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Post by StrangeC on Mar 5, 2006 16:23:07 GMT -7
I've used a Line 6 DL4 and MM4 for a while now and have liked them (even better since Keeley worked on them). I find them to be good live and cover a lot of ground in a compact package with true bypass (and for reasonable $ vs buying the real deals). Since one would hardly call them boutique, vingage, or exclusive, I was somewhat surprised to see Brad Paisley using Line 6 in his live rig according to Vintage Guitar Magazine. Was anyone else, or just me?
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Mar 6, 2006 13:02:25 GMT -7
If it sounds good, it IS good! Perhaps he uses a setting in there that you can't get with any other box? Ducking delays...? Reverse? Who knows...
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Post by nickg on Mar 6, 2006 15:27:59 GMT -7
Well isn't it the echo pro and modulation pro rack effects rather than the stompbox pedals? That's what it says on his website. Are the rack effects more boutique? It seems that brad has the bases covered for great "normal" delay sounds with his boss dd-2 and the way huge aqua puss analog delay (certainly a boutique, exclusive item!), so I'd guess he wouldn't use the line 6 for those kind of delay sounds, like peach says he probably uses it for more weird sounds like reverse delay and so on... Might be something to ask zac. Nick
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Mar 7, 2006 9:05:53 GMT -7
The real turn off for the big green Line 6 delay box IMO opinion is that your ENTIRE signal gets converted to digital... so even your dry signal gets processed...
I'm 99% certain that with the smaller tonecore pedals, that those pedals ONLY convert the wet part of your signal to digital, and let the dry signal pass through as analog without converting it... For that reason, unless you're going to use the big green Line 6 delay for special effects (as opposed to a mild slapback delay), I think there are better choices out there...
Incidentally, the tonecore pedals were also developed in part by Jeorge Tripps from Way Huge... That's a pretty ringing endorsement IMO. If you're going to go Line 6, the echopark might be a better choice if you don't need a ton of versatility... Or maybe even consider using 2 or 3 separate delay boxes for different sounds/settings...
Such as the Boss DD-2 which is THE most analog sounding digital delay out there in my experience -- this was a transitional pedal for Boss, and pre-dates the tonally inferiror (in my opinion) DD-3 and DD-5... it even self-oscillates. Or if you want analog the Boss DM-2 or DM-3 that the Way Huge is based on.
I'm re-discovering just how good some of the older Made in Japan Boss pedals actually are... There are some GREAT tones in these old boxes, and they are BOMBPROOF!
I just picked up an older made in Japan Boss RV-2 digital reverb, and the tone of this pedal is superior to the RV-3 for my tastes... The EQ control on the older RV-2 is ESSENTIAL. I just opened my RV-2 up last night to take a look at the guts, and it is an engineering marvel how they crammed as much as they did into these little boxes... holy parts density Batman, and with some great tonal end results to boot!
They are very well made. I don't even see how a small boutique pedal maker could compete with something like this pedal, which is probably why there aren't many (or any) boutique reverb pedals out there.
I guess I'm rambling again, but getting into these old Boss pedals has me very excited again. Best part is, you can score something like an RV-2 on eBay for less than $100.
Sorry, I'm rambling slightly off topic a bit, so to take it back to somewhat relevant, it will be interesting to see how the RV-2 compares to the Line 6 Verbzilla when that gets here on Friday...
I think some of the older mass produced pedals, like the Boss in particular, really have some great tones in them, but they get overlooked in favor of the sexier boutique stuff... I know I have overlooked them for quite a while, and it's really fun to 'discover' them all over again.
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Post by nickg on Mar 7, 2006 10:06:11 GMT -7
Such as the Boss DD-2 which is THE most analog sounding digital delay out there in my experience -- this was a transitional pedal for Boss, and pre-dates the tonally inferiror (in my opinion) DD-3 and DD-5... it even self-oscillates. Or if you want analog the Boss DM-2 or DM-3 that the Way Huge is based on. I'm re-discovering just how good some of the older Made in Japan Boss pedals actually are... There are some GREAT tones in these old boxes, and they are BOMBPROOF! I just picked up an older made in Japan Boss RV-2 digital reverb, and the tone of this pedal is superior to the RV-3 for my tastes... The EQ control on the older RV-2 is ESSENTIAL. I just opened my RV-2 up last night to take a look at the guts, and it is an engineering marvel how they crammed as much as they did into these little boxes... holy parts density Batman, and with some great tonal end results to boot! They are very well made. I don't even see how a small boutique pedal maker could compete with something like this pedal, which is probably why there aren't many (or any) boutique reverb pedals out there. I guess I'm rambling again, but getting into these old Boss pedals has me very excited again. Best part is, you can score something like an RV-2 on eBay for less than $100. Sorry, I'm rambling slightly off topic a bit, so to take it back to somewhat relevant, it will be interesting to see how the RV-2 compares to the Line 6 Verbzilla when that gets here on Friday... I think some of the older mass produced pedals, like the Boss in particular, really have some great tones in them, but they get overlooked in favor of the sexier boutique stuff... I know I have overlooked them for quite a while, and it's really fun to 'discover' them all over again. Yeah! Very true. Just bought a dm-3 off a guy on this forum and it's amazing.
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