouldn't be the case.
I would start with tone controls at noon. I run my bright volume somewhere between noon and two. (noon = country tele.....2= rock) Bass volume: depends on the pickups, speaker, cabinet...etc.
If you play your Maz loud, you may notice a cool compression feel going on. Those el84's can only do so much, but the Remedy doesn't have that feel of the power section trying to keep up. To me, it's got the powerful feeling to not sag. It could also be due to the Remedy not having a rec tube.
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Post by DRem on May 17, 2013 10:06:06 GMT -7
My cab is open back 1x12
Yeah just need to play with the settings more. I will not make up my mind until I can open her up and play loud.
Big rooms will have a natural reverb. How do OD work with the remedy? Didn't really try that out?
Does reverb pedal work better than delay? I only really use delay as am ambience thing apart from 1 song.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 13:57:10 GMT -7
With a Strat, I was having a lot of fun this a.m. at these settings: 40 watts, MV 10:00, B 11:00, M 12:00, T 11:00, HV 10:00, NV 10:00. At 200 20 watts, basically the same, but with the MV up to 1:00 or so. I used a touch of soft-clip overdrive from my Jetter Jet Drive, and got a very useable volume/gain boost from the bump switch. With the HV much past 10:00, it's just too bright for me.
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Post by DRem on May 17, 2013 16:17:33 GMT -7
Just posted a new topic but the amp is epic! Love it. Any negative comments where put to shame tonight.
The amp is muscular alright! Even had the delay on all night and sound sweet!
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Post by vanceen on May 18, 2013 9:56:06 GMT -7
I find the discussion of pedals bemusing...
Personally, I try to stay away from them, not out of any sense of purism but because I'm not skilled with them. Every time I string two or three pedals in my signal chain I get unexpected effects when I click them on - volume jumps or drops that for some reason weren't evident in sound check. Urk. The only pedal I use routinely is a Jangle Box compressor with my Rick 12 string.
The fantastic thing about the Remedy for me is that I don't have any reason to use pedals, especially with the PPIMV. It gives up a distorted sound that is far better than any pedal I've ever heard. Not being a metal guy, I don't have any reason to dial up more gain than I can get straight out of the Remedy.
Having said that, I would have thought that the ideal setup for pedals is something that's very loud with a ton of headroom, like a Twin Reverb. The other guitarist in one of the bands I play with is a real pedal board maestro, and he uses a 100w Marshall Super Lead set on 1.
Don't get me wrong, I've got no cork-sniffing objection to pedals, they just don't work for me. But it seems to me that a Remedy would be an odd choice if you really make use of a lot of pedals.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on May 18, 2013 13:01:14 GMT -7
I find the discussion of pedals bemusing... Personally, I try to stay away from them, not out of any sense of purism but because I'm not skilled with them. Every time I string two or three pedals in my signal chain I get unexpected effects when I click them on - volume jumps or drops that for some reason weren't evident in sound check. Urk. The only pedal I use routinely is a Jangle Box compressor with my Rick 12 string. The fantastic thing about the Remedy for me is that I don't have any reason to use pedals, especially with the PPIMV. It gives up a distorted sound that is far better than any pedal I've ever heard. Not being a metal guy, I don't have any reason to dial up more gain than I can get straight out of the Remedy. Having said that, I would have thought that the ideal setup for pedals is something that's very loud with a ton of headroom, like a Twin Reverb. The other guitarist in one of the bands I play with is a real pedal board maestro, and he uses a 100w Marshall Super Lead set on 1. Don't get me wrong, I've got no cork-sniffing objection to pedals, they just don't work for me. But it seems to me that a Remedy would be an odd choice if you really make use of a lot of pedals. Totally agree!! Playing in a functions band, I need quite a range of sounds to cover the musical bases, and I used to do the "loud clean amp - pedals for everything" thing. Never happy with my tone AT ALL! Then I discovered Z amps, and then I discovered the Z28 and Remedy, both of which let me pare down my pedals to the bare minimum and use the amp's natural tone for most of our songs. That is a real joy
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 16:25:47 GMT -7
Great posts guys! I totally agree with the fact that there is really no need for pedals with the remedy especially with the tone bypass and MV. I like to control everything with my guitar. Don't get me wrong I love effect's and use them quite often. I spent quite a bit of dough on my board. Only to come to the realization that they get in the way of the remedy's magical mojo. I find myself leaving my board at home more often now and just plugging straight in. Everything not only sounds better it FEELS better. Let the church say Amen!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2013 8:38:29 GMT -7
Amen! Although I still haven't found the right straight-in settings on the Rem, I'll keep trying. It's a little more complex than 2/3/3 on the Z-28, with a smidge of reverb.
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