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Post by iggs on Mar 2, 2006 11:54:06 GMT -7
That is the question now ...
Thinking about getting the Axxess Electronics BS2 buffer, just wondering what ya'll think about buffers in general ... or that particular one. All my pedals, other then the Boss NS-2 are true bypass and I run loooong cables ... 20ft from guitar and 15ft to the amp + pedalboard (6ft total?).
Was also looking into the VHT valvulator but 1) no space on the pedalboard, 2) don't really need the xtra power suply ... got the SKB-PS45.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Mar 2, 2006 12:21:22 GMT -7
iggs -- it's already all good for you man! If you've got a Boss pedal on your board already, you've already got a fine, well designed buffer in place!
I think it's a good idea to buffer if you use any more than 2-3 pedals, and/or a combined length of cable totalling 20 ft or more. Obviously that's not a hard fast rule, but that's the rule of thumb I follow.
I also think there's a lot of hype out there over bypass types, and the impact that it has on your tone. Yes, everything in your signal path affects your tone in some way, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing! There are some notable exceptions - for example, wah's are well-known notorious bypass'd tone suckers!
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Post by iggs on Mar 2, 2006 12:25:37 GMT -7
Thanks for that ... would it be of ANY benefit having an extra buffer like the BS-2 AFTER all the pedals?
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Post by prowler on Mar 2, 2006 13:10:53 GMT -7
I use the Axess BS2. It's a great buffer. I run it before anything else. Many times I plug my guitar diectly into the BS2 & then the BS2 right into my amp. I like how to tightens up the bass and smooths out the high end response. You wont really gain anything from running the BS2 atthe end of your pedalboard.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 2, 2006 20:52:31 GMT -7
If you end up getting this buffer I'd be interested in your findings. I have a BUNCH of pedals here and virtually all of them that have buffers muck up my tone so that I won't use them. Especially the Boss pedals! I've got to where I won't buy a stomp box unless it is true bypass - not because that's the "right" thing to do, but because I've been able to minimize the losses in cabling etc and have a good sound. So far, the only buffer that hasn't completely mangled my tone is the one in my Radial JX-2 - oh, it changes the tone slightly, but not nearly as much as that DD-20 I have. I can't even use that DD-20 it's so bad.
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Post by guitarman1 on Mar 3, 2006 7:44:53 GMT -7
I'm assuming you want a buffer to re-gain tone loss. I go through 4 true bypass pedals and have just found a pretty good solution. I have a guitar > 15' Klotz cable > pedal board with George L patch cables > 15' George L > amp. I compared this sound with all pedals off to Guitar> 15' Canare/Neutrik cable > amp. The pedal board sound is very close (not perfect) to plugging directly into the amp.
I think it has to do with the Klotz & George Ls having very low capacitance. Both of these cables are too bright for me going direct, but really help retain high end & punch with pedals. I think replacing the Klotz with a much cheaper George L would have similar results. Two 15' or 20' George Ls would run you about $60.00 and you could easily sell them if they don't help out. I'd try this before dropping $$$ on a buffer.
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Post by iggs on Mar 3, 2006 7:46:39 GMT -7
Thanks guitarman1 ... waaaay ahead of you .... I run George L's for everything ... guitar to pb, pb wiring, pb to amp. Love them George L's.
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Post by guitarman1 on Mar 3, 2006 14:45:31 GMT -7
Thanks guitarman1 ... waaaay ahead of you .... I run George L's for everything ... guitar to pb, pb wiring, pb to amp. Love them George L's. Great iggs! Didn't mean to preach to the choir. I just found this combination Tuesday night and I've been dieing to tell somebody.
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Post by taswegian on Mar 3, 2006 14:58:35 GMT -7
I patched my pedals together with fender patch leads and one by one they are all going down The guy in the shop had a quiet word to me and said he had one go down after a week and thought they might be crap but I thought he must have just got a dud. Mmmm, must look into some decent patch leads.
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Post by rodeoclown on Mar 3, 2006 15:47:52 GMT -7
All my pedals are true bypass with the exception of my Boss TU-2 tuner and a Boss NS-2. I run the tuner through a Loop-Master true bypass unit. Brian at Loop-Master told me that if I left the NS-2 on all the time, which I do, I didn't need a true bypass with it. And I don't care what anyone says - there is a noticeable loss of tone, especially highs, if I don't bypass the tuner.
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