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Post by zpilot on Apr 7, 2012 23:02:15 GMT -7
As both a sound engineer and a guitarist my live go-to mic for the last 35 years has been a SM57 but I recently acquired a Senn 906e that I love. I place it dead center in front of the speaker and about 1" from the grill. It has a more natural sound than the 57 did. No peaks to EQ out. I usually just run it flat. There ARE better sounding mics (Senn 421) that I prefer for recording but in a live situation mixed with other instruments I doubt anyone in the audience can tell the difference.
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Post by randalp3000 on May 17, 2012 11:35:46 GMT -7
My $.02 - This is based on "Best Mics for recording a live amplified guitar performance" which is a somewhat different than the topic- To me 609s compress things, so I hate 'em, unless the guy you are recording thinks his guitar sound should be a live version of a "recording of a guitar" sound, in which case he has no dynamics so a mic that compresses his dynamics doesn't matter. Since if you use one of those you have a stand or clip to deal with, so I'll use one on that player. I view the Audix I5 as a, just as cheap but much improved, SM57 with way better registration of the overtones in the amplified sound (if the player has any - not a given) less mid range honk and wider dynamic tracking. I prefer a 25 deg or so angle to the grille pointed just off the dust cap away from the floor and away from the drum kit Sennheiser MD421s and MD441s are also very good The best sounds I've gotten out of a condenser is with an AT AE3000s it has a similar enough form to a Sen E609/906 that you can hang it in front of the grill the same way but stands are still the best. Since you don't need the gain that condensers give you dynamics are usually the way to go. Ribbons pick up too much stage wash in most live situations (that I deal with) to be used. Plus they are (relative to dynamics and condensers) delicate and susceptible to being toasted by faulty cables with phantom power on them.... but having said that, they are the truest sound you can get for amplified guitar and lots of other things ( I love 'em and wish I owned more of 'em) I picked up a AT AE3000 on your recommendation a few weeks ago and I have never been happier. I can for the first time ever stand to hear a little bit of my guitar in the monitor because it sounds as good as the sound coming from my amp. Also is small, light weight, and I can hang it so I don't have to drag a stand along to gigs. thanks bigbean rp also I never liked the compression, mid bump, and extra distortion that a 57 added. Reason I used a Red Box for so long.
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Post by TBox on May 17, 2012 21:17:05 GMT -7
That's great Randalp3000. I ended up with the Sennheiser 421 II and have been pleased with my sound also. I really wanted to try the AT AE3000 also. It was just a toss up between the two.
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Post by jesslm02 on May 17, 2012 21:20:28 GMT -7
I've really been considering the Heil mics. I don't anyone that has used them though...
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 3:42:06 GMT -7
The Heil dynamic mics are all terrific sounding.
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Post by jesslm02 on May 18, 2012 5:10:12 GMT -7
^^^ Good to know, I need to give them a try for sure.
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Post by guitarblade929 on May 18, 2012 7:11:35 GMT -7
After having numerous sound guys convince me to "try this for one show," I have concluded that nothing sounds better in my ears than my 57. I have my guitar in my in ears and I can tell you that in my experience, non of the Senheisers reproduce the sound of my Maz 18. I especially don't like the 609. It just sounds flat and sterile.
For me, the 57 makes my guitar sound in my in ears exactly as it does without my in ears. I place the mic about 60 percent across from the center of the cone (closer to the outer edge) and move it back two fingers width (middle and index fingers together so the index touches the mic and the middle touches the grill.
Sounds great to me
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Post by randalp3000 on May 18, 2012 9:39:24 GMT -7
That's great Randalp3000. I ended up with the Sennheiser 421 II and have been pleased with my sound also. I really wanted to try the AT AE3000 also. It was just a toss up between the two. The 421 was my first choice but it needs a stand and it's a bit on the heavy (13.6oz's) and large side. The AT (6oz's) fits nicely in my pedal board case that's already pushing 50lbs.
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Post by jesslm02 on May 18, 2012 9:47:16 GMT -7
^^^ The AT requires phantom power, correct?
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