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Post by quinto on May 27, 2006 12:05:50 GMT -7
I bought this from MF 2 wks. ago. They call it a deluxe vintage players '62 strat. It has all the features of a '62 reissue except for the American standard spec neck, and s-1 electronics. It's even finished in nitro. The best thing is MF is closing these out for $999.
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Post by kruzty on May 27, 2006 13:00:34 GMT -7
That looks nice. What pickups are in it?
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Post by quinto on May 27, 2006 15:56:45 GMT -7
Thanks. It has SCN's in it, but I think I'm going to get an acme blender harness with Lollar Blackface pickups. Been wanting to try 'em for a while. Just not into the SCN's.
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Post by tele1962 on May 27, 2006 16:12:31 GMT -7
Nice little guitar! Two words that throw the thing off for me a bit are "Vintage" and ""62". To me those are marketing terms in this case because vintage and '62 designate period specifics, even if it's a "player's guitar". I would rather they have knocked those two words off the marketing scheme. Vintage '62 may be referring to neck or body style, but to me that's not enough attention to detail to give it that designation. For starters they'd have to get rid of: 1) Headstock coloring 2) Headstock Truss rod adjustments and 3) S-1 Electronics.
Quinto, don't get me wrong. The guitar is cool! My beef has for a long time has been with Fender marketing.
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Post by garyh on May 27, 2006 16:51:40 GMT -7
I was lusting after a 62 reissue that looked a lot like that; ocean turquoise with mint green pickguard and cream parts with the aged finish on the neck. Beautiful! Couldn't get into the narrow, rounded 62' neck though, so got my American Deluxe ash. No regrets but that sure is purty quinto.
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Post by quinto on May 27, 2006 17:21:31 GMT -7
tele1962, I agree with you about fender marketing. That said The things that I liked about it were the neck(9.5" radius, 22nd. fret, and the truss rod adjustment location), the vintage hardware(don't like the American standard stuff too much), and the nitro finish. I got a nice G&G brown case with it too! As a side note I am pretty sure that fender did occasionally paint to match the headstocks of some guitars in the 60's.
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Post by tele1962 on May 28, 2006 21:46:34 GMT -7
There's nothing there not to like, my friend! Like I said, nice guitar. My quarrel is still with Fender's "Vintage" and "62" designations...not the guitar itself.
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Post by quinto on May 29, 2006 9:18:06 GMT -7
I understand completely. They should leave off the word vintage all together, and maybe put the word hybrid in if they keep '62.
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Post by Curt on May 29, 2006 13:07:25 GMT -7
tele1962, I agree with you about fender marketing. That said The things that I liked about it were the neck(9.5" radius, 22nd. fret, and the truss rod adjustment location), the vintage hardware(don't like the American standard stuff too much), and the nitro finish. I got a nice G&G brown case with it too! As a side note I am pretty sure that fender did occasionally paint to match the headstocks of some guitars in the 60's. You are correct, cosom color guits could be had with matching headstocks. That is a cool fiddle and I agree, the 9.5 is a huge plus, I am not one that painted headstcks appeal too, but that is a fine lookin' guitar at a good price IMO, and i LOVE those Brown case's ;D
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Post by quinto on May 29, 2006 23:27:02 GMT -7
Ya know, The other color they had was oly. white w/tortoise and gold hardware. Not too exited about gold hardware, and my other strat is oly. white. I originally wasn't going to get one because of the color choices, but the ice blue metallic has grown on me quite a bit.
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Post by LeftyLang on Jun 6, 2006 21:41:10 GMT -7
I bought this from MF 2 wks. ago. They call it a deluxe vintage players '62 strat. It has all the features of a '62 reissue except for the American standard spec neck, and s-1 electronics. It's even finished in nitro. The best thing is MF is closing these out for $999. I like it, but I am Strat Crazy lately. The headstock looks cool as well
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Post by rodeoclown on Jun 6, 2006 22:32:54 GMT -7
I've got the same strat, but I paid a lot more than that for it. You might want to give those pups a chance before you swap them out. I play mostly old style country, and I really like the clean to semi dirty tone I get with it through my Maz 38 2X12. Then again, that amp makes any guitar sound good.
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Post by guitarboy02451 on Jun 10, 2006 7:58:37 GMT -7
perty!!!
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Post by hdahs143 on Jun 10, 2006 15:00:57 GMT -7
Fender's first attempt at "noiseless" pickups a few years ago should have been called "toneless". They were and still are horrible. Very brittle, lifeless sound. But I tried an American Deluxe with the SCN' and S1 switching the other day through a Super Reverb reissue, and thought they sounded pretty good. Much better than the others. The best I heard was and Ash body Super Strat from the Deluxe series that someone had traded in, and it was fitted with Suhr V54's. Very nice
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Post by LeftyLang on Jun 10, 2006 20:29:01 GMT -7
I like the SCN's as well....a lot of players don't , but I think they sound good. I am not crazy about the S1 switching as I find some of the tones muddy. I did not install the S1 with my SCN's.
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Post by tele1962 on Jun 13, 2006 19:01:17 GMT -7
Here's another one on "Noiseless". The EC Signature model boasts the Noiseless PU's with promises of that great EC sound! Yet, Clapton himself, during the Cream Reunion in 2005, had a basic re-issue Blackie, with vintage Strat PU's ( likely Abigail from FCS wound them for him) , and nary a sign of the Noiseless wonders.
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Post by quinto on Jun 13, 2006 19:42:19 GMT -7
Actually, All of Eric's Strats are master built examples of his signature model. These are all equipped with the Fender vintage noiseless pickups with no logo on the covers per his spec. I have viewed the DVD many times, and poured over photos of the reunion shows and the black Strats he plays all have 22 frets and a hole in the headstock, just like all the other Clapton strats. I know that most, including me, don't care for that pickup much, he seems to like 'em quite a bit. Then again he could probably put a string on a stick and show us all a thing or two.
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Post by real oldster on Jun 15, 2006 0:41:02 GMT -7
Clapton is the Man. ;D
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Post by janinedoubly on Jun 15, 2006 20:04:40 GMT -7
If the SCN's don't cut it, but you want humcancelling, try Dimarzio's Virtual Vintages. Just be sure to ditch the 1 meg pots in the STrat and go with std. 250K pots.
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Post by tele1962 on Jun 18, 2006 16:03:02 GMT -7
Wonder why he'd opt out on the Noiseless logos on his own guitars. Wouldn't Fender marketing talk him into selling a whack of these things by attaching the logo to his personal guitars? If Marketing didn't push him in this direction, they didn't do their job.
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 18, 2006 16:26:55 GMT -7
I imagine what Clapton wants, Clapton gets. Afterall, they need him a LOT more than he needs them.
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Post by BW on Jun 18, 2006 18:42:07 GMT -7
I LOVE the color and especially the painted headstock, that just melts my butter.
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Post by kc on Jun 18, 2006 20:48:51 GMT -7
In regard to Clapton, I recently read an interview with his guitar tech from 2004. In it, his tech Lee Dickson responds to the question: SCND: Without the Stratocasters “Blackie” and “Brownie” to keep him company, what guitars is Eric using on the tour? Does he have a particular favorite? LEE: Well, you know Blackie and Brownie haven’t kept him company for quite some time. Brownie was sold in the 1999 auction and Blackie’s retired. He’s now using Eric Clapton Signature Strats. He’s changed pickups over the years, and circuitry. The past couple of years he’s been playing what we call the "graffiti Strats". As far as pickups, he’ll play pretty much whatever Fender puts in them - he’s generally happy with what Fender provides. www.stratcollector.com/newsdesk/archives/000259.htmlSounds like EC's not all that particular? kc
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 19, 2006 5:52:28 GMT -7
I can believe that he's not too particular. His mid-boost can pretty much drive any amp over the top so he can still get what he wants, when he wants it. He's also a very traditional person and likes the fact that he's using Fender guitars and amps, I assume. But if he did want to change to some other brands like a Grosh, Lentz or Tom Anderson guitar and Dr Z amps it would be a painful blow to Fender. To me, Fender hasn't been Fender since Leo's gone so what's the difference? I get the feeling that Clapton is more about the music than the gear so he really doesn't care one way or the other. Lucky sod, I wish I didn't care!
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Post by propellr on Jun 19, 2006 6:22:50 GMT -7
If I played like Eric Clapton, what would I need with custom gear? I'd be Eric Clapton. Duh.
I like having the gear that I have because it makes me sound better. It's easier to take care of and easier to play. It's fun. Having a rig that I've purchased over a period of years is a reflection of my interest in music. It makes me feel pretty. I like learning about guitar stuff. Learning about gear is also fun.
It's also a fantasy. I have a pro rig, but I am not a pro player. There you go.
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Post by prowler on Jul 6, 2006 19:19:44 GMT -7
I got to play one of the Vintage 62 Reissues & I wasn't super impressed with it. I liked the American made 60th anniversary model much better.
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Post by tele1962 on Jul 6, 2006 21:44:34 GMT -7
Which '62 RI? There's a lot of them.
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Post by quinto on Aug 17, 2006 18:33:59 GMT -7
Hey, MF just dropped the price to $899. Man, I want a white one too.
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Post by wilzgt on Aug 21, 2006 9:39:35 GMT -7
That sure is perdy! I love strats. It's the only guitar that I can sit with for 8 hours and still feel comfortable as it seems built for my body type. Enjoy the strat---looks like a keeper!
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