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Post by match on Sept 9, 2006 10:32:10 GMT -7
Anyone? I'm curious. I've seen all the on-line documentation, and videos. I'd like to hear from some players that have real world experience with it. Matt BPSSC is Backplate Silent Single Coil System. www.suhrguitars.com/pickups.aspx
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Post by Hohn on Sept 12, 2006 16:02:26 GMT -7
I never understood why guitar makers didn't bother to kill off the hum.
I mean, a/c hum is 60hz, and the low E is on the other of 80-something hertz, right?
Sound like a hi-pass filter would kill him without affecting tone.
What am I missing?
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Post by skydog958 on Sept 12, 2006 17:57:07 GMT -7
I'd like some info myself because I'm looking into that system for my Zion
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Sept 12, 2006 18:35:33 GMT -7
I never understood why guitar makers didn't bother to kill off the hum. I mean, a/c hum is 60hz, and the low E is on the other of 80-something hertz, right? Sound like a hi-pass filter would kill him without affecting tone. What am I missing? It's not nearly so simple. Yeah, the line is 60 Hz, but what's the second order harmonic of that? Yeah, 120 Hz. What about the third order harmonic? Each harmonic is there, in decreasing levels, all the way up in the audio spectrum. If you kill 60 Hz, you may kill the fundamental, but most of the noise you hear are the harmonics, and killing those kills stuff right in the middle of your tone. Here's an image that illustrates harmonics as displayed on a spectrum analyzer. As you can see, the level of the second order harmonic is at least as high as the fundamental! They start dropping off, but look at the 5th order - it goes back up. Well lets see what freqency that would be if the fundamental is 60Hz.... it's 300 Hz! Ouch, that would really hurt if you killed that off. So the idea is to prevent this crap from getting into your system in the first place, which was how the Humbucking pickup was conceived.
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Post by GuitarZ on Sept 12, 2006 18:37:27 GMT -7
I keep watching this thread to hear from someone who has tried the system. Since no one has on this forum, I figured that I would Google the thing tonight to see if anyone else has around this great round world. I found two threads that might be useful although the folks seem equally divided as any true single coil lovers might be. www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=584359&lastpost=2006-09-0312:01:50www.tdpri.com/forum/just-pickups/39422-real-single-coils-pups-no-hum-throw-your-stacks-away-4.htmlThe fender link seems like a healthy discussion while the second one kind of degenerates into, well, something. You have to scroll down a bit in the second one and a few different people dispute the guy that says you have to route out your guitar. Me, I think I'm lucky. I haven't played a single coil Strat and went from Fender's Noiseless Pickups to Kinman Blues and I'm happy. Just don't stop over at my house with a single coil Strat to tempt me.
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Post by match on Sept 13, 2006 11:27:07 GMT -7
That Fender Forum discussion is what I was looking for thanks Guitar Z karma coming at ya, and thanks bentop for the harmonics/fundamental 101! Awesome!
I've been using first generation Dimarzio Virtual Vintage Strat Pups for a long time, which I still really like. However, I recently played some Fralins, Vintage hots, and the Real 54's. What great pups. I really want that sound, and realized I was compromising my tone. I absolutely hate, and can't live w/ 60 Hz hum! The Suhr system seems to solve this problem. I still love to hear from someone who's actually got the system. Take care,
Matt
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