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Post by propellr on Apr 28, 2006 11:00:25 GMT -7
Looking for another tuner for use with a new-to-me bass guitar coming my way today via UPS. The bass will likely be used independently of my guitar, thus the need for a second tuner. I have a Sabine NetFX 5000 currently, which I store in my cable bag (it is too big to fit in my guitar case, darnit). I would like a tuner that will fit in the G&G tweed case that comes with this bass, mostly because I don't want to get somewhere and to have forgotten a tuner. For that reason, I was looking at one of those Korg models that clip to your headstock, but that thing isn't backlit at all, so no good for low light situation. As far as the Sabine is concerned, I dig the solid construction and the true bypass that the Sabine offers, but it's not useful at all in a situation with lots of light.
I know we've talked about tuners before, here on the forum. Raves about the Strobostomp were numerous. I would use the DI on the Strobostomp to plug the bass into the board, but I think it is way too smart for me. I won't need alternate tunings or even the chromatic tuning capability or any of that. I wince at the $190 pricetag, too.
Need tuner with the following specs:
True bypass Battery operated Footswitch mute Sturdy construction Readable in low light or sun
Boss TU-2? Sabine NetFX 5000? Peterson Strobostomp? Others?
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Post by prowler on Apr 28, 2006 11:19:56 GMT -7
The only real true bypass tuner on the market is the Strobostomp. That being said, you can use an A/B box with any other pedal style tuner. I use the Korg DT-10 & run it via a Lehle A/B switcher.
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Post by LeftyLang on Apr 28, 2006 11:51:02 GMT -7
I use the Korg DT10 as well...great tuner! I A/b switch it as well, but I have run it straight to my amp and did not notice any tone suck.
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Post by billyguitar on Apr 28, 2006 12:20:41 GMT -7
I like the Strobostomp because you can see it so well in daylight. I play 5 or 6 outdoor giigs a summer and hate trying to tune with an LED tuner. I once tuned completely to F. We counted the first tune off, played one note. The keyboard player stopped the tune until I retuned. No more LED only tuners. I don't know if they still make it but the Danomatic has a meter that is backlit when you use a power supply with it. I prefer the Strobostomp, bigger disply. It will also let you daisy chain power to other pedals and the DI would be handy for a bass or electric flat top. Might be too think to go in the case?
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Post by propellr on Apr 28, 2006 20:05:58 GMT -7
Yeah, I'm going to have to sacrifice the notion that anything stageworthy will fit in the case. The bass was on the porch when I got home this evening. I'll have to post some pix.
The tax man just sent us some scratch, so I'll probably go with a Strobostomp. Fool thing is ugly, though. Oversized Hot Wheels-looking thing. Like a durn dune buggy.
No dice on the A/B switch for me. I'm like BW in that my Sabine is the only pedal I'm running with my rig. Let it suck my tone. Better than my tone, sucking.
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Post by taswegian on Apr 28, 2006 21:28:19 GMT -7
My Boss TU-12 has just given up the ghost after 18 years hard labour so I guess I'm in line for a new tuner too. Man that's the last thing I want to spend money on. I do alot of solo accoustic guitar stuff so the Strobostomp might be handy. I can think of at least 10 other pedals I'd rather buy right now! I guess I can't complain...and I can vouch for the durability of the TU-12!! ;D
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Post by Telemanic on Apr 29, 2006 10:46:15 GMT -7
Yeah, i gotta vote for the peterson strobo, i have gone thru so many tuners, but have never been so happy with one. Short of an actual strobe, the strobo is sooo accurate. I can tune with a boss or korg, and then go into my VS 1, and see the difference immediately. I just use the vs sitting back on my amp or somewhere. I whack-em pretty hard, but find i normaly only have to tune between sets, so i havent needed the stomp version. I'm really particular about streching my strings in well, so i wont have any pitch issues. Its funny, i bend alot and deep, and just dont have tuning issues ( and i'm really anal about my intonation) yet i see so many bands where the guitar player seems to be constantly fiddling and tuning? probably not strechin em in enough prior. Oh well, i digress.....Get the peterson it's awesome!
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Post by billyguitar on Apr 29, 2006 12:56:05 GMT -7
You're right about tuning. If the strings are stretched right, if the nut doesn't catch and if there's nothing wrong with the bridge all guitars hold their tuning pretty good. I've seen guys that think it's their tuners. I know it's not. I've got all kinds of guitars and only one had bad tuners and it is a prewar Rickenbacker that's been played VERY hard. Those tuners were actually worn out but that's the only one. Another thing that's crazy is guys that break strings every set. I don't know how they do that. I guess they play too hard. If they turned off the distortion and heard how bad they sound by picking too hard they'd probably lighten up their touch. One of the coolest sounds there is is when you've got the amp too loud and you pick very softly to keep it down. My adrenaline won't let me do that on a gig but it sounds great. Sorry about getting off-thread!
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Post by taswegian on May 4, 2006 8:05:08 GMT -7
One of my best friends, who just happens to be one of the best jazz players in Australia, used my Route 66 and Z Best for a jazz gig in a very small club once. He had the volume at 3 oclock the bass around 12 and the treble around 9-10. I couldn't believe it when I walked in and saw that setting, but as it was jazz he played with a very light touch and I agree Billy, it was a beautiful sound. Then when he did a "stab" it just went WHOMP and got your attention. People were sitting literally 10 feet from my ZBest and it never got uncomfortable. With humbuckers and a heavy right hand you could blow those people out into the street at that level! ;D
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Post by John on May 4, 2006 8:30:14 GMT -7
I've never felt the need to keep a tuner in with my pedals.
I use new strings every gig.
My golden rule: Put the new strings on either the night before, or first thing in the morning for that night's gig. They need to stretch. It's my opinion that some players who put strings on right before the gig are getting what they deserve. They think having a tuner on their pedal board is going to save them. Personally, I think a guitar player tuning after every song is kind of cheezy and amature-ish. Besides, it looks bad too. Also, you may not have TIME to tune. I've played lots of wedding and corporate gigs, and you've got to start the next song IMMEDIATELY! Seriously...about two seconds (or less) inbetween songs. If you go any longer, the dance floor will loose a large percentage for every second you go past about three to four seconds.
Even in bars, if you've got a full dance floor, the same thing will happen.
I tune up before the start of each set. If I think the guitar has gone out of tune, I will...while playing...try to identify what string is bad. I either find a gap in a song to turn the peg, or I can usually adjust my playing to avoid that string.
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Post by taswegian on May 4, 2006 9:05:57 GMT -7
I don't keep a pedal in line for my band gigs either. The tuning on the Grosh is very stable. I just check it in between sets. But for accoustic solo gigs, I use Nashville tuning, Drop D tuning and Open tuning as well as standard tuning so I'm betting the Strobostomp is the way to go as I can DI the accoustic and mute it inbetween songs.
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Post by propellr on May 5, 2006 8:30:46 GMT -7
Well, gents, I took the hook on the Strobostomp. Pretty shrewdly handled, too. Checked Sam Ash one night recently after looking to see a Korg model tuner they had that GC didn't carry. Checked the price at $189 and told them I'd like to think about it a while. I was in GC Monday to pick up my acoustic from having the frets dressed and asked them about one. Since they were out of stock, I told them I could walk next door to Sam Ash or...? and they knocked $ off to get one from a different GC (PDQ). Good. I don't buy from Sam arse unless I have to. Oops. did I spell that right? Guess what? It fits in the bass case nicely! Ahh, the simple pleasures!
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