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Post by Lefty on Jun 11, 2006 11:25:27 GMT -7
And I've had it all along. I've confirmed it, I'm a strat man. Granted I havn't played all the guitars out there but there is something VERY comfortable about a strat. I know how it's gonna play, how it's gonna sound, how it's gonna feel. I've got a Tele, a Lester, and they don't "do-it" quite like my Strats. It's good to be loved.
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 11, 2006 11:31:40 GMT -7
Strats: I just watched the Jimi Hendrix complete performance from Woodstock. Stock Strat with lots of cig burns on the headstock, scratches on the body, very dirty looking. Jimi's fingernails were very dirty and his hands looked dirty. The strings looked old and black. The plain strings didn't shine at all. He didn't use any Fingerease or powder on the neck. He whammied the be-jebus out of it and hardly tuned. He still played and sounded great! I've only owned one Strat and it had a bad neck. They don't hang well on me. With the strap mounted out on the end of the bass bout point, it pushes the whole guitar too far to the right for me, putting my right wrist in a bind. Too bad for me.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 11, 2006 12:53:11 GMT -7
And I've had it all along. I've confirmed it, I'm a strat man. Granted I havn't played all the guitars out there but there is something VERY comfortable about a strat. I know how it's gonna play, how it's gonna sound, how it's gonna feel. I've got a Tele, a Lester, and they don't "do-it" quite like my Strats. It's good to be loved. I'm like you Lefty. I have two Tele's here, two PRS's, and two Strats. I love playing all of them. But when I strap on my Grosh Strat, it is like coming home. It performs exactly as I wish, the bends always work the best on there, the tones are always what I'm trying for. The ONLY thing that would improve a strat is if the bridge pickup sounded like a Tele's.
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 11, 2006 13:22:00 GMT -7
Doesn't Fralin or Rio Grande make a Strat bridge pickup with a bottom plate like a Tele?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 11, 2006 13:27:23 GMT -7
Doesn't Fralin or Rio Grande make a Strat bridge pickup with a bottom plate like a Tele? Yeah, I think Fralin makes one for sure, but I have a humbucker in that slot.
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Post by Lefty on Jun 11, 2006 14:41:14 GMT -7
Yes he do! I have a set of Fralin Woodstocks in my strat and the bridge plate installed on the bridge pup, sounds GREAT! Gives it a little more ooommmmmph!
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Post by propellr on Jun 11, 2006 18:51:50 GMT -7
I have yet to own a strat. I will, one day.
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Post by foxx on Jun 11, 2006 20:12:14 GMT -7
I love the sound of the strat, but can't get comfortable with one. I was always hitting the pickup selector on accident. I prefer a Lester.
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Post by Greg G. on Jun 11, 2006 22:16:29 GMT -7
I am a TOTAL "Strat Guy", but I've aways wished they played better. That's why I feel like my Parker NiteFly is the best "Strat" I've ever owned, impeccable Strat tone with the playability and features a modern guitarists has come to embrace.
-Greg
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Post by LeftyLang on Jun 12, 2006 19:27:49 GMT -7
I have figured the same thing out Lefty...I am a strat guy as well. My 2nd fav is a tele. For a while I really tried to get into the 335 & Gretsch hollowbodies, but I always came back to my Strat. I played a LP for years, but Always came back to a good ol Lefty Strat.
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Post by real oldster on Jun 13, 2006 5:25:08 GMT -7
In addition to the tone which brings me back decade after decade one of the things I love about Strats is that they fight back. I can't get nearly as much out of a low-action, plays-itself fretless wonder type guitar. Still love Leo.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 13, 2006 6:53:00 GMT -7
In addition to the tone which brings me back decade after decade one of the things I love about Strats is that they fight back. I can't get nearly as much out of a low-action, plays-itself fretless wonder type guitar. Still love Leo. Interesting way to put it. I know I have my strings raised up a bit on my main strat, and I love the way things feel when I'm doing a bend - maybe you're right, it fights back. Sure sings!
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Post by guitarman1 on Jun 13, 2006 8:10:25 GMT -7
I'm always amazed that something designed 50 years ago is still so frigging popular today. With all of the technological breakthroughs in science, medicine, computers, Internet, etc., etc., a basic Strat is just really hard to beat!
I'd love to know the total number of Strats & Strat clones that have been sold world wide.
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Post by Curt on Jun 13, 2006 10:57:14 GMT -7
I dig the 2 and 4 on a Strat, I agree with the above statement by Steve I think, "Iwish the bridge pup sounded like a Tele", I too tend to hit the selector and my biggest problem with Strats is the mid pup is right where I pick and I get tangled up in them... I keep one around for when you need "That" sound but I guess I've found "My" guitar as well... Telecaster !
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Post by garyh on Jun 13, 2006 21:22:31 GMT -7
I love the strat for the selector switch. I can just slap it back or forward without having to look for it. That's not all I like about it. It's probably the most versatile electric out there, fits into any kind of music and it's been the most tweaked guitar around, from humbuckers and Floyd Roses to stagerred tuning keys, reverse headstocks, the 5-way switch, with or without pickguards and on and on. It's got the sexiest looks and very sexy sounds; the most copied guitar in history.
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Post by real oldster on Jun 15, 2006 0:49:54 GMT -7
Interesting way to put it.I'm an interesting guy. ;D
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Post by foxx on Jun 22, 2006 16:52:01 GMT -7
For a least 2 years I have wanted a Les Paul w/ P90's , no pick guard, no frills just wood and a wide neck. I looked for a while.
Then a few months ago I am at a Music Go Round and see this double cut all mahogany LP special with black soapbars, a rosewood neck, a nut width of 1 3/4", Ghoto 16/1 tuners, and some weird fine tuning bridge with adjustable saddels. But wait, the black headstock plate has no name, and there is no writing or serial number anywhere. It's tag says $300.
I wanted it as soon as I played it. I plugged it in and it is a monster. When I asked about the guitar, I was told that some cabinet maker in Santa Fe made it. That's all I know except that it has sold at another store that I frequent and they said the same thing about the guitar.
Everyone that I have shown the guitar to says "Nice piece of wood" and it is very nice, I have a picture somewhere in a camera I should get it.
I have been playing some other Gibson LP's and for the money I got a great deal. They have an $800 double cut "relic" with p-90's at GC but I did not like them at all. Nothing about that guitar was appealing. I would have to spend way more to get a guitar that would suit me as well as my mystery guitar.
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 22, 2006 18:17:50 GMT -7
My dream would be a Special with a 25-1/2" scale length. The only way I could get that would be to put something together from Warmoth parts and in the end with finishing and parts it would mean being way too upside down. Those new Gibsons with the "worn" finish are a bit too cheezy and the historical ones are too expensive. At a Dallas guitar show I bought one of the new Juniors. I daydream about having someone put another P-90 at the neck. That might be very cool!
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Post by skydog958 on Jun 30, 2006 8:14:01 GMT -7
Hey foxx
I've wanted a P-90 guitar for ages...could you contact that cabinet and have him make me a single-cut LP Jr.? ;D
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Post by foxx on Jun 30, 2006 8:59:51 GMT -7
Hey skydog958, I don't know who the guy is. I only know what I know because of what I was told. I wish I knew more about the guy. He may or may not have ever made another guitar. I was told he made the guitar for his daughter's boyfriend or something. The headstock looks like a Gibson headstock, so maybe he just made the body and pieced it together, rather well at that. I can ask some more questions at the guitar store that sold it.
Again, I really like the fact that I have a unique guitar with no name on it.
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Post by Telemanic on Jul 1, 2006 16:46:16 GMT -7
I let my 70' gold top deluxe, ( with ebony fretboard! ) go, back in the late 70's or 80 or so. BIG MISTAKE !! I wont embarass myself by tellin ya what i stupidly traded it for, but sufice it to say, i wish i could have a re-do on that one!! ha! Anyway, the good thing to me, is that i went Fender, and never looked back !! I like what i think Lefty said, that they fight ya a bit. Onstage with nothin more than a strat or Tele and a Z, .... you better bring it !! cause talk about naked truth !! I keep bouncing back and forth bettween the two trying to decide which is THE guitar. The Strat, ( a first year RW Relic, by Vince Canutto ? ) is SO sumptuous, and sexy, everytime i pick it up, it feels like a favorite old pair of jeans or tennis shoes. They can sound so pretty and exspressive, i feel more delicate than a Tele. I too have a base plate on the bridge, but still long for a bit more umph, without losing any air. The Tele on the other hand, would probably be my desert island guitar! Leo coulda just stopped right there!! It Rocks, to me, harder than a strat, but can also be so damn versatile. The only comprimise i find is trying to REALLY cop SRV or JIMI, you can get by, but not the same. The only thing that pisses me off is the pick-up selctor, i cant quickly switch it without the potential of bumping the volume knob, its like they're crammed so close together! I'm working on a off-set, that will move the knob a bit to the side. I as well dig the strats ability to just slap it back and forth at will, in fact ive incorperated that technique into some lead work,.. fun stuff !!
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Post by taswegian on Jul 1, 2006 17:35:57 GMT -7
I saw a Trussart Steel Deville for sale on ebay Poland for 300 bucks. I asked for the serial # and the listing was pulled by ebay as he wasn't a registered member. Also had only 10 references all in the last month. Always a sus sign. Knew that one was too good to be true...
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Post by nitehawk55 on Jul 1, 2006 17:53:28 GMT -7
I let my 70' gold top deluxe, ( with ebony fretboard! ) go, back in the late 70's or 80 or so. BIG MISTAKE !! I wont embarass myself by tellin ya what i stupidly traded it for, but sufice it to say, i wish i could have a re-do on that one!! ha! Anyway, the good thing to me, is that i went Fender, and never looked back !! I like what i think Lefty said, that they fight ya a bit. Onstage with nothin more than a strat or Tele and a Z, .... you better bring it !! cause talk about naked truth !! I keep bouncing back and forth bettween the two trying to decide which is THE guitar. The Strat, ( a first year RW Relic, by Vince Canutto ? ) is SO sumptuous, and sexy, everytime i pick it up, it feels like a favorite old pair of jeans or tennis shoes. They can sound so pretty and exspressive, i feel more delicate than a Tele. I too have a base plate on the bridge, but still long for a bit more umph, without losing any air. The Tele on the other hand, would probably be my desert island guitar! Leo coulda just stopped right there!! It Rocks, to me, harder than a strat, but can also be so damn versatile. The only comprimise i find is trying to REALLY cop SRV or JIMI, you can get by, but not the same. The only thing that pisses me off is the pick-up selctor, i cant quickly switch it without the potential of bumping the volume knob, its like they're crammed so close together! I'm working on a off-set, that will move the knob a bit to the side. I as well dig the strats ability to just slap it back and forth at will, in fact ive incorperated that technique into some lead work,.. fun stuff !! I know what you mean with wacking the controls on the Tele and the Strat selector can be moved out of position easy too i've found . Simple cure for the Tele and i,m sure you have seen it but just take the control plate and reverse it so the selector is at the bottom and just turn or position the controls to your liking .
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Post by nitehawk55 on Jul 1, 2006 19:54:46 GMT -7
Hey foxx I've wanted a P-90 guitar for ages...could you contact that cabinet and have him make me a single-cut LP Jr.? ;D If you want a kick arse P90 guitar try a Godin LG 90 with the Seymour Duncan pick-ups in it and also check out the reviews on Harmony central , it's a hands down winner . These things have so much resonance when playing them unplugged you would not believe how good they sound plugged in !! Neck and fretwork is way better then most guitars and a fantastic value for the money . It is also a CDN/USA made guitar , so it's made in North-Am supporting workers here . It may not be as fancy or distinguished as a Gibson or PRS but I can gaurantee it will sound as good or better !!
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Post by skydog958 on Jul 1, 2006 21:56:54 GMT -7
Foxx--that would be really cool! Karma for your efforts tasweigan--I also was watching that Trussart. I had a bad bad feeling about it. I must have developed an eBay "sixth-sense" lol. Or I just realized no idiot would ever sell a Trussart for $300 If I ever find someone who will, you'll hear about it nitehawk55--those guits look cool. I'd like to give one a spin.
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Post by skydog958 on Jul 1, 2006 22:29:26 GMT -7
Forgot to mention, I made the mistake of picking up my Les Paul, which I had intended to sell for ages, and playing it through my Z. MY GOODNESS. It sounded great! But it's still a pain to play because it has near no fret left, and there is no way I could afford a refret right now.
I am a Gibson guy through and through. I own 3 Gibsons and a Heritage, which is simply a Gibson with a different name.
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 2, 2006 19:43:16 GMT -7
I was a Gibson only man for probably 25 years. Then I bought an L-5 and some old Epis that have 25-1/2" necks. After those i can't go back to the loosey-goosey 24-3/4" scale. It just feels wrong to me now, like toys. Now my Les Paul, ES-347, 1939 ES-150 Charlie Christian, Lucille, Heritage H-150 and others that don't come to mind right now just sit. A Tele body shape, with contours, is about as good as it gets for me. With Tom Anderson's '62 roundback neck shape and I'm about done. Before long I'm going to have to have a Lentz!
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Post by tjstrat on Jul 4, 2006 7:53:14 GMT -7
My first real guitar was a '69 SG Special that I played from my 18th birthday until 1997 when it was stolen. At the time I also had a mid '80s LP and a MIJ strat that I'd put JB Jrs in. I was already kind of transitioning to the strat when all three were gobbled up.
I bought some PRSs with the insurance settlement and also a Hamer Daytona, wound up playing the Daytona ( Hamer's version of a no nonsense strat) more than anything else. Over the next few years I just seemed to buy a LOT more strat style instruments than anything else.
Back last September I just started selling stuff off, got rid of everything... PRSs and strats and Reverends and bought a Comanche for single coil sounds and a Hamer double cutaway semi solid for my humbucker tones. Pretty cool.
Then I got my first Z, and the G&L sounded incredible. The Hamer... Not so incredible.
So I sold it and bought a back up Comanche. And it's all good now. From that old P-90 loaded SG to the superstrat Comanche. I could never really go back to that big thick muddy Gibson tone again. But that's just me.
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 4, 2006 8:48:06 GMT -7
Thick, muddy Gibson tone. There's something to that. I think it's partially the 24-3/4" scale length of most Gibsons, just as responsible as the humbuckings unless the pickups are really bright. I can't remember which Hamers they are but I've played them with 24-3/4" scale and another that looks exactly the same only it had a 25-1/2" scale. The longer scale guitar sounded much better, different harmonic structure to my ears. Then again I could be full of it!
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Post by tjstrat on Jul 4, 2006 17:20:53 GMT -7
The last thing I want to do is upset the many, many, many people here who get tremendous sounds out of Gibsons and the shorter scale guitars. Even when I had that old SG I had a luthier friend splitting coils, adding in and out of phase mini switching, and so on, because I wanted the fat, but split Shallers gave me a real stratty clarity too. It seems that you can fatten a strat or tele easily enough, but to get clarity out of the shorter scale requires a little more... work, technique, better ears? No insults intended to the Gibson fans, though.
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