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Post by hiftbso on Jun 23, 2006 12:48:54 GMT -7
I was looking into getting a dual true bypass switcher to use with my holy grail and other effects that I like but are not true bypass. I've seen a few differnt ones and wanted to see if any of you guys use them and if so what brand? This one from Loop-Master looks pretty good, any thoughts? www.loop-master.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=87
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Post by Telemanic on Jun 23, 2006 14:33:38 GMT -7
How ya doin, the pedal looks pretty good, well made, and simple. It should be pretty transparent, wich is the ultimate criteria for me. I wrestle with such things as this,.... i cannot stand more than a couple of pedals in my signal chain, ... even tru by-pass,... in spite of the by-pass i can hear and kinda feel the difference, (nothing like straight in to the amp or maybe one pedal!!!) And even the loop box itself is like plugging into ANOTHER tru by-pass pedal! So my point is, that it all starts to add up. The next logical path would be to incorporate a buffer so as to eliminate the loading loss of many pedals boxes etc. But buffers convert your guitars native high impedance to low, and to my ear the sound and feel suffer greatly along with how the amp reacts with most buffers, the feel can be brittle with this weird high sheen to your tone. Of course some peoples rigs and styles will tolerate mildly processed sounds without issues,.. but i cannot. I recently got a Switchbone amp switcher from radial tonebone, it works much like a loop selector only for the amps. Their Loopbone has a buffer for no signal loss, BUT.... they incorporate a "drag" control to adjust the impedance to basicaly re-match it to the amps input, theoreticaly eliminating the weird feel and sound from the buffer while allowing you to go thru many pedals with out losing signal. So far it sounds good, I can still hear the difference from plugging straight in to the amp, but to be fair, i have not yet had the time to experiment with the drag control. I will see if i can dial it in to my liking,... sadly i'm really anal about this, and i hope it works as advertised, I'll let you know. Otherwise i'm goin back to a passive unit like the one you posted. FYI, fulltone is coming out with his version of a loop selector, and it will be passive as well, with some cool features. Peace, Lou
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Post by Telemanic on Jun 23, 2006 14:37:50 GMT -7
P.S. the loopbone has some additional features and capabilities that may make it worth looking at. It is subtantially more $ tho.
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Post by dave19er on Jun 25, 2006 12:07:36 GMT -7
I was looking for exactly what you are (for the same reason - a bunch of pedals, very few of which are true bypass), and had a helluva time finding exactly what I was looking for. My father is a mechanical/electrical engineer, so I told him what I wanted, and he designed me a circuit that would do exactly what I wanted. Then I bought the parts (including Fulltone true bypass switches) and soldered it all up. Works extremely well (we were a little worried that there'd be popping when switching, but there isn't) and does exactly what I wanted (Direct to amp, channel A, channel B, Channels A+B). The one you've linked to looks to do the same thing.
If you're interested (and good with a soldering iron), I could email you the wiring diagram. I think my total outlay was around $60 or so (and about three hours to put it all together). A large chunk of that was purchasing the Fulltone brand switches and an enameled box - you could get much cheaper and save $30 or so.
Probably would have been easier to just buy one, but I enjoy building stuff like that anyway...
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Post by jzguitar on Jun 25, 2006 21:52:13 GMT -7
Hi
I have a LoopMaster box and it works fine. I also have a couple of Loooper boxes that are great. The Loooper website has more options as far as colors and custom work, but they are both quality products.
jz
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Post by proline1 on Jun 28, 2006 2:32:21 GMT -7
Howdy! If I understand your question correctly I think the Keeley ByPass Looper would be perfect! Very small in size and totally transparent. I use mine to peel off vibe/chorus/delay etc. when not utilized. I think I paid $69 for it. Check out they're web site. Regards, Jim
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Post by hiftbso on Jun 28, 2006 13:00:05 GMT -7
Yeah, the Keeley was the first one I looked at but I want 2 loops, one for the holy grail and one for the chorus, delay and trem. I thought about using just one for all four of them but I use the reverb like 40-50% of the time and I only use those others like maybe 10% of the time so I thought it would be nice to have the reverb without the others. Plus the Loopmaster dual looper is only $58, thats less than one of the Keeleys. I plan on ordering one soon but they have so many different pedals and options I am having a hard time making up my mind on the exact one I want.
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