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Post by eagle2x on Nov 11, 2011 10:09:02 GMT -7
Hi All - considering pulling the trigger to buy the ZWreck - your comments and videos sound awesome for my tele to cover country, blues and rock, but how would the wreck sound on my es-335 (with stock 57 classic pickups) to achieve warm cleans for Jazz? Most videos with the 335 show the amp going into overdrive soon. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!
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Post by randalp3000 on Nov 11, 2011 14:10:56 GMT -7
One cool thing about the Wreck is that you have 3 12AX7's to tweak the gain with. I hope it works for me, I'll find out next week.
good luck rp
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Post by eagle2x on Nov 11, 2011 14:34:08 GMT -7
Please post your findings, rp. Thanks!
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Post by randalp3000 on Nov 11, 2011 15:16:16 GMT -7
Will do, how clean do you want it? I got a bunch of NOS 12ay7's.12AT's, and 5751's. I'm looking for more headroom than my Stangray with humbuckers. Hope it works.
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Post by eagle2x on Nov 12, 2011 18:58:58 GMT -7
Anyone else try to get clean jazzy tones with a 335?
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Post by KeithA on Nov 12, 2011 20:01:21 GMT -7
Will do, how clean do you want it? I got a bunch of NOS 12ay7's.12AT's, and 5751's. I'm looking for more headroom than my Stangray with humbuckers. Hope it works. That sound a like an ambitious plan Keith
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Post by prspastor on Nov 13, 2011 4:56:10 GMT -7
This really interests me... I'd love to match up a 335 with a Wreck and see what happens too. I bet you can get some Larry Carlton tones. Clean to a very soft overdrive...
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Post by Joey Beverages on Nov 15, 2011 6:25:30 GMT -7
This really interests me... I'd love to match up a 335 with a Wreck and see what happens too. I bet you can get some Larry Carlton tones. Clean to a very soft overdrive... yes ... while I've only had minimal play time with my '339 thru the Wreck .... and while I prefer my Galaxie and/or Remedy for 'jazz' cleans ..... you can bet the Wreck will deliver some sweeeet sounds
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Post by eagle2x on Nov 19, 2011 22:15:42 GMT -7
So.....anyone have any thoughts whether the Z Wreck can handle a 335 clean for Jazz or whether the buckers send it into overdrive to soon?
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Post by Frankie Starr on Nov 29, 2011 12:47:56 GMT -7
Maybe at real low, jazz volumes. It does break up pretty quick with buckers. But it's not going to be anything like the Fender cleans. More hair. I just checked, but I pulled a vid i made with my 335, it was mainly semi-distorted sounds. Here is a pretty unique vid of my buddy playing his nylon string through the Wreck. It was pretty soft in volume, but worked out well here.
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Post by eagle2x on Nov 29, 2011 19:01:29 GMT -7
Frankie: thanks so much for the post! Boy is your teacher talented. I appreciate your honesty with the 335, that's what I was afraid of. The Z wreck sounds outanding for the single coils and for the overdrive tones of buckers. However, I was hoping it would be my holy grail sole amp needed for all styles I play - yes, clean Jazz too. Do you know if the comfort/speed switch would increase the headroom to get a little louder for Jazz? I am after the Larry Carlton sound that he gets with his dumble amp.
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Post by Frankie Starr on Nov 30, 2011 8:19:47 GMT -7
Comfort is a softersound, Speed a little stiffer and cleaner. It's not in the Dumble catagory, totally different flavor. I love LC and those kinds of tones. The closest thing I would comapre it to is a great sounding Vox AC30. Saying that, everyone's different, you might like this for jazz. I play some jazz , for me it's got to have the cleans. To use a golf reference, your using the wrong club for the shot. Larry uses everyday Fender;s as backline , his current stuff is bone dry Fender. Maybe a Zendrive.....that is if he's not using the Dumble. I hear he uses a Bludotone too....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 8:34:31 GMT -7
Hi All - considering pulling the trigger to buy the ZWreck - your comments and videos sound awesome for my tele to cover country, blues and rock, but how would the wreck sound on my es-335 (with stock 57 classic pickups) to achieve warm cleans for Jazz? Most videos with the 335 show the amp going into overdrive soon. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! I'd agree with the overdrive- Like a Johnny B Goode tone is easy with the Wreck. I wouldn't use it for Jazz. Probably everything else but
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Post by randalp3000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:46:40 GMT -7
Will do, how clean do you want it? I got a bunch of NOS 12ay7's.12AT's, and 5751's. I'm looking for more headroom than my Stangray with humbuckers. Hope it works. Sorry I didn't follow through for ya, I had to send my Wreck back because of some issues with the seller. Hope to have one back in January. Not sure if this cat has been out of the bag yet; V1 in the Wreck is only using one half of the 12AX7. You can easily lower the input gain on this amp without affecting any other gain stages by changing V1. If you need more headroom try a 12AY(gain of 40), 5751(80), 12AX(100). Pick up some tubes and give it a shot. Please share your findings and good luck rp
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Post by eagle2x on Nov 30, 2011 19:06:24 GMT -7
Great stuff guys - thanks so much. So.....I guess it's going to be my Princeton reverb for Jazz and a ZWreck for all else! UNLESS, you can point m 3 to a Dr Z that will sound sweetener than my Princeton for jazz?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 20:05:36 GMT -7
Will do, how clean do you want it? I got a bunch of NOS 12ay7's.12AT's, and 5751's. I'm looking for more headroom than my Stangray with humbuckers. Hope it works. Sorry I didn't follow through for ya, I had to send my Wreck back because of some issues with the seller. Hope to have one back in January. Not sure if this cat has been out of the bag yet;(I had to pull the chassis before sending it back) V1 in the Wreck is only using one half of the 12AX7. You can easily lower the input gain on this amp without affecting any other gain stages by changing V1. If you need more headroom try a 12AY(gain of 40), 5751(80), 12AX(100). Pick up some tubes and give it a shot. Please share your findings and good luck rp I'm I understanding correctly. You sent a Z Wreck back that was a floor model sold new-Yet before you sent it back you pulled the chassis and played with Tubes -etc??
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Post by randalp3000 on Nov 30, 2011 22:20:17 GMT -7
Sorry I didn't follow through for ya, I had to send my Wreck back because of some issues with the seller. Hope to have one back in January. Not sure if this cat has been out of the bag yet;(I had to pull the chassis before sending it back) V1 in the Wreck is only using one half of the 12AX7. You can easily lower the input gain on this amp without affecting any other gain stages by changing V1. If you need more headroom try a 12AY(gain of 40), 5751(80), 12AX(100). Pick up some tubes and give it a shot. Please share your findings and good luck rp I'm I understanding correctly. You sent a Z Wreck back that was a floor model sold new-Yet before you sent it back you pulled the chassis and played with Tubes -etc?? I did take a peek inside before I decided to send it back but I did not get a chance to play with any tubes. It seemed like it had a little more clean volume stock than what I'm getting with my Stangray which is something I really wanted. The blue/gold combo might have had something to do with it also. Also the dealer denied it was a floor model (which I would have been ok with) despite it being in the wrong boxes, they blamed the damage on the good Dr, and they discounted it which I found out later is a big NO NO after I was contacted by Brent. 3 strikes and your out. I will definitely be putting a new one on order very soon. I can't wait to try one of these for a gig, the wait is killing me. someday soon rp
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Post by Frankie Starr on Nov 30, 2011 22:59:10 GMT -7
Great stuff guys - thanks so much. So.....I guess it's going to be my Princeton reverb for Jazz and a ZWreck for all else! UNLESS, you can point m 3 to a Dr Z that will sound sweetener than my Princeton for jazz? That's what I would do . Love my Princeton for Jazz. ZWreck for other cool stuff. Th right tools for the right job
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Post by prspastor on Dec 17, 2011 6:39:16 GMT -7
I love a Princeton Reverb for jazz. Also, try this: 335 into a Fulldrive II. Into a reverb into a Route 66 into a Z 1x12 with G12H30. Treble at noon, bass all theway to the left. Fulldrive tone at 2 o'clock, overdrive at 2 o'clock, boost at 9 o'clock, Mosfet setting, FM setting. Use boost to taste. Very close to Larry Carlton's tone.
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Post by eagle2x on Dec 17, 2011 22:22:22 GMT -7
Wow...prspastor - that combo is certainly worth a try! I was spending some time today looking at the 66 on you tube. Interesting flavors!
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Post by prspastor on Dec 19, 2011 17:10:13 GMT -7
You are most welcome! And welcome to Z Talk! Bear in mind that with the above settings, you'll want to run the 66 clean. All of the overdrive comes from the FullDrive. Smooooth!
Oh, also forgot, you can also add delay in that mix too. Larry often plays with a bit of delay.
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