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Post by hdahs143 on Mar 28, 2006 16:29:31 GMT -7
Has anyone done any objective comparisons of these guys work. It's hard to come to any conclusions from Harmony Central because with rare exception, everyone is gushing about the one that they doled out some cash for.
I've got a Keeley compressor, and should be getting my Boss BD-2 Phat Mod back tomorrow (can't wait! ;D). But I'm also interested in some of the other guys work and doing some mods myself.
Any thoughts?
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 28, 2006 16:58:33 GMT -7
I don't how any of the other DIY's compare to the Keeley or Aman mods but I'm really liking the BYOC Screamer Clone I just built. It's just got more balls the my Keeley TS-9 and I used to swear by that thing. Maybe it's comparing apples & oranges. Maybe you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear... hell I dunno..
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Post by real oldster on Mar 28, 2006 19:24:17 GMT -7
Don't you hate it when you ask an A or B question and somebody answers C? Because I've recently taken an interest in the work of Chad Matthews @ www.cmatmods.com. Sorry, ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 19:44:28 GMT -7
I have the Analogman Maxon OD-9/808/silver/kws and until I got the MJM blues devil I thought it was great. Compared to a regular tube screamer it definitely has more bass and some highs and a little less of a mid hump. There was also more clarity and definition. Now when I got the MJM Blues Devil it was like the Analogman was muffled compared to the MJM. I don't know why but the MJM also feels more like the way an amp responds. They are both inherently TS-808's but the MJM just had more. I feel for the price $165 it can't be beat, especially for a hand made, hand wired pedal. Unfortunately I have not tried the Keeley but from what I gathered from JChance's clips I liked the Blues Driver a lot more. The Blues Driver compared to the TS-9 reminded me of the way the Blues Devil compared to the Analogman. Anyway I hope this ramble helps in some way. I have much respect for the guys who build their own pedals. I think it is cool and they must learn a lot my doing that. I wish I could customize and tweak my own pedals.
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Post by Curt on Mar 28, 2006 21:26:37 GMT -7
Can't do a comparo for you, but I do have two Kelley baked pedals, BD-2/phat and TS-9.
I've used and loved the BD-2, likes any amp and I've taken the gain down and used it as a clean boost, and I've cranked the gain and ran it into a clean amp for skynyrd/Allman Bro.s
I've never really warmed up to the TS-9, hate it with the Ghia, like it "OK" with the Z/28, and I've set it up from 0 gain to Max gain, I can definately live without the TS-9. YMMV and probably will, If you want a used one drop me a note. Curt
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Post by southpawtone on Mar 28, 2006 23:25:33 GMT -7
Well, i purchased a Keeley Katana Boost a couple weeks ago. It was an extremely transparent sounding pedal with a cool extra boost feature when you pulled the side mounted speed knob. Unfortunetly, my amp didnt seem to like it much when cranked. I have a Bad Cat CubII that i am currently using.......BUT i will be trading it in for a Maz38NR 2X12 within a couple weeks. The tone controls on the BadCat are active tone controls.......so im pretty sure that's why it didnt mesh well with the Katana Boost. Anyway.......i havent owned any Analogman stuff.........i did try the Sun Dial Fuzz of theirs.....and i thought it sounded horrible. Again though, i was playing it through an amp with active tone controls. As far as modding TS9's and 808's etc.......from what i've read, it seems Keeley does more to improve the sound of these pedals, while Analogman supposedly just tweaks Bass response, etc..........also, Keeley puts in the real deal NOS Malaysian RC4558P chip in his modded 808's that were made by Texas Instruments back in the day. Apparently for some, that is the ultimate sounding chip as it is thought to have a slightly gritter tone than the JRC4558D. Also, Keeley's customer service is outstanding. Anyway, i've babbled on long enough. In the end, tone is completely subjective.
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Post by bduguay on Mar 29, 2006 8:05:50 GMT -7
"In the end, tone is completely subjective." From one new member to another, I couldn't agree more. B.
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Post by nick on Mar 31, 2006 7:23:14 GMT -7
I've got a Keeley BD-2 and an Analogman SD-1. I love the BD2. I used to love the SD-1, but lately it hasn't been doing it for me. I think my ears want something different. There's nothing wrong with the pedal, and Mike Piera is an incredible guy who does awesome work and looks out for his customers. Not having played both extensively, I do think that the Keeley TS/SD/whatever is going to have a little more bark to it. I think it's just a bit more aggressive than the AM.
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Post by Lefty on Mar 31, 2006 8:03:55 GMT -7
I've got and had boxes from both sides of the camp.
Analogman
Have-NKT Sunface-Clone Chorus-DS-1 Pro Had-Std Fuzz-KOT-SD-9 and tried the Beano
Keeley Have-Compressor-A/B/loop box Had-BD-2 Phat-Baked TS-9
I generally rule on the AM side of things. AM doesn't change the tone of a pedal just enhances it, whereas Keeley goes a little bit more radical.
On a side note, I have a TS808 that I modded (found some old Keeley notes). All I changed was the gain (input resistors), the bass cap, and put in a socket with a TI 4558. I tell you what, it really kicks butt everytime I go for it. It didn't change the overall tone just gave it more depth and life. I honestly think it could change some minds about the 808.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Mar 31, 2006 15:10:20 GMT -7
Lefty, Why did you get rid of the KOT? Was it just not for you?
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Post by terryg on Mar 31, 2006 18:43:55 GMT -7
Indeed, I've been wondering about this as well, merely because I've been on the list since Daniel was in the lion's den....
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Post by billyguitar on Mar 31, 2006 19:11:37 GMT -7
I'm on the KOT list since July '04. How long for you Terry?
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Post by terryg on Mar 31, 2006 19:21:28 GMT -7
Yeah, I think it's been about that long, actually. Just checked some old emails to Mike P - July '04!
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Post by billyguitar on Mar 31, 2006 19:33:06 GMT -7
He told me on March 11th that mine was about ready. No word yet!
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Post by terryg on Mar 31, 2006 22:28:58 GMT -7
wow! that's cool! I'd better find my wallet....
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Apr 4, 2006 8:24:24 GMT -7
I guess I'll chime back in. I got a Keeley comp the other day, so I can now compare it to the Analogman CompROSSor that I've had for a few years. I never thought I'd say this, but the Keeley wins. The top end is better and the dynamics are preserved even more than on the Analogman, if you know what I mean (we are talking about dynamic range limiting devices, after all). It is very "transparent" for a compressor. I'm generally an "Analogman" guy (I have all his pedals) but I really dig the Keeley comp. No wonder people like Jayson Chance are using them. I've got one of the first KOT's; I was just wondering what Lefty didn't like about his. I think it's a pretty "amplike" pedal, but I prefer the Xotic RC Booster for my Z's.
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Post by Lefty on Apr 4, 2006 9:35:19 GMT -7
The KOT IS a very cool box, but I thought it sounded better with BF Fender amps. And mine was built into a bigger box...and for what they were going for at the time and still are, I couldn't just let it sit around not being used...I ended up getting about 400.00 bucks for mine on Ebay.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Apr 5, 2006 4:04:10 GMT -7
Lefty, That makes sense. Mike developed that pedal with Jim Weider using a Deluxe Reverb. My wife had better not find out about how much they're going for on Ebay! I got one of the first Nintendo 64's when they first came out and were very hot around Christmas. I kept it (I bought it to play it, after all!) but my wife still gives me crap for not selling it for a profit when I had the chance.
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