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Post by Wes C. on Mar 13, 2008 21:36:01 GMT -7
I will need a good reverb pedal once I get a new amp. I was wandering what any of you use for reverb. I thought about the rv-5 because I like the modulate setting. I have never played a verbzilla, but have heard good things about them. And I have heard good things about the holy grail, and I like the one knob design because it is easy to turn with your foot. I haven't had a good experience with Electro-Harmonix pedals though. I have only had the Double muff and the Worm, and both were very hissy. Many of the other EH pedals I have played I heard noise on. I also saw the Danelectro Spring King. I believe that it actually has a spring reverb tank in it which is nice, but I takes up a lot of room on a pedalboard. Let me know which reverb you guys prefer and what other reverbs you use.
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Post by ruger9 on Mar 14, 2008 3:53:25 GMT -7
Funny you should ask... I've got a Holy Grail+ which I'm very happy with, but have been eyeing the RV-5 for it's modulation setting. I have ZERO use for the Flerb setting on the HG; it's terrible IMHO. Great Spring & Hall verbs tho! I might just get an RV-5 for a side-by-side, but haven't convinced myself to pull the trigger yet. If the RV-5's spring & hall are as good as the HG+'s, I'd replace the HG+ with the RV-5... again, just for the modulation setting.
I looked at the Verbzilla too, just not interesting to me. But I am specifically looking for a setting with modulation, so... Also, the Line 6 has a different power adaptor than ALL my other pedals. Kind of a PITA.
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2008 5:12:46 GMT -7
I use a Verbzilla. I like it, but I don't depend on reverb all that much. I only use one setting, sort of a spring reverb tone. It's cheap and user friendly. (although I can't imagine a reverb unit not being friendly)
I use it with a One Spot power source, the 1Spot comes with Line 6 adapters.
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Post by hogridr on Mar 14, 2008 10:11:03 GMT -7
I have not heard the Verbzilla. I have the Holy Grail, I like the spring and hall. I have not found a use for the flerb, other than to amuse my son. I use a One Spot, but I even with the adapter for the HG, I get a "whistle" out of it with the One Spot. I use the supplied adapter for it and plug everything else into the one spot.
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Post by Wes C. on Mar 14, 2008 10:36:48 GMT -7
Hogridr, that is the exact problem I have with my one spot and the adapter for my DL4. My friend has the same proble with the Pro Co Rat adapter. I just decided to use the original Line 6 adapter for the DL4 and run everything else through the one spot. Maybe I just need to get a pedal power. They are much more expensive, but no whistle.
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Post by hogridr on Mar 14, 2008 12:05:43 GMT -7
Hogridr, that is the exact problem I have with my one spot and the adapter for my DL4. My friend has the same proble with the Pro Co Rat adapter. I just decided to use the original Line 6 adapter for the DL4 and run everything else through the one spot. Maybe I just need to get a pedal power. They are much more expensive, but no whistle. I tried the pedal power, did not invest just hooked up one the belonged to a buddy. I can't remember for the life of me which pedal I had problems with, I don't think I had the HG then. It was a high pitched whine. I ended up buying the one spot after that. I have 9-10 pedals anyway (overkill I know), my wah is 18volt, and the HG with it's own, so it works out with the one spot powering the other 8 |
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Post by billyguitar on Mar 15, 2008 7:10:56 GMT -7
I have an ancient Arion Stage Tuner that gets that whine with the one spot, just like the Holy Grail does. I really think the noise problems people complain about with the HG is using the wrong power supply.
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Post by williamh on Mar 15, 2008 11:40:49 GMT -7
I've owned all three(and a dr scientist RRR), and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the holy grail. The rv-5 is only worth its modulated settings. It's the reason I bought one, and in the end decided that it just wasn't worth it for only that setting. The other settings just sound very metallic and just don't sound very nice in general. The holy grail is an all around nice sounding reverb, but its a little limited in my opinion. The verbzilla can cover all normal reverb needs, as well as including some awesome sounds like the cave(biggest sounding reverb you'll ever find), and octo(really cool synth type sounds available here) settings. I actually used to have two verbzillas on my old big pedalboard because I liked them so much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2008 13:47:59 GMT -7
Reverb can be such a headache.
I need it bad - so I've settled on the RV-5. I tend to keep it on the Room setting (just a hint) for the most part, but the plate and modulation settings are great to play around with.
The best reverb I've used is Lexicon, but I got rid of my rack gear. Some people swear by tube reverb only, but I've tried some of those that were just noisy or too "boingy".
Hopefully your local shop has several you can taste test, because we all have it in our heads what good reverb should sound like.
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Post by Wes C. on Mar 15, 2008 20:46:36 GMT -7
Yeah, the Musiciansfriend clearance center is actuall 20 mins from my house, so I have been needing to take a trip there to play some pedals. I really like what I've heard from demos of the Verbzilla.
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Post by ruger9 on Mar 16, 2008 6:09:02 GMT -7
I've owned all three(and a dr scientist RRR), and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the holy grail. The rv-5 is only worth its modulated settings. It's the reason I bought one, and in the end decided that it just wasn't worth it for only that setting. The other settings just sound very metallic and just don't sound very nice in general. So William, IYO, the RV-5 spring & hall setting definitely sound more metallic/atrificial than the HG settings? Because I'm happy with my HG+, but am looking at the RV-5 for the mod setting. However, if the spring & hall on the RV-5 can't stand up to the HG+, like you I don't think I'd keep it just for the mod settings. I don't need TWO reverbs on the board... |
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Post by williamh on Mar 16, 2008 9:05:55 GMT -7
I've owned all three(and a dr scientist RRR), and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the holy grail. The rv-5 is only worth its modulated settings. It's the reason I bought one, and in the end decided that it just wasn't worth it for only that setting. The other settings just sound very metallic and just don't sound very nice in general. So William, IYO, the RV-5 spring & hall setting definitely sound more metallic/atrificial than the HG settings? Because I'm happy with my HG+, but am looking at the RV-5 for the mod setting. However, if the spring & hall on the RV-5 can't stand up to the HG+, like you I don't think I'd keep it just for the mod settings. I don't need TWO reverbs on the board... Yeah, I would definitely say that the spring and hall settings sound more natural on the holy grail. In my opinion the only reason to own an rv-5 is the modulate setting. It's cool, but hardly worth the the price of the pedal IMHO. |
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Post by mikey on Apr 1, 2008 14:45:02 GMT -7
I see Brad Paisley has the RV-5 so I would tend to believe it sounds the best with the amp. I tried one when I was buying my amp and it sounded just as good as the Fender 63 reverb I tried as well.
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Post by brad737 on Apr 1, 2008 15:08:36 GMT -7
Hi Wes,
I've been interested in getting a reverb pedal lately as well. I played the RV-5, and I honestly only liked the Room and Hall settings. I thought the rest of them sounded too "fake". I also tried out the Holy Grail. It sounded a LOT better to my ears, and is also True Bypass if you care about that sort of thing. The Flerb (?) setting was totally useless on that though. I think the Boss is $150 at GC, while the Holy Grail is $100.
However, I hesitated to buy one on the spot. I've done quite a bit of reading on the net about reverbs, so there are a couple more I want to try before buying. By all accounts, the Holy Grail Plus, and the Holier Grail are far superior to the Holy Grail. Also, I've read good reviews of the Verbzilla.
Just like anything else though. Try before you buy. Also, please let us know what you do.
Thanks,
Brad
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Post by Wes C. on Apr 1, 2008 15:23:30 GMT -7
From the sounds I hear from demos, and the reviews I've read, I think I am going with the Verbzilla. I really like the Octo and Cave settings along with the others. We'll se what happens when I actually play one though.
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Post by pmdriver965 on Apr 3, 2008 14:51:20 GMT -7
I'm another guy following this one - I'd love to have a great reverb for my maz, but the closest decent music store is a couple of hours away, so I'd like to have a few great ideas before taking the road trip.
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Post by azatplayer on Apr 14, 2008 4:48:19 GMT -7
I have the verbzilla and the holier grail. I like them both. The line 6 pedals WILL NOT run quietly when daisy'd to other pedals, period.
They even state that. So you have to either use battery(last about 5 minutes!) or its own power supply. Great pedal tho. Very good for vocals too, in a pinch.
The Holier Grail is a little more organic, analogueish tho its digital. The flerb is great if you are Henry Kaiser... but another one of the EH hippy leaders unusual ideas. Nice verb choices, sure to find one that works for you. The gates take a little nutting out.
In fact my deluxe mem man took a little nutting out too, but is worth the effort, great pedal.
I want a Maxon AD 999...
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Post by ruger9 on Apr 14, 2008 5:32:32 GMT -7
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Post by Dr.T on Apr 14, 2008 9:01:48 GMT -7
Nice!!
1 knob, I like that.
Is there any real spring inside??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2008 14:53:42 GMT -7
I gave the Mr. Springy a listen and it was good, but I really heard no significant difference between its spring verb and my RV-5. I like the voice options on the RV. They're not perfect, but good enough without having to go to a rack unit.
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Post by ruger9 on Apr 15, 2008 3:11:39 GMT -7
No spring inside, I've heard the entire PCB is gooped, so no one knows what's in there. There is a trimpot inside for adjusting the Dwell.
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Post by pmdriver965 on Apr 15, 2008 12:00:35 GMT -7
I'd heard good things about Tech 21's RVB pedal - and I got one as part of a trade deal today. Haven't heard it yet, but the price was unbeatable, I hope it turns out the way I'd like.
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Post by brad737 on Apr 27, 2008 17:51:26 GMT -7
Any news on the reverb front, guys?
Thanks,
bs
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Post by ruger9 on Apr 27, 2008 18:31:49 GMT -7
I do still really enjoy my Holy Grail +, and only want to try the Mr. Springgy out of curiosity, not because I'm not happy with the Grail. The only complaint I have about the Grail is you have to use the wall wart, or an isolated power supply like the PP2+. You can't daisy-cahin it with a one-spot or DC Brick, it creates noise.
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Post by Wes C. on Apr 27, 2008 20:52:02 GMT -7
I do still really enjoy my Holy Grail +, and only want to try the Mr. Springgy out of curiosity, not because I'm not happy with the Grail. The only complaint I have about the Grail is you have to use the wall wart, or an isolated power supply like the PP2+. You can't daisy-cahin it with a one-spot or DC Brick, it creates noise. Well, you might be able to now if you talk to Lizard Leg. I am still very interested in the Verbzilla. I might have to get another Gizzard for that too if he makes one for 9V AC if I get a Verbzilla because the line 6 adapter on my One Spot tends to make noise, but we'll see. |
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Post by pmdriver965 on May 5, 2008 14:10:33 GMT -7
The Tech21 R.V.B. has been working very well for me, and adds very little noise powered from a T-Rex.
It took some tweaking to get it just where I wanted it to be -
In the loop it's crazy quiet, and very "tweakable". On my board (last) it's still very useable.
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Post by Rik on May 12, 2008 21:49:25 GMT -7
I do not have a line 6 nor have I tried one, but I just got a Holy Grail in a trade and it is one of the best reverbs I have ever heard. I am running out front through a Radial Big Shot looper and it sound great. No distortion at the end, 2 settings (flurb?  ) and one knob ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Mogens on Jun 3, 2008 3:44:28 GMT -7
I've tried the Holy Grail, but it was way too noisy, so I sold it. These days I've considered the Sole-Mate from Van Amps (rather big and expensive for a "pedal", but with a real spring-tank) . But lately I stumbled over Dr. Scientist' Radical Red Reverberator. It seems to be very well recommended, also by my local "pedal-pusher", who is a good guy delivering objective information on any pedal. This Dr. Scientist stuff is quite fun to read about on the web-site, and the Reverberator comes in a lot of different very cool designs in all colours. The pedal itself is said to be very "musical" and with some really huge reverb. But I have yet to try it out though.
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Post by ajnewkirk on Jun 9, 2008 22:01:47 GMT -7
After trying every reverb unit I could find, I settled on a Mr. Springy. I highly recommend that you check 1 out before buying any reverb unit  |
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Post by ruger9 on Jun 10, 2008 3:52:20 GMT -7
I've heard nothing but raves about Mr. Springgy. If I were ever searching for another reverb, and wasn't going to go actual spring (like a Fender '63 or a Vanamps Sole-Mate), I'd definitely check out Mr. Springgy.
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) and one knob ;D ;D ;D ;D