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Post by Lefty on Mar 25, 2006 10:14:11 GMT -7
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Post by travsbluz on Mar 25, 2006 13:58:43 GMT -7
Hey Lefty, It looks real nice. Very clean solder work, also. I like it.
Is that the kit from Build Your Own Clone? If it is, how did you set it up?(with or without the mid hump? Which gain structure?)
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Post by Lefty on Mar 25, 2006 14:35:26 GMT -7
Yea it's from BYOC. I used the larger cap for no mid hump, and the Asymetrical clipping. Actually only two clipping diodes. And I used a 4559 opamp. I used sockets for the diodes in the clipping section for easy experimenting.
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 25, 2006 15:18:41 GMT -7
Lefty, I just finsihed mine the other night.....and as I predicted I f**ked it up.. It looks like all my solder joints are good but it won't turn on!! Any ideas? Help! Yours looks a HELL of a lot cleaner on the inside than mine too
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Post by Lefty on Mar 25, 2006 16:34:25 GMT -7
Hard to say without seeing it. Try posting some pics of you can. You might also get a magnifying glass and look for any stray solder, wires etc.
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 25, 2006 16:45:31 GMT -7
Thanks Lefty, well... I just plugged it into the Goblin (..waiting on my Ghia to get here) and oddly enough it friggin works! I'm still not getting any juice to the LED though (I guess before I figured no LED, no workie...). Anyhow, it might be because I actually wired my LED on the other side of the board. Ya think? I'll switch it to the other side and see if it comes on this time. Otherwise, I'll post pics and you guys can witness the glory of my soldering skills... HAH! Man, this thing sounds GREAT! It's definitely got a little more mojo than my Keeley TS9.
johnny
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Post by travsbluz on Mar 25, 2006 18:19:57 GMT -7
Hey Lefty, could I possibly talk you into a closer picture of the circuit board? Thanks
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Post by Lefty on Mar 25, 2006 18:41:25 GMT -7
I'll see what I can do.
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Post by Tom the Guitar Guy on Mar 25, 2006 18:48:04 GMT -7
The BYOC stuff is pretty dang good. I've built a couple for some friends as well as a treble booster for myself.
I've actually ordered a pre-built Chorus (w/ Vibrato toggle) to go on my board. I really like the stuff these guys do.
Nice to have quality amps and quality pedals.
tomtheguitarguy
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 26, 2006 5:52:51 GMT -7
Take Me To Your Leader.....
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Post by Tom the Guitar Guy on Mar 26, 2006 10:14:59 GMT -7
Oh, and btw - nice job Lefty!
and you too johnnyl !
tomtheguitarguy
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 26, 2006 16:12:55 GMT -7
Thanks Tom, yep.. I rewired mine after seeing how nice yours was wired up Lefty. I actually had the whole board upside down before.. oops. I did manage to find some different colored LED's at Radio Shack though. Pretty cool...
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Post by Lefty on Mar 26, 2006 18:05:28 GMT -7
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 27, 2006 0:06:12 GMT -7
uhhh... one small problem.. I think I bought an LED that is on when the effect is off. Any ideas on this Lefty? It sounds great though! Bumped the Keeley off the board...
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Post by Lefty on Mar 27, 2006 5:52:53 GMT -7
That shouldn't make any difference, it's the same premice as a light bulb (power on.light on-power off/ light off). Sounds like you have the switch wired funny.
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Post by real oldster on Mar 27, 2006 8:50:04 GMT -7
Unpainted. Blue LED. White knobs.
That's one way cool looking pedal.
;D
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Post by terryg on Mar 27, 2006 13:43:43 GMT -7
Amigos, those are some killer builds. I finally did my BYOC tremolo...and it worked! Alas, I seem to have built in some noise, so I'll be unbuilding it to attempt slick wiring like yours are looking. Little more patience, little less beer....
I'm off to get the phaser kit, too! Since it has only 1 knob I think I'll be able to tell them apart ;D
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 27, 2006 14:00:15 GMT -7
terry, how's the tremolo sound bud?
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Post by terryg on Mar 27, 2006 14:04:25 GMT -7
sounds kinda like "wauzzzwauszzzzzzzwzzzwauszzzz"
I developed that sound after I crammed everything into the box with wild abandon....I blame me, and not anyone or anything else. I have no complaints, the fact that I got through the project and it worked great "on the bench" was a huge huge affirmation of my [in]capabilities.
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Post by Lefty on Mar 27, 2006 14:52:17 GMT -7
When it comes to electronics, I'm very "an@l" about the wiring. I like it clean and neat as possible, it makes it A LOT easier to trouble shoot if needed. And with clean wiring, solder, and layout=less problems of it not working out of the box. I've seen some amps that I wonder how they can even work with the rats nest of wire that is in them. If anyone needs some help trouble shooting the BYOC pedals after the build let me know, I'd be more than happy to check em out for you.
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 27, 2006 16:21:04 GMT -7
HA!! That's funny stuff Terry. Don't feel bad, my LED comes on when the effect is off I think I also got solder in the tone pot too becuase it doesn't work either. I'm still amazed at the sound though - at least I accomplished that much.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Mar 28, 2006 8:38:23 GMT -7
Lefty -- your screamer looks KILLER man! VERY nice job on the wiring AND external cosmetics. johnnyl - you did a very nice job as well! I've certainly seen WAY worse wiring (ahem, see the rat's nest wiring of my triboost for example ). Here's a few pics of a BYOC trem I finished a short time ago: The wiring on this one turned out considerably cleaner/neater than my first build, the triboost. I polished/buffed the case using a dremel tool and buffing compounds -- I think this pic makes the finish look nicer than it really is... Note the 'toneczar-inspired' knob setup for toe-adjustability: Right now I'm working on the AD3208 analog delay project from generalguitargadgets.com -- I ordered all the parts off of the bill of materials (from ggg.com) through smallbearelec.com, and it took about 2 hours to put the whole order together. If anyone else is interested in that analog delay project, let me know and we can check with small bear to see if they can place you order off of my invoice to save you the time of entering the whole shebang manually. Oh, and for anyone considering the AD-3208, I STRONGLY suggest using a case that's LARGER than the suggested 'BB' size -- it is WAY too tight of a fit to get everything in there, and it literally took me almost 3 hours to plan out and drill the enclosure to make sure there were no space conflicts using the MTDO method (measure twice, drill once)... Actually, it was more like measure 10 times, drill once. The biggest conflict is getting the jacks to fit between the pc board and the case... I ordered the pre-made board from generalguitargadgets rather than etching my own. OK, I'll stop rambling in my traditional fashion now... In closing, I want to say that it's VERY cool that there are a few DIY'ers on the Z forum now!
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Post by terryg on Mar 28, 2006 10:20:37 GMT -7
HA!! That's funny stuff Terry. Don't feel bad, my LED comes on when the effect is off I think I also got solder in the tone pot too becuase it doesn't work either. I'm still amazed at the sound though - at least I accomplished that much. and "take me to your leader, I'm a one-green-eyed freak that lights up when I'm off" is pretty funny too ;D My sentiments exactly. This little project marks the first time I've soldered past pickups and speaker terminals! Victory! Hey, I just got a note saying my phaser kit will be here in 3 days. That's cool. I hope the weather sucks this weekend. NO, that's not true!
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Post by johnnyl on Mar 28, 2006 11:46:33 GMT -7
HA! Let us know how the phaser sounds terry. I'm thinking of trying the trem next.
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Post by travsbluz on Mar 28, 2006 15:49:25 GMT -7
Hey Lefty, I was wondering what one could expect from changing the op-amps? I was just on the Barber Electronics site and they were talking about a few different ones you could change to and tweak the pedal, but I wasn't sure exactly what would be changed.
They also talked about "stacking" them (op-amps) for a nice effect. They called it "muscular" sounding.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by Lefty on Mar 28, 2006 16:49:58 GMT -7
Some pedals have more of a tonal change with the opamp, some do not. The Screamer clone doesn't change all that much with the change. I think the 4559 had a little more "depth" to it than the standard 4558. I've had some of the Barber pedals and they do take to this very well. For instance the 4558 and 4559 not so much change, but if you put in a TL072 lends to a more "hi fi" sound with less mids, more highs and bass. David Barber sent me several stacked opamps way back when and yes there is some change. I like the Direct Drive but it always had somewhat of an artificial over tone to it. Not any old 8 pin opamp will work but some "brands" have different tonal affect depending on the circuit. Texas Instruments 4558 is the alleged original 808 opamp, I have one of these in my 808. The 4559 is used in the TS-9.
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Post by terryg on Mar 29, 2006 9:08:14 GMT -7
HA! Let us know how the phaser sounds terry. I'm thinking of trying the trem next. but of course!
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Post by raja on Mar 29, 2006 19:40:34 GMT -7
Lefty, your new camera sure takes a nice picture. How about some sound clips of the new pedal!!
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Post by LeftyLang on Mar 29, 2006 21:29:57 GMT -7
Yes Lefty...clips please....Nice looking pedal by the way...
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Post by Lefty on Mar 29, 2006 21:37:11 GMT -7
I'm off Friday, I'll see what I can do.
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