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Post by foxx on Mar 27, 2006 10:56:45 GMT -7
Do your guitars have a resistor in the volume pots to reduce treble loss when turning down the guitar's volume? Are there any pros and cons to this? Sometimes I want that real mellow tones that comes with turning down my volume, other times I want to just reduce volume and clean it up, not loose the highs.
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nickg
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Post by nickg on Mar 27, 2006 11:27:46 GMT -7
Active pickups and special circuitry would also do the trick and there's loads of disadvantages to that, but not sure about the resistor thing.
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Post by guitarman1 on Mar 27, 2006 11:37:30 GMT -7
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 27, 2006 12:03:45 GMT -7
A cap from the hot to the wiper passes treble as the volume is turned down. A resistor in parallel with that alters the taper of the pot - puts the "half volume" point a bit lower on the scale. You can find a schematic over on Lindy Fralin's web page at www.fralinpickups.com/wiring.asp - look for the "Volume Kit"
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Post by Curt on Mar 27, 2006 12:51:53 GMT -7
My most recent Tele has the cap for this, but also has a 500k volume pot? Sounded real cool at home but just did not work for me at the gig, I have to do some "cowboy chord" strumming with this band and the tone was WAY too brite and brittle. I have a Set of Amalfitano pups to replace the Duncan hot's it came with, if that does not fix it the 500k will get swapped for a 250k next, any thoughts on the guyZ?
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Post by terryg on Mar 27, 2006 13:40:23 GMT -7
Curt, maybe you'll want to check w/ Amalfitano as to what he recommends for pot values w/ his p'ups.
I have caps on my guitars as a matter of habit now, but I do sometimes want to dull out a bit when I drop the volume back. I just have to make two adjustments (volume and tone) instead of 1 in that case, justifiable in that I have the option vs. not having it.
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Post by Curt on Mar 27, 2006 14:17:58 GMT -7
Terry, (In beer commercial voice)
"Good Call"......
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Post by foxx on Mar 27, 2006 14:29:57 GMT -7
that's alot of info, thanks very much. I have to go and think about my life and how my pots relate to that.
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Post by Seńor Verde on Mar 27, 2006 21:50:42 GMT -7
I use 180pf caps on my McCarty's and that seems to work pretty well.
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Post by guitarman1 on Mar 28, 2006 9:26:53 GMT -7
My most recent Tele has the cap for this, but also has a 500k volume pot? Sounded real cool at home but just did not work for me at the gig, I have to do some "cowboy chord" strumming with this band and the tone was WAY too brite and brittle. I have a Set of Amalfitano pups to replace the Duncan hot's it came with, if that does not fix it the 500k will get swapped for a 250k next, any thoughts on the guyZ? In general....250k pots for single coils & 500k pots for humbuckers. 500k pots can be really bright for single coils. Theoretically, the cap shouldn't make much of a tonal difference with the pot wide open.
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Post by Curt on Mar 28, 2006 13:39:29 GMT -7
Thanks Guit'man, I know 250's are the norm for singles, just was not sure what effect a 550k would have, really not sure why Bill Nash would put that in there?
I think I'll swap it for a 250 when I swap the pups.
Thanks for the info.
Curt
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Post by Telemanic on Mar 28, 2006 15:34:24 GMT -7
Also check out kinman guitar pick ups website, unless i missed someone mentioning it already. It's a deep site as far as topics & pages, but theres a lot of great info in this and other regards. He has a great schematic and technical descriptions of this whole concept.
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Post by guitarman1 on Mar 29, 2006 13:27:43 GMT -7
Thanks Guit'man, I know 250's are the norm for singles, just was not sure what effect a 550k would have, really not sure why Bill Nash would put that in there? I think I'll swap it for a 250 when I swap the pups. Thanks for the info. Curt Sure thing Curt. Hey I just noticed you're a "Big Kahuna" now. Congrats!
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Post by rcrecelius on Mar 30, 2006 7:10:12 GMT -7
Ive read somewhere that (on a tele) you can run the wire from the tone control to the "wrong" lug on the volume pot to reduce treble loss...has anyone ever tried this method?
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Post by billyguitar on Mar 30, 2006 8:46:28 GMT -7
I thought I read that running the wire to the "wrong" lug makes the pot run backwards. Somebody wrote that once as a way to keep from turning your strat down accidently. A side thing, I don't care the standard tone caps on the tone pot. Too dark to be usable except on an Esquire. I reduce the vale in half or so with more usable results.
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Post by rcrecelius on Mar 30, 2006 10:17:29 GMT -7
I thought I read that running the wire to the "wrong" lug makes the pot run backwards. Somebody wrote that once as a way to keep from turning your strat down accidently. A side thing, I don't care the standard tone caps on the tone pot. Too dark to be usable except on an Esquire. I reduce the vale in half or so with more usable results. Im saying to run the tone control wire to the middle lug of the volume pot instead of the outside lug...the volume pot itself would be wired normally otherwise. I'll try to post a wiring diagram later.
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Post by cosmo on Mar 30, 2006 10:27:14 GMT -7
Another vote for the treble bleed. I have .001 mfd caps on my strats because I usually want more brightness as I roll off the volume so rhythm parts can sit back in the mix but still cut. Quieter/sharper and louder/rounder, if that makes any sense at all.
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