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Post by LeftyLang on Jul 1, 2006 21:23:06 GMT -7
Fulltone tube tape echo...anyone have one or tried one ?
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Post by johnnyl on Jul 2, 2006 0:47:29 GMT -7
my buddy has one and I've played through it a few times. It's cool but jeez $900 or so is a lot o' cash for an effect... It's got some really lush sounds on tap but I think you can get 80% of the way there for 1/2 the price w/ pedals like the TRex, Maxon AD900 (my favorite pedal), Memory Lane just to name a few. He swears by it though.. Sounds real good w/ his Hiwatt..
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Post by foxx on Jul 5, 2006 8:28:19 GMT -7
GoodOl'peachphan has a Toneczar Echoczar for sale with expression pedal and angelbaby. Don't fail to check out the toneczar site before you buy a stereo delay. Peach even said that the Powerglide tremolo is more impressive than the Echoczar. The downloads on the side aren't the best but the powerglide seems to breath. I have tried a Supatrem, and it seems to be sterile.IMO
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jul 5, 2006 11:44:14 GMT -7
It's not so much 'for sale' as it is 'well if somebody makes me an offer I coudln't refuse it ain't bolted down.' Seriously, I just plugged into the 'czar after a pretty good hiatus, and it blew my mind again. There really isn't anything out there to compare it to. Sorry... it really isn't for sale. It was just a fleeting moment where I could use the money and thought it would be VERY easy to move.
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Post by LeftyLang on Jul 8, 2006 22:03:53 GMT -7
Well..I went & picked one up and the Ghia & Z28 run in stereo through the TTE sounds Awesome! The depth of the TTE is just huge. My old Maxon AD80 sounds great, but no where near the TTE IMO.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Jul 11, 2006 14:25:05 GMT -7
I went through an extensive delay hunt a few years ago. I narrowed it down to the Maxon AD-900 and the Moogerfooger. I bought the Moogerfooger from Musictoyz and really didn't like it. I could never get the input gain control set to where I had a strong enough level, and still enough headroom so that it didn't clip in a very un-musical way. I kept it and bought the Maxon. The echos are nice but it makes the "original" signal too warm and takes away too much impact. Then I ordered one of the very first TTE's and was completely blown away. It's a couple of years later and it's still a cornerstone of my rig. It does things that no other analog delay (except the 'Czar) can do, sounds killer and has been very reliable. It's also dead quiet. I of course am on the Echoczar waiting list too! Every once in a while I pull out the Maxon and Mooger and try them out; they are still blown away by the TTE.
PDW
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jul 12, 2006 10:42:17 GMT -7
pdw -- I got to experience the moogerfooger analog delay at the gearpage pedalfest in chicago a few months ago, and I thought it did some really cool, dark, syrypy, thick, sweet modulated analog delay sounds, and had some great oscillation. Of course that format didn't provide time to hit it hard with boosts, od's, distortions, and fuzzes, and maybe my opinion of it would have changed in that case, but for really dark sounding thick delays even the Echoczar couldn't match it. That said, I think my overall preference is probably still obvious. That was a unique experience though to hear the Memory Lane, Echoczar, and Moogerfooger all in the same room. No clear winner, as it's such a personal taste thing, but it was really cool to hear just how VERY different all three boxes really are... VERY different. The only things they have in common is that they're all analog delays. I just wish someone would have had a TTE on hand, as I still have yet to experience one of those.
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Post by marsellus on Jul 12, 2006 12:11:44 GMT -7
Don't know how the fulltone sounds (I'm sure it's amazing, though), but you may be able to find a vintage Echoplex on ebay. From the pictures on the fulltone site, it looks about the same - of course, the fulltone looks "newer." When we (Marsellus) recorded our demo, the engineer had an old Echoplex that we used for some effects, and it sounded really cool. If you listen to the song "Any Sleepless Night" on our myspace page, during the slower part toward the end, you can hear it, and it kind of speeds up a little before the song kicks back in. Just saying, if you're strapped for cash, you may want the vintage Echoplex. Here's the myspace page I was referring to: www.myspace.com/marsellusmusic-Josh www.marsellus.net
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 12, 2006 14:45:24 GMT -7
Most of the old Echoplexes need maintenance. Mine has too much wow and flutter. I did change the tape and clean the heads but it didn't help. One thing about tape echoes, hiss. The Roland Space Echo I had hissed more than the Echoplex. The Echoplex also sounds better thru an effects loop, less hiss.
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Post by LeftyLang on Jul 12, 2006 22:33:12 GMT -7
My TTE is dead quiet. I had to sell a strat to get it, but it was well worth it. Ran it with my Route 66 today straight in and it sounded incredible!!
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Post by taswegian on Jul 12, 2006 22:44:25 GMT -7
I'm not listening, I'm not listening....(he says with hands over his ears) ;D
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Post by LeftyLang on Jul 12, 2006 22:48:46 GMT -7
You are listening...listening...listening...listening...
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 13, 2006 6:58:28 GMT -7
I always wondered why someone didn't make a dolby kit for the old ones. If I was going for a tape echo I'm sure this would be a good one, better than any old one. For a while back in the 1980s I used mine on the PA for echo. It was always fun when I got to the next gig to turn it on and listen to the last few minutes of the last gig. Usually the end of the last song and a couple of minutes of random conversation. We always got a laugh out of something on the tape. I always loved how you can make the old Echoplex do the space ship feed back thing. Danny Gatton's Red Neck Jazz live New Year's CD has a spot where he makes his go nuts, really funny.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jul 13, 2006 7:59:42 GMT -7
billy, don't most analog guys find dolby to be rather evil?
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Post by Lefty on Jul 13, 2006 8:13:59 GMT -7
I thought it was DUBLY?
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jul 13, 2006 8:27:59 GMT -7
I thought it was DUBLY? LOL. ;D Lefty, I dig your reminder note too...
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 13, 2006 9:13:57 GMT -7
In cassette tape decks it always varied from deck to deck. I had some that worked like it should and some that cut too much high end off. The Roland Space echo, that I sold, and my solidstate Echoplex both hissed a lot into the front of an amp. It's worse on a guitar amp because of the boosted treble. That's why they work better thru the effects loop. At least with the Echoplex when you turned the echo off the hiss stopped, the Roland didn't.
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Post by real oldster on Jul 13, 2006 9:31:43 GMT -7
I always loved how you can make the old Echoplex do the space ship feed back thing.Somebody needs to build that into a delay pedal!
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Post by LeftyLang on Jul 18, 2006 21:59:41 GMT -7
Another cool feature about the TTE is the tube driven boost of up to 25 db. Sounds great with the 66.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Jul 27, 2006 8:04:49 GMT -7
The boost function of the TTE is something I rely on when using my Fralin equipped Strats. Fuller's claim of "once you hear the difference in your tone with the TTE you won't go back" is right on the money. And, I agree with LeftyLang- the TTE is DEAD QUIET. My Moogerfooger and AD-900 aren't what I would call noisy, but the TTE is so quiet it's like it's not even in the chain. If it wasn't for the slight mechanical tape noise, you wouldn't know it was on.
PDW
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Post by steveinnashville on Jul 29, 2006 11:55:36 GMT -7
Maybe it's not in the same class, but I get lots of good delay sounds and CRAZY modulation from the Deluxe Memory Man (especially if you're into knob spinning with looped parts playing into it). I can make it sound like a helicopter landing on my roof. Or, just a plain delay. Great for slap back, gilmour, summers, etc. The summers sound is even better with a flanger or really pronounced phase and my Boss HR-2 set just to add a detuned note for a nice chorus/double-tracked effect.
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