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Post by dei305 on Mar 27, 2011 10:38:01 GMT -7
My 52 RI updated with Lollar Firebird Neck and Special T (tap) Bridge. The FB has coil tap (500K push pull volume control), the Special T (tap on 500K Push Pull Tone control turns the pickup into a Lollar Vintage).  5 way switch (N, N+B Parallel,Bridge, N+B 1/2 out of phase (creates a quack tone), neck with 10% less bass.  Then, consider the coil tap options and you have a cornucopia of voices.  Glendale double cut vintage bridge, titanium saddles and ferrules, and my RMF Tone cap kit featuring Sozo caps. Rick |
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Post by Scott on Mar 27, 2011 11:21:23 GMT -7
True beauty Rick... Stunning really. I am a sucker for the look of the 52 RI anyway. Probably the exact Tele that I would most want.  BTW - I never directly asked you, but do you have a pre-wired version on your RMF Tone cap kit for Les Pauls? Just wondering, if so, rub my nose on it!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 18:41:30 GMT -7
very nice looking guitar! I am a real sucker for teles as well...
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Post by Scott on Mar 27, 2011 19:12:09 GMT -7
And 52 RI's... |
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Post by dei305 on Mar 28, 2011 3:51:14 GMT -7
BurstBucker Pro
but do you have a pre-wired version on your RMF Tone cap kit for Les Pauls?
I'm not sure what you mean by pre-wired version. Typically, I add the cap/resistor to existing volume pot(s) and the tone cap to the tone pot(s).
Many thanks and please let me know.
Rick
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Post by Scott on Mar 28, 2011 5:49:30 GMT -7
I thought you might put one of your kits on a board like this... www.mojotone.com/guitar-parts/guitar-assemblies-prewired-gibson-styleand sell them pre-wired for Les Paul guys... Just a thought. You would have the smarts to wire me up with push-pull pots, and I would just drop it in, and attach my pickups, switch, and bridge grounding wire. (I am thinking the kit would also give me my coil taps, and/or parallel/series options) I might not have the correct idea of the kit. |
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Post by dei305 on Mar 28, 2011 11:15:38 GMT -7
BBP,
Great idea! The pickups would need to be 4 conductor + the bare wire.
Lemee think about this one.
Or, if you wanted Choice 2:
Master Volume (with TMC tone maintenance circuit) , Master Tone (Sozo .047), Neck volume (Push-Pull with coil tap) and Bridge Volume (Push Pull with coil tap).
Many thanks!
Rick
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Post by Scott on Mar 28, 2011 11:44:18 GMT -7
At this moment in time, my instructions to the tech would be... Install (2) 500K push pull tone pots.
with both pots in, I want standard Les Paul operation.
With pots out, coil tap the outside coils of each humbucker.
With my switch in the middle position, and both pots out, I want my 'Wide Mode' using the 2 outside single coils, humbucking with each other. That would be a single coil Alnico 2 Neck, humbucking with a single coil Alnico 5 Bridge, with a mis-match in DC resistance involved... Hopefully it should make an interesting, and usable sound! Anything else is gravy to me... I don't favor the Master Tone and Volume control. I'm rather stuck on the standard function of each pot. But then again, I don't have a clear picture in my head of how it would work the other way. I could flip on that... I believe that even when my Tone push pull pots are out, they would still act as tone controls. To be honest, my head is still spinning in circles trying to decide. ;D  I really don't know enough to have a strong opinion.  This 4 lead Lollar pickup thing is all new to me. |
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Post by dei305 on Mar 28, 2011 13:56:36 GMT -7
At this moment in time, my instructions to the tech would be...
Install (2) 500K push pull tone pots.
with both pots in, I want standard Les Paul operation.
With pots out, coil tap the outside coils of each humbucker.
With my switch in the middle position, and both pots out, I want my 'Wide Mode' using the 2 outside single coils, humbucking with each other.
That would be a single coil Alnico 2 Neck, humbucking with a single coil Alnico 5 Bridge, with a mis-match in DC resistance involved...
Hopefully it should make an interesting, and usable sound!
Anything else is gravy to me...
I don't favor the Master Tone and Volume control.
I'm rather stuck on the standard function of each pot.
But then again, I don't have a clear picture in my head of how it would work the other way.
I could flip on that...
I believe that even when my Tone push pull pots are out, they would still act as tone controls.
To be honest, my head is still spinning in circles trying to decide.
I really don't know enough to have a strong opinion.
This 4 lead Lollar pickup thing is all new to me.Ok, When you have a moment, please give Greg Timmons (Lollar GM) a call @ 206-463-9838 to discuss using the "Screw" Coils when the "Slug" portion are grounded. Yes, The tone pot will still work regardless of the switch in or out. I like having the Master Volume/Tone for a standard 4 pot "Gibson" style set up. I like not having to deal with two volume controls when using the middle position..when I want to use the the parallel tone as a rhythm tone and need to bring the volume down, one volume control does it all. I can still have whatever pickup balance I want and let the master do all the work. What kind of guitar are you thinking about for this set up? I appreciate your questions..so keep em coming.. Many thanks for your interest. Rick
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Post by Scott on Mar 28, 2011 18:51:27 GMT -7
Thanks... This guitar, with a callaham bridge install: www.callahamguitars.com/g_brdgn2b.jpgGetting Low wind Imperials in the neck, and regular wind in the bridge. (both 4 lead humbuckers)  Let me ask you this... If you were only going to pick one sound, Do you think my 2 inside coils, or 2 outside coils would give me a better sound? (Humbucking with each other.) I am under the impression the norm is to use the 2 inside coils, if going to run your humbuckers, in single coil mode. If I did go the next step, having all 4 pots being the push/pull type... What would be the next, most useful thing to me? Maybe having series/parallel wiring on each humbucker... I am a hunbucker fan by nature, and do love that they don't hummmm. I love humbucker modes the most, over having more single coil modes. |
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Post by dei305 on Mar 28, 2011 20:06:32 GMT -7
BBP,
Sweet Guitar! Callaham Bridge, yes!
Here in the Sarasota, Bradenton, Tampa Bay area, I play with many different bands covering many different genres of music. I find that if I use a LP with Buckers, the low-wind taped voice works great for motown, R&B, and funk rhythm tones. As does the parallel setting with both Buckers tapped. Occasionally, I will need a chicken-picken bridge tone, bridge bucker tapped and I got it.
In speaking with Greg Timmons and Mike Henke (production manager at Lollar), the performance preference is to go with the screw side to ground and the slug side to be on. I am pretty sure you can have the pick up configured with the outside coils to stay on while the slugs go the ground.
As you can tell by now, I have had huge success with Jason Lollar pups. I really love what they bring in any configuration my guitar(s) offers. The bottom line for me is which guitar(s) do I use for a particular gig. Sometimes my 97 Tele with a Mini Humbucker in the neck (with coil tap) and other tele tones really fit the overall gig. Sometime one of my strats with Lollar Blondes (A parallel switch for bridge and neck/ series switch for fatter almost P-90's tone, or out of phase.
The great news for you is you guitar will sound incredible! I realize this is all new to you. In a very short period of time, I'm sure you will figure out what voice will work in a given part of a song.
I hope this helps.
Many thanks!
Rick
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Post by Scott on Mar 28, 2011 22:09:27 GMT -7
Thanks Rick, That helps a bunch... 1) Glad to hear the the low-wind taped voice has it's place... 2) "As does the parallel setting with both Buckers tapped". (keeping this in mind for a later comment) 3) "Occasionally, I will need a chicken-picken bridge tone, bridge bucker tapped and I got it." Glad to hear that even the bridge also sounds good tapped. 4) "In speaking with Greg Timmons and Mike Henke (production manager at Lollar), the performance preference is to go with the screw side to ground and the slug side to be on." Outstanding information, and more than enough to get me to change my position on that.... If the boy's at Lollar think it best to run the inside coils when tapped, that is the way I want to go then. I trust they have a reason... About #2, If I had both humbuckers running in single coil mode, and my pickup selector switch was in the middle position, would my 2 single coils be humbucking in parallel or serial mode? (Normally) I now think if I go for 2 push/pull pots giving me coil taps... and 2 more giving me series/parallel on each humbucker... and the middle position of my selector switch giving me: 2 inside coils, humbucking... bridge in single, with neck as a humbucker... bridge as a humbucker, and neck in single coil mode... I probably will be more than happy. I believe if I wanted Phase Shifting too, I would need to drill some toggle switch holes, or replace my current 3 position switch with this beast: www.futureguitarnow.com/forum/index.php?topic=995.0It wouldn't currently even fit in my guitar without expanding the chamber! I think I can live without phase shifting. If you were going to have 2 pots split the coils... and 2 pots for series/parallel wiring on each humbucker... What 2 pots would you use to split the coils? Tone, or volume? Is there a best answer? Thanks again for all your help. |
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Post by dei305 on Mar 29, 2011 8:56:34 GMT -7
About #2,
If I had both humbuckers running in single coil mode, and my pickup selector switch was in the middle position, would my 2 single coils be humbucking in parallel or serial mode? (Normally)Yup, you will have "hum-cancelling" with both pups tapped and in middle position. If you were going to have 2 pots split the coils...
and 2 pots for series/parallel wiring on each humbucker...
What 2 pots would you use to split the coils?
Tone, or volume? Is there a best answer? My brain works Pup Volume>coil tap.. Bottom line is whatever works best for you.. Rick
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Post by Scott on Mar 29, 2011 9:34:41 GMT -7
Thanks man... Me too. My new install instructionsHave 4 new 500K Push/Pull pots installed.
With all 4 pots pushed down, normal Les Paul operation.
The 2 volume controls when pulled out, will run each Humbucker in single coil mode.
They will be using the non-screw side of the humbuckers, as Lollar recommends.
Note that when my standard 3 position toggle switch is in the middle position, I want my 2 single coil (inside) pickups humbucking with each other.
When the 2 Tone pots get pulled out, I want each humbucker to switch from being wired in Series, to Parallel.Just for the record, you have been a tremendous help to me Rick.  I am going to have to see if my Chrome UFO knobs are going to have to be replaced with the the Tele ones... www.amazon.com/Fender-Telecaster-P-Bass-Chrome-Barrel/dp/B003WY9WXWMine might turn out to be hard to grab? |
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