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Post by aeromonte on Jan 30, 2013 19:10:50 GMT -7
Hey everyone! This is my first post. Just picked up a used blonde Remedy head (with a cool salt and pepper faceplate) and 2x10 Z cab. IT IS FREAKIN LOUD! I'm going to have to buy another speaker cable to be able to use the Airbrake. I'm not sure I care for the punchiness from the 2x10 cab. I opened the back up and that sounds a bit better to me but maybe still a bit tinny and thin sounding. They are the Dr Z 10" speakers. I think I may prefer the fuller sound of 12" speakers over 10". If I were to get a cab with 12" speaker/s, would I be better off with a 1x12 or 2x12 cab for the Remedy? I don't play out/gig and only play at home - so the lower the volume and earlier the breakup the better. I don't need to project sound - so I like the airy sound of open cabs. Would a 2x12 be louder than a 1x12 or just fuller? I see that the new creambacks are pretty popular here and I probably couldn't go wrong with that speaker.. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 19:33:58 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum and Congratulations! I would def get a 12 inch speaker in that cab. I have tried the G12H30 the Celestion Gold and now have a creamback in mine. They all sounded great with the Remedy what I like about the creamback is I can now play my Remedy at 40 watts. I have mine closed back. When I had the G12H30 and the Gold I kept my cab open back. The creamback is a great choice for the remedy if you are looking for that classic rock tone. The Gold is also very good too but its a louder speaker and sounds its best when its really pushed so at home that may be a issue. I keep my 1/12 cab at church with the creamback and have my z-best loaded with two 25 watt greenbacks for at home use. You really cannot go wrong with either set up. I prefer 12inch speakers with the remedy I tried the 4/10 Z cab and it was super loud and punchy. The Z-Best sounds real fat horizontal too.
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Post by "Z" Steve on Jan 30, 2013 21:57:26 GMT -7
As the Rev said welcome to the forum. I would have to say go with a Z 1x12 convertible and a Creamback by what you described. I play out door gigs a few times a year, a few indoor events, and most Sunday morns as well as at home (during the day when no one is here). I can safely that configuration will please you plenty at 20 or 40 watts - and you had better get a Brakelite cuz it's a loud 20/40 watts. I also had a 2x10 cab but I discovered I liked the feel of 12's more (though lately I've had 4x10 G.A.S.) Enjoy your search! (looked again and saw the Airbrake - your set)
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Post by Andy 67 on Jan 31, 2013 1:40:51 GMT -7
Welcome home, bro'! I run my Remedy through a semi-open back loaded with a Gold, and it sounds awesome; it's certain that the Gold is a high-efficiency speaker, so it's LOUD!! Now I'm waiting for my Creamback to arrive, as I want to try different 'flavors'. Enjoy your tonal beast! Tons of tone!!
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Post by John on Jan 31, 2013 5:55:15 GMT -7
I don't play out/gig and only play at home - so the lower the volume and earlier the breakup the better. I don't need to project sound - Then I would get a greenback. Early breakup...lower volume..and a perfect match for the Remedy. And yes, get that airbrake working. And welcome to the forum.
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Post by nigel (Rick) on Jan 31, 2013 7:19:46 GMT -7
Welcome and great choice on the Remedy! You're going to love it! It actually took me awhile to bond with the remedy. Maybe because I've always been a low watt fender guy & pedal pusher. Anyhoo, have fun exploring speakers because they do shape the sound a lot with the Z's. more so just have fun playing. Be sure to use the Airbrake and crank the volumes up / no pedals, just the pure remedy & guitar volume/tone.
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Post by aeromonte on Jan 31, 2013 12:40:00 GMT -7
I don't play out/gig and only play at home - so the lower the volume and earlier the breakup the better. I don't need to project sound - Then I would get a greenback. Early breakup...lower volume..and a perfect match for the Remedy. And yes, get that airbrake working. And welcome to the forum. If I got a greenback in a 1x12, wouldn't that prevent me from going to 40watt mode if I ever wanted to get loud for fun? Wouldn't that blow the speaker out?
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Post by aeromonte on Jan 31, 2013 12:42:38 GMT -7
Thanks everyone! I guess I will probably sell the 2x10 at some point. I sent an email to Humbucker music to see if they could order a blond cab with a salt and pepper grill for me, that will match my head - since they only have the blond with tan grill.
They have options to get the cab loaded with a G12M Greenback, G12H30 or Vintage 30. Which one of those would be the best for the Remedy? I was thinking the G12H30. Then I could get a creamback later and compare for myself!!!
Would a 2x12 cab be louder than a 1x12 or does it just split the power from the amp? Not sure how that works..
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Post by surfhard on Jan 31, 2013 14:43:16 GMT -7
I vote for the Greenback out of those 3 and keep the Remedy on 20 watts. You can be on the lookout for a used Creamback, G12-65, Weber Legacy 65 Watt or WGS ET-65 or Invader to add later to use the Remedy on the 40 watt setting. But you may not need anything else besides the Greenback for around the house. I can't imagine you would need a 212 for home or any jams with friends.
Welcome to the club!
P.S. Maybe save that 210 for the next DR. Z - Ghias and Z28s love 210s.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 14:51:06 GMT -7
Welcome home, bro'! I run my Remedy through a semi-open back loaded with a Gold, and it sounds awesome; it's certain that the Gold is a high-efficiency speaker, so it's LOUD!! Now I'm waiting for my Creamback to arrive, as I want to try different 'flavors'. Enjoy your tonal beast! Tons of tone!! The Gold is also a killer speaker with the Remedy! I have a feeling you will like the creamback too!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 14:59:04 GMT -7
Thanks everyone! I guess I will probably sell the 2x10 at some point. I sent an email to Humbucker music to see if they could order a blond cab with a salt and pepper grill for me, that will match my head - since they only have the blond with tan grill. They have options to get the cab loaded with a G12M Greenback, G12H30 or Vintage 30. Which one of those would be the best for the Remedy? I was thinking the G12H30. Then I could get a creamback later and compare for myself!!! Would a 2x12 cab be louder than a 1x12 or does it just split the power from the amp? Not sure how that works.. I would get the g12h30 and flip it on E-bay and get a creamback. Or get a Z-best with two greenbacks! With the 1/12 cab and the creamback you will be good to go at home or even gigging. ( things always change you may start gigging) That would be my advise.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Jan 31, 2013 16:49:30 GMT -7
Congrats and welcome!! I have to say I LOVE the look of your Remedy - okay, mine is identical, so I am somewhat biased I play a G12-65 and it's great too (very Creamback like apparently, but a bit cheaper). Another serious option you should consider is the Weber DT-12. Now I haven't played one, but it is only 94dB, so a lot quieter than anything else mentioned, so you]ll get great breakup at lower volumes. Also it's a warm speaker, and as you found the 2x10 tinny, maybe it might suit? Just another thought.......... You have chosen a stellar amp in the Doc's range - ENJOY!!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 31, 2013 19:29:59 GMT -7
Welcome to the Forum! I'd stick with a single 12 if you are worried about too much volume. I like the G1265 with it - nice RnR sound
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Post by aeromonte on Feb 1, 2013 11:19:15 GMT -7
Thanks again!! Well, I ended up ordering a blond cab with a salt & pepper grill from Humbucker with the G12H30 - they only offered the three I mentioned above and I think the blue and gold. I'll try that one out for a bit and then maybe get a creamback later on. It's fun to taste all the flavors of tone!! I wish I would have kept my vintage pair of g12-65s. I bought them to replace the horrible 70 series that came stock in my JCM-800 4104 combo (which is also gone now).
Regarding the creamback - which ohm model is the one to get - 16 or 8?? I have researched a bit on this topic - and there seems to be mixed opinions on which one to get.. What do most of the stock 1x12 cabs come with?
Also, I ordered some new speaker cables from Todd at Pro Cables N Sound - super nice guy and great to deal with!!
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Post by redzsrock on Feb 16, 2013 20:19:40 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum bro! And congrats on your Remedy. I order a 1x12 loaded with a V30, and then ordered a Gold from ZZounds. They're a fairly pricey speaker, so it was nice to be able to split the purchase up with their 4-payment option.
Enjoy that Remedy. She's a rockin' tone MONSTER!
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Post by zone47 on Feb 25, 2013 14:54:54 GMT -7
Welcome.
I have a Hylite style Swanson 1x12 cab that looks like a mini Hiwatt 4x12. It even has the port in the back and I loaded a Reeves vintage purple in there (cast frame to mimic the old Fane tone). The tone is amazing! It's very natural sounding and balanced perfectly. You'd probably be just as well with a Z cab or a port city. The main thing is that amp is just killer for tone !!! .... it probably sounds great through just about anything.
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Post by aeromonte on Feb 26, 2013 8:59:25 GMT -7
I just sold my Hiwatt Custom 50 2x12 combo with FANE speakers (KILLER sounding amp) to pay for the Remedy. I told myself I would never sell that amp... THAT IS HOW SWEET THE REMEDY REALLY IS!!!
I have a 1x12" Z cab (blonde with salt and pepper grill) on order from Humbucker to match my head. They said it would be about a 10-12 week wait, which I was fine with. The Dr. is busy these days with the Antidote and new Remedy. I also picked up a Creamback from Sweetwater, that I'll use to replace the G12H30.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 27, 2013 4:46:10 GMT -7
Just so you know how great they will look together..........
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Post by aeromonte on Feb 27, 2013 11:19:24 GMT -7
Just so you know how great they will look together.......... That looks SWEEEEET!! Can't wait!
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Post by freddieg on Feb 27, 2013 14:15:43 GMT -7
Are your Dr Z 10" speakers are broken in ? If not, give em a chance.
Check out the AUDIO section and listen to the Z28 demo through 2x10's. Just as a reference point. I know it is not the same amp but lots of people swear by the 2x10's..
..... and if you still dont like your 2x10 cab, PM me and I'll buy it...... if i am still employed.....
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Post by kc on Feb 27, 2013 15:12:00 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum.
What guitar are you playing thru the Remedy? My experience with Z amps is they will faithfully reproduce the sound your guitar is putting out. When I play a bright sounding guitar thru a Z, it sounds bright, same for a thin sounding guitar, a dull sounding guitar, etc.
If you're a home player, I suggest you use the 20-watt setting, an Airbrake, and a single inefficient 10" or 12" speaker.
FWIW, some have commented here that the Creamback is a bit bright for their tastes.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
kc
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